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2006-02-02, 05:46 AM
Interested to hear your views on this one.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060202a2.html

agnosto
2006-02-02, 09:26 AM
Interested to hear your views on this one.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060202a2.html

A nation of rednecks. It's as if the entire country is one, big, backwoods trailer park.

European royalty have been intermarrying for centuries but then they aren't "divine" as the emperor of Japan is supposed to be.

m2pi
2006-02-02, 11:29 AM
Well this is the redneck country alright...

But if _that_ happens, Japanese can always follow the British royal example by setting up an auto accident to rectify the situation, no?
:eek:

sankokujin
2006-02-02, 11:49 AM
Is that story for feckin' real??!!

First off I thought it must be a spoof, but then a quick check of the calendar showed it to be Feb. 2 and not April 1. Also the website seems legit and real, too.

So I can only conclude that arsehole and his supporters actually did have a meeting and he came out with that racist, xenophobic, sexist crap. In any other 'advanced' country the public airing of such reactionary and offensive comments would bring scorn from the media and civil society, but not in good 'ol Japan. Oh no, sir. Racist, sexist, and just plain illogical comments are made by public figures all the time and no censure ever happens. Just ask the good Guvner of Tokyo, old 'Blinky' Ishihara, and any geriatric LDP member who still thinks he is the descendant of the Sun Goddess Amaterasu or whatever her feckin' name was....

God, sometimes I really hate this country:-(

Thanks for putting me in a bad mood, JT!

agnosto
2006-02-02, 11:52 AM
Is that story for feckin' real??!!

First off I thought it must be a spoof, but then a quick check of the calendar showed it to be Feb. 2 and not April 1. Also the website seems legit and real, too.

So I can only conclude that arsehole and his supporters actually did have a meeting and he came out with that racist, xenophobic, sexist crap. In any other 'advanced' country the public airing of such reactionary and offensive comments would bring scorn from the media and civil society, but not in good 'ol Japan. Oh no, sir. Racist, sexist, and just plain illogical comments are made by public figures all the time and no censure ever happens. Just ask the good Guvner of Tokyo, old 'Blinky' Ishihara, and any geriatric LDP member who still thinks he is the descendant of the Sun Goddess Amaterasu or whatever her feckin' name was....

God, sometimes I really hate this country:-(

Thanks for putting me in a bad mood, JT!


Man, you got all that right; this in a country that's capital city is run by a fascist.

mcalpine
2006-02-02, 12:16 PM
Interested to hear your views on this one.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20060202a2.html

J.T. thanks again for sparking my imagination and rekindling my "Japanesese Only" ambitions.. Please support the N.C.F. because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

I have no problem with a female ascending to the throne. In Japan's long and glorious history their have been eight reigning emperesses who have taken the mantle of divine Daughter of Heaven. And it wasn't until Emperor Meiji changed the law stipulating that only males could ascend to the throne which banned all women from becoming emperesses. So women have always played a role in the political dynamics of Japan so the argunent as to whether they should allow a female to ascend back to the throne is baseless.

Now, when it comes to matters of race mixing then I get sensitive. I love sex with Japanese women but that doesn't justify making a baby who'll probably grow up even more mixed up then the mother ! Moreover, creating an identity crisis within the child at an early age which could lead to autism and aloofness in the childs behavior because of (s)he's inability to fit into a social set. When you see a bi-racial couple then people consider it a novelty because it's cool to be different, but to willfully create a baby knowing full well that 90% of the population will shun him/her is a little unfair for the child, don't you think ? Being responsible for the babies welfare before they're born is just as important as after they are born !! But some parents are so oblivious to this reality that they only stick to their own selfish ambitions then the child suffers.

The throne needs to remain pure ! I need not say more.

Yodogawa
2006-02-02, 12:39 PM
If we changed blue to brown, would it read:


"If Aiko becomes the reigning empress and gets involved with a brown-eyed foreigner while studying abroad and marries him, their child would become a brown-eyed emperor," Hiranuma told about 40 lawmakers, academics and supporters at a Tokyo hall. "We can let that happen."

diva
2006-02-02, 12:51 PM
Some politicians want Japanese royalty to stay Japanese.

And this makes you angry??

Fair enough, the way it was said is just gaijin-bashing, but why on earth should Japan have a mixed parentage monarch?

The next 40 US Presidents are going to be white, middle-aged, male WASPs. A far more serious problem.

agnosto
2006-02-02, 01:02 PM
The next 40 US Presidents are going to be white, middle-aged, male WASPs. A far more serious problem.

Even more scary, the next president might be Hillary Clinton.

observer
2006-02-02, 01:04 PM
If we changed blue to brown, would it read:

"If Aiko becomes the reigning empress and gets involved with a brown-eyed foreigner while studying abroad and marries him, their child would become a brown-eyed emperor," Hiranuma told about 40 lawmakers, academics and supporters at a Tokyo hall. "We can let that happen."

No not quite... It would actually read like this:

"If Aiko becomes the reigning empress and gets involved with an INFERIOR brown-eyed foreigner while studying abroad and marries him, their child would become an INFERIOR brown-eyed emperor," Hiranuma told about 40 lawmakers, academics and supporters at a Tokyo hall. "We can NEVER let that happen."


That aside...


You know what folks, I know what we need...

What we need is a brave, virile blue-eyed foreigner strong enough to penetrate the imperial defences of Her Highness and successfully corrupt the supreme Imperial Line.

Hey, that will make lots of people here happy. Or so I suppose.

Any volunteers here? Hey, I am willing to donate money for the pregnancy test kit.

aha yes
2006-02-02, 01:07 PM
Now, when it comes to matters of race mixing then I get sensitive. I love sex with Japanese women but that doesn't justify making a baby who'll probably grow up even more mixed up then the mother ! Moreover, creating an identity crisis within the child at an early age which could lead to autism and aloofness in the childs behavior because of (s)he's inability to fit into a social set. When you see a bi-racial couple then people consider it a novelty because it's cool to be different, but to willfully create a baby knowing full well that 90% of the population will shun him/her is a little unfair for the child, don't you think ? Being responsible for the babies welfare before they're born is just as important as after they are born !! But some parents are so oblivious to this reality that they only stick to their own selfish ambitions then the child suffers.

The throne needs to remain pure ! I need not say more.
Toejam, it never ceases to amaze me what a brainless ____ you really are. Even if you want to blame the parents cuz 90% of society are racist pigs, bi-racial kids don't have to grow up confused about who or what they are, and I'd really like to see where this stinking turd of a tidbit about autism and aloofness comes from. Bi-racial kids have two cultures to pick and choose from – yeah they have to go through life dealing with misinformed yet loudmouth numbskulls like you who would have them believe there's something wrong with them – but in the end they'll probably just end up more independent-minded and flexible than a proudly monocultural ___ like yourself.

If there's even one piece of this reeaaallly offensive and stupid diatribe of yours that approaches good sense, it's this: People who develop to the highest levels of intercultural competence (an integrative ethnorelative view) tend to be marginalized by mainstream society – not necessarily bi-racials, mind you, but anyone who manages to reach that level. I suppose bi-culturals are more inclined to reach such a level, due to the fact that they aren't locked into a one absolute mindset, so they may be marginalized...but it's not just because they're bi-racial. It happens to anyone whose worldview grows too wide for them to be easily understood by -- or to easily understand -- the worldview of closed minds.

Furthermore, the throne has never been pure. Tenno himself has admitted as much. Wake up, jackass!

RE: the article, this trade minister is using the "blue-eyed foreigner" warning the same way Bush & Co. use "terrorism" and "national security" to keep people in constant fear and therefore more amenable to keeping the status quo. It has nothing to do with purity – and definitely nothing to do with parents' "selfish ambitions" (once more, "F___ you, McAlpine!") – and everything to do with maintenance of power.

Morning Star
2006-02-02, 01:18 PM
You know what folks, I know what we need...

What we need is a brave, virile blue-eyed foreigner strong enough to penetrate the imperial defences of Her Highness and successfully corrupt the supreme Imperial Line.

Just got done emailing my mom and telling her about my newfound purpose in life.

SteadyRollingMan
2006-02-02, 01:25 PM
Lets see, if I understand Japanese history correct, the imperial line is foreign anyhow as they are of Korean decent. So what is the big deal if they get a blue eyed foreigner in? Also couldn't a male emperor fall in love with a foreign woman? The soon to be emperor was supposed to be in love with Brooke Shields at one time. Some idiots in this country will do anything to keep women down on the farm.

sankokujin
2006-02-02, 01:26 PM
Now, when it comes to matters of race mixing then I get sensitive. I love sex with Japanese women but that doesn't justify making a baby who'll probably grow up [B]even more mixed up then the mother.

Can I take this to mean then that you won't be reproducing your sorry-arsed worthless DNA in the future? Because you see, if you rule out making babies with deluded Japanese women McCrapline, I can't imagine the women of any other race or nation (and definitely not your own) letting you impregnate them.

Such a thought has cheered me up already:)

Yodogawa
2006-02-02, 01:33 PM
"Even if you want to blame the parents cuz 90% of society are racist pigs, bi-racial kids don't have to grow up confused about who or what they are, and I'd really like to see where this stinking turd of a tidbit about autism and aloofness comes from. Bi-racial kids have two cultures to pick and choose from – yeah they have to go through life dealing with misinformed yet loudmouth numbskulls like you who would have them believe there's something wrong with them – but in the end they'll probably just end up more independent-minded and flexible than a proudly monocultural ___ like yourself.

If there's even one piece of this reeaaallly offensive and stupid diatribe of yours, it's this: People who develop to the highest levels of intercultural competence (an integrative ethnorelative view) tend to be marginalized by mainstream society – not necessarily bi-racials, mind you, but anyone who manages to reach that level. I suppose bi-culturals are more inclined to reach such a level, due to the fact that they aren't locked into a one absolute mindset, so they may be marginalized...but it's not just because they're bi-racial. It happens to anyone whose worldview grows too wide for them to be easily understood by -- or to easily understand -- the worldview of closed minds."

Aha Yes

Why weren't you around when I was growing up.

6koala8
2006-02-02, 01:41 PM
The next 40 US Presidents are going to be white, middle-aged, male WASPs. A far more serious problem.

No.
Hillary in 2008!
or
Run Condi Run!
depending on your political persuasion.

aha yes
2006-02-02, 01:54 PM
Aha Yes

Why weren't you around when I was growing up.
Unfortunately, Yodogawa, I was probably out in the schoolyard teasing the mixed kids...but I grew out of it. Some people (ahem...Toejam) never do.

sankokujin,
As hapless boy-toy to a married woman, are you sure you've got the leverege to diss on Toejam's chances for reproduction? As Toejam has stated on here many times, he has already reproduced. Ironically, the kid is bi-racial... Let's hear it for parental responsibility!!

mcalpine
2006-02-02, 02:30 PM
Unfortunately, Yodogawa, I was probably out in the schoolyard teasing the mixed kids...but I grew out of it. Some people (ahem...Toejam) never do.

sankokujin,
As hapless boy-toy to a married woman, are you sure you've got the leverege to diss on Toejam's chances for reproduction? As Toejam has stated on here many times, he has already reproduced. Ironically, the kid is bi-racial... Let's hear it for parental responsibility!!

Sorry if I picked a nerve Aha, but you know it's not always necessary to be defensive about the truth. What you are prescribing to is that people should evolve to a higher state of intercultural awareness and that by achieving this state of mind people will somehow be better I guess. Well, life never imitates spirituality and people are people and no matter how novel it is to be bi-racial or bi-cultural, humans have a tendency to regress back to the most primitive tribal instinct; survival and selection. Sure, in a perfect world we would all mix and match up with each other and spawn a new raceless and borderless society and where people can live in harmony and kiss each other on both cheeks. But Aha, as you have some grand wizard blood on your hands you know this can't be possible and not that race mixing is bad but you have to take into consideration where and how you choose to raise your child. Japan is not the ideal country for such ambitions. U.S.A. would be better as most Americans are mixed with something anyway. In Japan , no ! In this country ideology and ethnocentic attitudes are considered fact not real facts.

mcalpine
2006-02-02, 02:34 PM
Can I take this to mean then that you won't be reproducing your sorry-arsed worthless DNA in the future? Because you see, if you rule out making babies with deluded Japanese women McCrapline, I can't imagine the women of any other race or nation (and definitely not your own) letting you impregnate them.

Such a thought has cheered me up already:)

Well, cheer no more because I have procreated. In the future I plan to adopt a Japanese baby and breastfeed it with my chocolate nipples.

aha yes
2006-02-02, 02:43 PM
Sorry if I picked a nerve Aha, but you know it's not always necessary to be defensive about the truth. What you are prescribing to is that people should evolve to a higher state of intercultural awareness and that by achieving this state of mind people will somehow be better I guess...
How can I be defensive about the truth when what you wrote is a crock of ____? And no, I'm not prescribing to any higher spiritual state for society at large. Get real. I'm saying that mixed kids, rather than turning autistic(?!), can reach a state where the ignorance of people like you doesn't harm them.



...not that race mixing is bad but you have to take into consideration where and how you choose to raise your child. Japan is not the ideal country for such ambitions. U.S.A. would be better as most Americans are mixed with something anyway. In Japan , no ! In this country ideology and ethnocentic attitudes are considered fact not real facts.
If you had written this to begin with, I would have nothing to add. Parents do have to be careful. Duh... But you said much more than this. Go back and read your first post -- you said pretty clearly that mixing is a bad thing. Toejam, autism?

mcalpine
2006-02-02, 03:00 PM
How can I be defensive about the truth when what you wrote is a crock of ____? And no, I'm not prescribing to any higher spiritual state for society at large. Get real. I'm saying that mixed kids, rather than turning autistic(?!), can reach a state where the ignorance of people like you doesn't harm them.



If you had written this to begin with, I would have nothing to add. Parents do have to be careful. Duh... But you said much more than this. Go back and read your first post -- you said pretty clearly that mixing is a bad thing. Toejam, autism?

Mr. Porksand-O-wichi-I,

I stand by my previous statement as well and though autism may vary from child to child, which can happen to any child regardless of race or culture, autism can stem from a childs inability to associate with his or her peers. A child that's bi-racial may not always find acceptance so (s)he may become withdrawn or aloof which may make (s)he seem autistic in THIS country.

aha yes
2006-02-02, 03:10 PM
Mr. Porksand-O-wichi-I,

I stand by my previous statement as well and though autism may vary from child to child, which can happen to any child regardless of race or culture, autism can stem from a childs inability to associate with his or her peers. A child that's bi-racial may not always find acceptance so (s)he may become withdrawn or aloof which may make (s)he seem autistic in THIS country.
It's certainly your right to stand by being an idiot if you like, or you could do a quick search on autism and find that it generally develops before the age of 3, or between 18 and 30 months. Now tell me, how many 3-yr-olds are even aware that they don't fit in...at least so acutely that it would drive them to a neurological disorder? Cart before the horse, Toejam. My understanding is that autism is not CAUSED by problems with communication or social interaction -- those are its EFFECTS. Just what kind of fear-mongering half-loaded "science" article did you pull that from?

PS I don't really see how an aloof, self-absorbed kid would stick out as abnormal in THIS country anyway.

agnosto
2006-02-02, 03:27 PM
Mr. Porksand-O-wichi-I,

I stand by my previous statement as well and though autism may vary from child to child, which can happen to any child regardless of race or culture, autism can stem from a childs inability to associate with his or her peers. A child that's bi-racial may not always find acceptance so (s)he may become withdrawn or aloof which may make (s)he seem autistic in THIS country.

I guess we should all run out and feel bad for Tiger Woods now, he's so autistic, poor thing.

I'm sure Japanese society might drive some people to autism, I know it drives some of the populace into jumping in front of trains.

Uber-Dork
2006-02-02, 04:06 PM
"Even if you want to blame the parents cuz 90% of society are racist pigs, bi-racial kids don't have to grow up confused about who or what they are, and I'd really like to see where this stinking turd of a tidbit about autism and aloofness comes from. Bi-racial kids have two cultures to pick and choose from – yeah they have to go through life dealing with misinformed yet loudmouth numbskulls like you who would have them believe there's something wrong with them – but in the end they'll probably just end up more independent-minded and flexible than a proudly monocultural ___ like yourself.

If there's even one piece of this reeaaallly offensive and stupid diatribe of yours, it's this: People who develop to the highest levels of intercultural competence (an integrative ethnorelative view) tend to be marginalized by mainstream society – not necessarily bi-racials, mind you, but anyone who manages to reach that level. I suppose bi-culturals are more inclined to reach such a level, due to the fact that they aren't locked into a one absolute mindset, so they may be marginalized...but it's not just because they're bi-racial. It happens to anyone whose worldview grows too wide for them to be easily understood by -- or to easily understand -- the worldview of closed minds."

Aha Yes

Why weren't you around when I was growing up.

Why do you always have to bring race into this? Hitler would have been proud to call you one of his own. Racist.

aha yes
2006-02-02, 04:13 PM
Why do you always have to bring race into this? Hitler would have been proud to call you one of his own. Racist.
Technically, you're referring to my remarks, which Yodogawa quoted, and to answer your question, I mention race because THAT'S WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT, Dork. :rolleyes: Reading comprehension not your forte, huh?

sandro
2006-02-02, 04:42 PM
finally a mussolini like can become the emperor of japan,
waiting for the bill to be passed.

aiko san gamabatte ne!!

mcalpine
2006-02-02, 05:40 PM
It's certainly your right to stand by being an idiot if you like, or you could do a quick search on autism and find that it generally develops before the age of 3, or between 18 and 30 months. Now tell me, how many 3-yr-olds are even aware that they don't fit in...at least so acutely that it would drive them to a neurological disorder? Cart before the horse, Toejam. My understanding is that autism is not CAUSED by problems with communication or social interaction -- those are its EFFECTS. Just what kind of fear-mongering half-loaded "science" article did you pull that from?

PS I don't really see how an aloof, self-absorbed kid would stick out as abnormal in THIS country anyway.

We are back in full swing again baby ! Good to see you do what you do best - flame flame flame. Yes, I am fully aware that I put the cart before the horse on this one. I had to see if you were on your toes. I love to get you going . For your informatio autism can happen after the age of three in many cases. Autism is becoming more common now in grade school children and you can see it in this country as well.

sandro
2006-02-02, 05:43 PM
Technically, you're referring to my remarks, which Yodogawa quoted, and to answer your question, I mention race because THAT'S WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT, Dork. :rolleyes: Reading comprehension not your forte, huh?

i concorde aha yes, is not her forte.

mcalpine
2006-02-02, 05:45 PM
http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer?pagename=WhatisAutism

User Name Deleted
2006-02-02, 08:28 PM
Is that story for feckin' real??!!

First off I thought it must be a spoof, but then a quick check of the calendar showed it to be Feb. 2 and not April 1. Also the website seems legit and real, too.

So I can only conclude that arsehole and his supporters actually did have a meeting and he came out with that racist, xenophobic, sexist crap. In any other 'advanced' country the public airing of such reactionary and offensive comments would bring scorn from the media and civil society, but not in good 'ol Japan. Oh no, sir. Racist, sexist, and just plain illogical comments are made by public figures all the time and no censure ever happens. Just ask the good Guvner of Tokyo, old 'Blinky' Ishihara, and any geriatric LDP member who still thinks he is the descendant of the Sun Goddess Amaterasu or whatever her feckin' name was....

God, sometimes I really hate this country:-(

Thanks for putting me in a bad mood, JT!

It's rather a hypothetical situation anyway, as everything will be managed so that Aiko does not get too close to any blond haired guy with blue eyes and a big nose.

They'll find her a gormless salaryman and she'll rule her subjects miserably ever after, having inherited a predisposition for mental illness from her mother.

sankokujin
2006-02-02, 09:20 PM
It's rather a hypothetical situation anyway, as everything will be managed so that Aiko does not get too close to any blond haired guy with blue eyes and a big nose.

They'll find her a gormless salaryman and she'll rule her subjects miserably ever after, having inherited a predisposition for mental illness from her mother.

You're prolly right. Anyway, it's not as if she's likely to turn out to be a real stunner looking at how freaky and in-bred looking she is now. Arrogant bastards! They should be so lucky that any foreigner would even want to mix it with her:)

arginjapan
2006-02-02, 09:21 PM
i concorde aha yes, is not her forte.
I never thought I'd live to see the day when there would be a poster who would make Electric Japan seem coherent by comparison. But that day has dawned...

User Name Deleted
2006-02-02, 09:24 PM
You're prolly right. Anyway, it's not as if she's likely to turn out to be a real stunner looking at how freaky and in-bred looking she is now. Arrogant bastards! They should be so lucky that any foreigner would even want to mix it with her:)

She may blossom as she gets older, but my money is that she will be known when she gets older as 不細工様 rather than 愛子様。

arginjapan
2006-02-02, 09:26 PM
Toejam, it never ceases to amaze me what a brainless ____ you really are.
Aha, why are you wasting perfectly good logic on this guy? It's like pumping th slots at Vegas-only with no hope of any return.

aha yes
2006-02-02, 10:27 PM
http://www.autism-society.org/site/PageServer?pagename=WhatisAutism
The front page of this Web site says boys are 4x more likely than girls to develop autism. So, if I find out I'm gonna have a little boy in May, should I take the coat hanger to him now for his own good? Cuz I don't want to be responsible if he gets autism.

mcalpine
2006-02-03, 12:16 AM
You're prolly right. Anyway, it's not as if she's likely to turn out to be a real stunner looking at how freaky and in-bred looking she is now. Arrogant bastards! They should be so lucky that any foreigner would even want to mix it with her:)

Aiko will be a stunner when she gets older if you know what I mean sakojindude ! I can't wait until she blossoms into a beautiful chrysanthemum

mcalpine
2006-02-03, 12:19 AM
The front page of this Web site says boys are 4x more likely than girls to develop autism. So, if I find out I'm gonna have a little boy in May, should I take the coat hanger to him now for his own good? Cuz I don't want to be responsible if he gets autism.

As the days go by my love for you grows fonder ! (sigh)

No, don't do that Jude. Just take my pearls of wisdom and move back home, that's it.

Tojo wipes his glasses and dry's his eye's.

User Name Deleted
2006-02-03, 08:12 AM
Aiko will be a stunner when she gets older if you know what I mean sakojindude ! I can't wait until she blossoms into a beautiful chrysanthemum

Me thinks that ain't going to happen, but you never do know.

aha yes
2006-02-03, 09:20 AM
No, don't do that Jude. Just take my pearls of wisdom and move back home, that's it.
Now why would I go back home if the whole reason me & my dumbass wife had our little Novelty was to show it off? I see your "wisdom" about the kid's welfare, but I'm getting my kicks!

mumjen
2006-02-03, 09:54 AM
My Japanese husband started raving on about this last night.
He started his lecture about chromosones, xx and xy.
He said it will be the end of the emperor's blood line and women and men are different, so woment can't do things that men can and men can't do things that women can.

He started lecturing me about world history, making such great statements like, don't you realise that in history it is all about men and men in control. That is for some reason you know and you just can't go and change things just because women think they can do anything. (At this stage you will all be pleased to know I put down the knife I had been cutting potatoes with, didn't want to do anything I might regret later)

Did I really marry this guy?? But what a hypocrite!! His family blood has been mixed with my good Aussie stuff I don't think he is quite in a position to talk about this.

cutyourhair
2006-02-03, 10:12 AM
My Japanese husband started raving on about this last night.
He started his lecture about chromosones, xx and xy.
He said it will be the end of the emperor's blood line and women and men are different, so woment can't do things that men can and men can't do things that women can.

He started lecturing me about world history, making such great statements like, don't you realise that in history it is all about men and men in control. That is for some reason you know and you just can't go and change things just because women think they can do anything. (At this stage you will all be pleased to know I put down the knife I had been cutting potatoes with, didn't want to do anything I might regret later)

Did I really marry this guy?? But what a hypocrite!! His family blood has been mixed with my good Aussie stuff I don't think he is quite in a position to talk about this.

There seems to be a trend in Asian science (more like a ___ -up and unsuprising one) that ones line is passed down through the Y chromosome... Sadly, this is one big mistake made to justify some of the misogyny that goes on here.
Humans all have one female ancestor.
Ones bloodline can be traced matrilineal through the X chromosome. Ask any geneticist.

(insert innuendo about a royal family that only has male succession here)

aha yes
2006-02-03, 11:53 PM
There seems to be a trend in Asian science (more like a ___ -up and unsuprising one) that ones line is passed down through the Y chromosome... Sadly, this is one big mistake made to justify some of the misogyny that goes on here.
Humans all have one female ancestor.
Ones bloodline can be traced matrilineal through the X chromosome. Ask any geneticist.
Ummm...I'm no geneticist, but I think they only trace bloodlines through males because they use DNA mutations as markers to identify descendants, and only the markers in the Y-chromosome are preserved from generation to generation, since they get no input from the mother. The X can be mutated by input from the mother or father, so it can't be traced.

So, the idea of bloodline "purity" in that sense is backed by science.

Don't start throwing tomatoes at me. I'm an equal opportunity chromosome contributor. And the whole idea doesn't pass my So What Factor: If you met a guy who could honestly claim 30,000 years worth of preserved DNA, what are you gonna do, pat him on the shoulder and say, "Hey buddy, congratulations. Here's a box of Pocky." ??

BTW this is a completely separate issue from inbreeding. The "freaky" look comes from too much purity on both sides. Trust me, I grew up in the southern Appalachians. We're all related, and we have to be careful about these things.

cutyourhair
2006-02-04, 01:36 PM
Ummm...I'm no geneticist, but I think they only trace bloodlines through males because they use DNA mutations as markers to identify descendants, and only the markers in the Y-chromosome are preserved from generation to generation, since they get no input from the mother. The X can be mutated by input from the mother or father, so it can't be traced.

So, the idea of bloodline "purity" in that sense is backed by science.

Don't start throwing tomatoes at me. I'm an equal opportunity chromosome contributor. And the whole idea doesn't pass my So What Factor: If you met a guy who could honestly claim 30,000 years worth of preserved DNA, what are you gonna do, pat him on the shoulder and say, "Hey buddy, congratulations. Here's a box of Pocky." ??

BTW this is a completely separate issue from inbreeding. The "freaky" look comes from too much purity on both sides. Trust me, I grew up in the southern Appalachians. We're all related, and we have to be careful about these things.

That National Geographic issue was awhile ago... When I am bored next time, I will get back to you on this.

Ya'll just don't know enbredn' till you been down South.

aha yes
2006-02-04, 02:22 PM
That National Geographic issue was awhile ago... When I am bored next time, I will get back to you on this.

Ya'll just don't know enbredn' till you been down South.
The story about tracing Phoenician migration? October 2004. That's where I read the above. So you're from the South too? That would excuse you for getting things backward. :p

PS "I'm just a boy with a new haircut, and that's a pretty nice haircut..."

mcalpine
2006-02-04, 05:20 PM
The story about tracing Phoenician migration? October 2004. That's where I read the above. So you're from the South too? That would excuse you for getting things backward. :p

PS "I'm just a boy with a new haircut, and that's a pretty nice haircut..."

Turds of a feather float together I guess ! You two are made for each other ! hahaha...

aha yes
2006-02-04, 08:39 PM
Turds of a feather float together I guess ! You two are made for each other ! hahaha...
hahaha...

That was pretty funny for you, Toejam, but I think it would have been better if you had worked in something about squealing like a pig, or if you'd used "flotsam"...that word always makes me giggle.


BTW You do realize, don't you, that you got caught on this thread talking out of your ___ again? But you probably gave up on credibility a long time ago, eh?

arginjapan
2006-02-04, 08:43 PM
I think it would have been better if you had worked in something about squealing like a pig
Ya gotta admit though Aha, judging from McAlpine's pic, his mouth shore is purty!