Unfair and biased journalism ; don't you think it's time we interview Saddam ?

[mcalpine]

Don't you think it's time that the world had an opportunity to interview
Saddam Hussein ? With all the spotlight being focused on G.W. Bush and all of his cronies, it's sickening how often we have to listen to his lies and deceptions every single day.

Journalist creed: http://www.mdn.org/jschool/creed.htm

Since the BBC debacle so much has happen to the news. We hear less and less about what's going on in the world. We turn on our T.V.'s and watch a guy like Barry Bonds get lambasted by the media over steriods. In addition, we see people in government like U.S. Senator John McCain flex his political muscle in a sport so many American love, like we want to mix politics with our sports. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...2-2004Dec3.html

The media spends more time dehumanizing people and less time reporting just good Ole' news. I remember during the Monica BlewClinsky scandal when Clinton was being impeached. The news was relentless about ever single detail in Clintons sex life. Never have I learned the details of another mans sex life than that of Bill Clinton's. I was mortified. To simply put it, I was ashamed at how low our media would stoop just to dehumanize someone with such character.

I remember during th hippie-era when Charles Manson was glorified for his murder of celebrities. News was news back then, I think...Now, no one cares anymore about sensational crime all the media wants to do is destroy good people like Bill Clinton was !

I would love for the media to interview Saddam Hussein ! That would be great, wouldn't it ?

[Kumachan]

I'd actually be interested in seeing that just to hear his side of things. Of course, I wouldn't believe it any more than I believe the current administration and their "War on Terror".

They went after Saddam because they knew where he was, knew they could get him and knew that he didn't stand a chance in stopping them.

Oh sure, I don't doubt for a moment he's bad guy and that he's done horrible & nasty things but he posed no direct threat to the US which means they had no reason to go in there.

[Mr Alien]

I would love for the media to interview Saddam Hussein ! That would be great, wouldn't it ?

It would be great.
I hate it when the news tells me what to think and doesn't allow me to hear both sides and let me think for myself.
I think Japanese news is worse than other countries.

[Kumachan]

Put Mcalpine and Kumachan in charge of the world's media and it's sure to be the most neutral and unbiased haven of truth and objective observation.

Excuse me while I ____ myself.
So which part of it do you beleive and which part is complete bullsh*t? Or are you the type to automagically believe everything the newspapers or newsmakers put out? Sorry, but there is no such thing as unbiased journalism in this world, and anybody that claims otherwise is simply fooling themselves.

You either beleive the party line, or you don't. And there's still no guarantee that either side equals the truth.

D00d, Saddam wasn't a nice guy but he posed no threat to the US. He's like Kim Jong Il, a minor annoyance and no real threat. You wanna believe he was a threat? Go right ahead, but I'm of the opinion he wasn't.

[User Name Deleted]

Taffy,

are you confusing Kumachan with Kimonolover?

McAlpine and Kumachan have been at each others throats ever since I can remember.

[mcalpine]

So which part of it do you beleive and which part is complete bullsh*t? Or are you the type to automagically believe everything the newspapers or newsmakers put out? Sorry, but there is no such thing as unbiased journalism in this world, and anybody that claims otherwise is simply fooling themselves.

You either beleive the party line, or you don't. And there's still no guarantee that either side equals the truth.

D00d, Saddam wasn't a nice guy but he posed no threat to the US. He's like Kim Jong Il, a minor annoyance and no real threat. You wanna believe he was a threat? Go right ahead, but I'm of the opinion he wasn't.

What are you talking about Kumachan ? Saddam was a nice guy just ask Reagan. Okay, he gased a few thousand turks and and some of his own people but that doesn't make him any different then George Herbert Walker Bush in terms of loss of life. George successfully convinced half of America that a terrorist is a person with an identity that can be identified through stereotypes. Not once did he ever mention that a terrorist could be an American e.g.(John Walker Lind and Timothy McVeigh or Terry McNickels).

A terrorist has to be someone from the middle-east specifically Iraq and that Saddam Hussein is the ring-leader and Osama Bin-Laden is the accomplice in it all ! And you know what ? It's working...

So far, 1900 plus American lives have been lost in the war on "Terror" an enemy that can be anybody...it can be your next door neighbor, your co-worker, maybe even the little boy singing Christmas carols who probably has sympathy deep down in his little ticking heart for the terrorist who are only trying to fight the enemy in his own homeland.
Does that mean he's wrong for thinking such thoughts.

The notion of terror is an ideology Kumachan which is based off of fear which preys upon ignorance .

[aha yes]

are you confusing Kumachan with Kimonolover?
Teehee Teeheehee

That's funny. ;)

[JayJay]

Sadam was a complete _______ mind, whoever put him where he was.

And who put Saddam there? Go back in history and the truth is surprising. Funny how mates turn against you (ie another enemy in the war on terror, Mr Goatfaceman.).

Goes all the way back to WW2. The US sold Japan steel and oil only to have it rain back on them in the form of bombs. Doesnt matter so much for the guys getting rich, eh?

[Kumachan]

I'm really sorry Kumachan and McAlpine, I had been drinking too much coffee and I disparaged your good names for no defensible reason.Actually I get that way when I don't drink enough coffee.


Do you also believe that the CIA bombed the Pentagon? and that there were no Jewish people in the WTC?Fark that conspiracy crap. In bringing that stuff up you just prove the point that nobody has monopoly on the truth, and that anybody can spin a story to match anything they feel like.


You'll hear Sadam's version of events when the trial starts proper and we've already had brief insights into his cowardly insanity from the marines who were guarding him at the airport.And yet, the man has charisma. The guards currently guarding him are falling for his charm, almost thinking of him as a surrogate grandfather.


I happen to believe that Iraq was unstable enough to possibly provide a haven for fundamentalist terrorists and therefore a potential threat to the U.S.A.Just about anywhere with anti-American feelings is like that. But the issue is that they tried to link Saddam to Osama and use the WMDs (which were never found and later shown to be false) as a precursor to invasion.

While Saddam might have given haven to terrorists, him and Osama would never have collaborated on anything. Saddam was considered a progressive Muslim (almost a liberal) and Osama is very much a fundamentalist. In other words, to Osama's eyes, Saddam was almost as bad as the Americans.


If you want to protest about American foreign policy and supporting puppets for their own ends, ask why we never hear anything about Charles Taylor living a cosy exile in Nigeria.Do you deny that the Americans have created puppet governments for thier own ends?


I based my criticism of you on some strange posts where you seem to both believe that the only good things on this planet come from Japan. Sorry.Sorry dude, you got the wrong guy there are few things about this country that I truly believe are the best in the world. McCrapline is the Japan booster, I'm just here for the money at the moment.

[Kumachan]

What are you talking about Kumachan ? Saddam was a nice guy just ask Reagan. Okay, he gased a few thousand turks and and some of his own people but that doesn't make him any different then George Herbert Walker Bush in terms of loss of life. George successfully convinced half of America that a terrorist is a person with an identity that can be identified through stereotypes. Not once did he ever mention that a terrorist could be an American e.g.(John Walker Lind and Timothy McVeigh or Terry McNickels).Of course not, and the Taliban were nice guys that just so happened to help the Americans run the Russians out of Afghanistan. They're not bad or anything, they were the bestest friends to the Americans.


A terrorist has to be someone from the middle-east specifically Iraq and that Saddam Hussein is the ring-leader and Osama Bin-Laden is the accomplice in it all ! And you know what ? It's working...Yes it is. In my eyes the entire war on terror is actually more frightening than what the terrorists did in the first place.


So far, 1900 plus American lives have been lost in the war on "Terror" an enemy that can be anybody...it can be your next door neighbor, your co-worker, maybe even the little boy singing Christmas carols who probably has sympathy deep down in his little ticking heart for the terrorist who are only trying to fight the enemy in his own homeland.
Does that mean he's wrong for thinking such thoughts.

The notion of terror is an ideology Kumachan which is based off of fear which preys upon ignorance .It's manufactured to a large degree by the powers that be. In order for it to work, they have to keep the population hyped up on it. Get comfortable, don't worry but be alert. And then suddenly they raise the alert level and people are on edge, lower it once the "danger" has passed and suddenly raise it again when people get too complacent.

I'm not saying there aren't times when it's legitimate, but I do believe that most of the time the danger is either manufactured or overrated.

[Kumachan]

You're bloody right JT, I am confusing Kumachan with TAKAI.
Okay, you deserve to be smacked severely for that.

Hold on, lemme go get my bo. I can get a really good whack in that...


My deepest apologies Kumachan, I've been off the ___s for a month and I'm not really myself.

...must... resist... urge... to... make... fun...

... I ... know... he... means.. cigarettes.

Maintain... maintain....

There, I'm better.


Sadam was a complete _______ mind, whoever put him where he was. It's the Baath who are carrying it all on because they know no other way.Saddam was an arsehole that played fast and loose with power and took it too far. The biggest mistake Bush the elder made was not pushing forward and removing him from office.

Then it would have been justified.

[scotty7]

Oh sure, I don't doubt for a moment he's bad guy and that he's done horrible & nasty things but he posed no direct threat to the US which means they had no reason to go in there.

the threat is and was peak oil, or at least the end of cheap oil... the U.S. was looking to set up a "police station" in the area... and oh, the irony of American Suv drivers with "War is not the answer" bumper stickers...

the case is already building against Iran while their planned set-up of an euro-denominated oil bourse in 2006 will surely fan the flames....

[donpaulo]

Here is why you won't see any new or startling revelations from saddam in the US press.

1. Saddam was on the CIA payroll for a number of years
2. He can name names and thus expose CIA operatives
3. He was privy to US Intelligence during the Iran Iraq war.
4. He can expose said Data or perhaps more damaging the level of data that can be collected and how its done and by whom.
5. He might be lucid and make some points about the contested area between Iraq and Kuwait, that the Israel Airforce unilaterally attacked an Iraqi nuclear powerplant before it came online, that Iraq has sovereign rights and that the US is violating those rights

plus others...

it has only downside.

The US public has already decided if the war is "right" or "wrong" so airing saddam on nightline isn't really going to accomplish anything other than stirring the pot up again and the US government still remembers the Vietnam era and what that did. No way they willingly allow it.

FYI there are videos of past interviews with saddam, that COULD be broadcast now...

its true what they say

curiosity killed the cat

[User Name Deleted]

Saddam will eventually get his day in court, and a lot will come out at that time. There's no doubt that there will be a few unwelcome truths come out, but the US government will be able to spin most of them, true or not.

[Kumachan]

Saddam will eventually get his day in court, and a lot will come out at that time. There's no doubt that there will be a few unwelcome truths come out, but the US government will be able to spin most of them, true or not.
I'm looking forward to the day when this happens.

Most of the world is aware of what has happened before, we know that Saddam got help from the CIA (as did Osama but that's another story) and for a while he was Reagan's buddy. But the US has a habit of helping one person, group or country to deal with one problem, then 20 years later they have to help another person, group or country to deal with the problem they created 20 years ago.

Same story with the Taliban, Osama, Noriega etc.

The problem is that these hearings will most likely be behind closed doors, the footage will be heavily censored or the spin doctors will be able to turn everything around.

[Kumachan]

I thought someone might be tempted to pick me up on the ___s. OOps, there I go again.

Kumachan, Kumachan he's a saint
Kumachan Kumachan what restraint

Do you like it. Sorry again Bearman
Reminds me of a story that happened when I was just a young buck of maybe 20. That summer where I worked at the time was party central and every weekend (hell half of the week as well) somebody, somewhere in that great entertainment complex was having a party somewhere.

So as usual, a bunch of us gather together after work and head over to where it is. In this group is a young man of about 21 who has recently come from England and was currently working to pay for his schooling for the next year. We get there, drinks are passed around, eye contact is made with all the pretty girls. I'm currently trying to get to know one of them better when there's an altercation in the kitchen, one guy is being held back by two of his friends while the English chap has a puzzled look on his face.

Seems he asked this guy for a cigarette, but coming from England it came out, "could you ___ me" and it was understood as being a sexual come on.

We all had a good laugh about it afterwards. :)