clothes for the actually really tall

[mjrdink]

I'm 196 cm and i've overstayed how long i originally planned. Therefore, my clothes are starting to turn to rags! Litterally, i'm developing holes in the butt of my jeans, hehe.
Obviously you probably know my question. Where can i find pants that fit me?
my size (in america anyway) is 34 waist and 36 length. I believe this is around like 87x91 in japan or something.

I've gone to gap, they don't carry my size, and the website is no help either (i ordered one pair that my family will forward to me, but that was the ONLY pair on the site in my size)... do you know if the stores can order larger sizes?
does anyone know of any other stores that might carry my size?

Big and Tall stores usually require that you be BIG too... but i'm not... if i had a size 40 waist there is a store near me that has clothes. but for my waist size, they have nothing long enough.

HELP PLEASE!

[trip_hop]

Try lansend.com in the the US, not the Japanese site, which uses Japanese sizes.

[ExAET]

I also find finding pants that fit hard to come by here, even at the GAP, JCrew, etc. I'm 181cms tall and wear a size 34x34 (hard to believe you wear a 34x36 at 196cms, not that I'm doubting you or anything). Anyhow, I've resorted to buying online. LLBean, LandsEnd, JCrew, GAP are the companies that I know of that use the same measuring system in both America and Japan... well, not sure about GAP recently.

I bought 4 pieces of clothing online recently that added up to US$190 ($130 for the clothes, $60 for 1 week delivery). It would have come to over \25000 for the same stuff on the japanese site, (\24000 for the clothes, \1000 for 3 day?? delivery). So it may be worth it if you bought directly from a US site. I chose the $60 delivery but it came in like 4 days. There was a 3 week, $30 delievery option which probably would have took less that 2 weeks so you might be able to save more that way.

[dipchick]

You also might want to check out some aussie mail order companies--those aussies tend to be pretty tall... Also, the prices tend to be better than US mail order. I can't recommend any (I am an actually really short person, although not so much here), but I have tried on imported aussie women's clothes that are WAY too long for me. Also, maybe Zara for men (I am assuming you are a guy)--their women's clothes are pretty long...

[Steve Austin]

Uniqlo is the answer! The poor man's gap! I am not as tall as you 190cm but I have bought pants and long sleeve shirts with room to spare!

[mjrdink]

ExAET, why would you find it hard to believe that i wear a 34x36 just out of curiosity...

I haven't checked out LandsEnd or LLBean yet, so i'll give them a try. JCrew was way too expensive for my taste, $70 for a pair of jeans? no way..

Dipchick, do you know the names of any Aussie mail order companies that i can look into?
I'll look into Zara for men,(me being a guy) is that a company i can find on the internet?

Steve Austin, where can i find a Uniqlo? Sounds promising...

Thank you all for your advice! Hopefully i won't have to walk around with no pants (much to my girlfriend's dismay)

[harvey]

Adding my two cents in, I'm in the 194cm range and have yet to find any pants, other than pants for a suit with an unfinished hem, that fit. The Uniqlo in this town did not have any with a long enough inseam (also 36" for me). Perhaps those in Tokyo or Osaka have larger sizes. I have always bought online from retailers in the US, had it sent to a relative's house and received it as a "gift." It is a good way of getting around customs taxes that might apply on direct import from a company. Often the retailers will have free shipping withing the US, so only the fee to mail to Japan is incurred. As an aside, the LandsEnd catalogue I received (Japanese version), did not have clothing my size.

[mjrdink]

update:

uniqlo... nada..(style good, but no lengths over 86cm/34inches).
landsEnd... got my size, just not my style (yeah, i'm a little picky... but jeans that don't have at least a boot cut fit just look really really dumb on me)
LLBean (the same, but might look for shirts there if i ever need them)

still need more info on the australian thing...

thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it!

[shikoku kid]

I'm 34x34 and can find loads of jeans here--and this is a pretty small town. The jeans I tend to buy are EDWIN and the hems of my current pair are frayed from trailing the ground so I guess they would fit 36'' long person. I get mine at a shop called Right-on. Not sure if they have one near you but worth a try. Price wise they cost 8000-10,000. Not so lucky with normal pants for work though--again I would say Uniqlo is your best bet.

[dipchick]

If you are in Tokyo, Zara is in Omotesando. May be available online, I don't know. Try googling it--I'm pretty certain that it is a spanish company. As for the aussie thing, I haven't any actual mailorder shops for you, but again, google it (Australia online shopping or mail order or something like that).
Suerte...

[dipchick]

try this (NZ, not australia):

http://www.ezibuy.co.nz/content/shop.php

They will ship overseas, but I think you have to order by phone. Here's that info:

http://www.ezibuy.co.nz/content/help_internationalorders.php

And here's Zara:

http://www.zara.com/i03/index.php

Happy shopping.

[kurogane]

BUT, remember, Uniqlone only works if you have Japanese size hips, bum, and thighs. Those of us with more amply rounded glutealites have a hard time fitting into Uniqlo pants (both British and Canadian pants). Even the recent styles sold as very loose fitting end up looking like paint on stovepipes.

I have found a large variety of large and tall sizes at the Gap here in Kyoto. Maybe your local store can phone and inquire around for you??

Good Luck,

Shorter, but stockily yours,
Kurogane

[mjrdink]

thanks a bunch! i will check those out and let you know how it goes!

[mjrdink]

like i said.. uniqlo was a no.... they had stuff i liked (i don't mind my pants being painted on, makes for a sexy look)... but they only go up to japanese length 86 (34 US)... and sadly thats not long enough no matter how low i wear them....

gap is the same, i can get stuff online from gap in my size, but they seem to be out of everything lately.

[kurogane]

Condolences from a shorter legged bubble bum boy.

Have you thought about going to a 100 yen store, buying those roll end cloth scraps they sell, and sewing on some Groovy Hippy bell bottom cuffs? You will be all the rage in Teramachi Boulevard (or whereever), and your ankles won't get cold.

As for the painted on look, MMMNNNN????, ........to each his own ;>

At any rate, condolences. As Carole King sang, You Hvae a Friend, doo doo doo. It's a nice place, but I am starting to find the hassle of shopping for basic clothing a real pain. My current boxers look like an advertisement for an advice column on how not to wear your Lycra. Tighter than tight. But sexy, as you noted. :)

[mjrdink]

my USA boxers are doing ok yet.. and i'm a pretty skinny fellow... i'm just all around bigger than japanese... so if i wear fat japanese man boxers i think i'll be ok...

[kurogane]

Fat boxers no Bigaku

Ahhh, Yes! I forgot about those babies. I am in Uniqlo XLs, and I am getting the comprehensive Ball/Pud pinch. However, the Fat Man boxers I have tried involve a different problem, The Attack of the Dreaded Long Crotch. You may have noticed that Japanese pants seem to be made on a pattern that involves a shorter leg, but longer rise (i.e. the scrotum to navel proportion). This seems to be based on the equivalent general difference in bodily proportions. I, however, end up with a pair of Gonch that fit everywhere else, but are as droopy as a skateboarder's jeans. The Girlfriend gets a big kick out the look, but it ain't much fun when it is 98 degrees, 98% humidity, and the whole region is bunched up in my loose but still fashionably smart American Eagle fatigues (I should write for a catologue). AHHH, The HORROR.
;)

The really galling thing is that compared to home (Canada), basic men's clothes are comparable in price, and in some cases way cheaper (e.g. boxers), but they are like a distant mirage of haberdasheric comfort, one I shall never reach.

[mjrdink]

hmm.. i usually notice that japanese pants have less of a crotch... due to the lack of the need for crotch space - if you catch my drift.

fat man pants here are a huge problem i think... japanese clothing manufacturers have the Big and Tall thing all wrong... from what i see (and tell me if you've seen different) pants work like this:

normal: up to 86x86
fat... 91-96etcx86
then they seem to think that if you're fatter than a 94 or 96 waist or something, that you MUST be tall (which i don't understand) cuz the next size is:
94-100x91 (barely taller)
100-106x94 (what? why? ... i've never seen a fat man that tall before!)

so even at big and tall shops this is why i can't find pants... because 94 is too big for my waist on the pants that have a 91 lenth... why does NO ONE account for the guys who are healthy weight and tall???

[Anonymous]

<.... cos' there ain't enuff \ to be made offa the 17 giant-legged, un-porky buggerz that live in Japain. THIS IS JAPPAN, take a walk around-you gotta acclimatize cos'they ain't acclimatizing 2 U, brah.

EITHER GO TO EBAY, OR GET BACK-ALLEY HACKSAW OPERATION THEN PROSTHETIC LEG.

cheers

Tomoko.

[mjrdink]

wow... someone's unhappy... thats definatly no way to make friends.

why do there have to be those few people on the internet that have to go and try to ____ off the others who are having a normal conversation?

and just an FYI... the problem of a lack of clothes for tall people is a problem that exsists in ALL countries i believe. I know lots of people my height in America (and quite a few in Japan, making your estimates way off) that also have problems finding clothes because stores don't carry our sizes... brah. the world "acclimatizes" to everyone else who's problems are somtimes even self inflicted, so i just wonder why not me? simple thought is all, i'm not telling Japan to change, i like the country just as it is thank you... thats what makes it Japan.

[Anonymous]

"unhappy"? no.

facetious?
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adj : cleverly amusing in tone; "a bantering tone"; "facetious remarks"; "tongue-in-cheek advice" [syn: bantering, tongue-in-cheek]
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DUH!. (excluding the "clever" bit. obviously.) Could have done with an "emoticon" (guh) to more adequately negotiate my tack.

*huHUH. "language keeps us locked and repeating" <fvgazi>

[Bluedog]

Yeah, I had the misfortune of buying a pair of pants from Gap that actually fit well when I was standing up, but when I sat down, it was like "OOhhhh christ, how's yer father!" I had to endure meetings with one hand down there working to relieve that pressure. If ya know what I mean. Then again, one pressure-relieving hand can be a great way to get through any meeting, pants or none.

On later pants buying expeditions, I did a lot of squats and crouching around in the new pants, the salesman thought I was an idiot, but I didn't even give him a proper explanation. Just told him "I"m checking them" and left it at that. I usually buy a few sizes up now.

[kurogane]

AND REMEMBER,

This is a guy who admits to "plying young boys with jesus juice", so ya got to figure he has some use for those things.

Who goes to meetings without pants? That has to be the most liberal appearance policy I have ever heard of. Where do you work, and are they hiring?

[Bluedog]

I work at a "young acting talent" agency called BoyzR'us. It's generally a no pants thing. Our appearance policy is that if you make an appearance, preferably in the am portion of the day, then you are doing ok. They're always on the lookout for new people, but rather than formally applying, someone will make you an offer while you're walking down a dark alley. As they say, it's that first contact that means the most.

[kurogane]

Are you the people that brought the world "Kinky Kids"????????

Can you believe we got here from a post that was only wanting information for pants? Mind you, his handle is mjrdink, which makes you think of Chaos Theory, and all its manifold ramifications....

Now that really is pants.

Wrap Up, Play Safe

[Bluedog]

How does 'mjrdink' make you think of Chaos theory? It made me wonder if I was missing some vital link so I googled it and got only a "rinky-dink" website.

I think the central principle of chaos was that it only takes a minor dink to majorly screw up your day. And if a butterfly farts in the southern hemisphere, can you smell it in the northern?

Maybe the major himself could answer that one.

[mjrdink]

I don't think my life fits with the chaos theory very well... maybe about half of it does. Cuz my life was screwed up in the beginning, and its still screwed up now. More in some aspects and less in others. And my handle being chaos theory related? not so sure about that one...

and for reference. the "mjr" is not major... its my initials... and 'dink' is my nickname that comes from my last name that starts with R

and ends in DINK ...

so now you've all been educated.

on a side note... is boyzrus hiring? i'm badly in need of a job ;) hehe i also have some familiarity with acting and backalleys ( i'm a theatre major and i've lived with a gay man for 2 years in college, actually quite a plesant experience socially )

[Bluedog]

"hehe i also have some familiarity with acting and backalleys"

Fwoooar. Well, you've really left me nowhere to go with sly innuendo after a statement like that. Fair enough then. Hope you got the pants sorted.

[kurogane]

Does that mean you are not a Major Dink?

[woodie_woodpeck]

I'd suggest wearing your trousers lower on your waist and letting them just hang from your hips like i do. I'm 1.96 metres and always wear 34 inch inside leg as long as they are 45 inch outside leg and at least 11 inches across at the bottom of the trousers where they hang over your shoes. You can order from the UK at lots of places depending on what sorta 'trousers' or 'pants' you want. If your still want more length I know a dude who adds flaps onto the bottom of them and they still look cool.

[woodie_woodpeck]

Get all your suits and jeans tailor made in Bangkok. Cheap and excellent cuts/quality. Get your big shoes in Gotanda in Tokyo.