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[westsan]

Post Edited (10-12-03 09:48)



Post Edited (04-10-04 11:46)

[Bongo]

Why thank you professor. Also in the news, there is a VERY SLIGHT correlation between half truths, dodgy science, made up statistics, unreferenced "scientific studies" and what is posted on Internet discussion boards.

Move along there.

[Travis Smith]

Westan once again you have proven that you are a moron.

DO YOU HAVE A JOB OTHER THAN TROLLING?

[westsan]

OK. So you dont wanna believe it... that may be the biggest factor yet.

[April]

My females friends and I once discussed this topic. It's true. From our collective experiences, small ones turn into very big ones when it matters the most. And we also believe there is a co-relation between decrease in flacid size and increase in technique.

[macrojapan]

Never argue with a woman about _____ size.....unless you have experience....

That being said...

If Japanese men on average are the same or roughly the same as western males then why cant I wear a standard Japanese condom..but I can wear a standard USA condom?

I mean dont you think condom compainies do research before they dump a few million in a product. Or do you think the boss whips it out and says ok this is our size.

Finally, what about porn? Yeah I have watched it. In the US most Porn Producers put their best foot or biggest member forward. So why in Japanese porn do I constantly see the image of something I could live upto as opposed to US porn where
I am afraid to let my GF watch it (westsan I am not really afraid just making a jok here). Maybe the Japanese are going for average..not sure but for business it seems the shock value should be there.

Not Finally..I forgot

I did read a study, and I will try to find it, that said most men white/black/hispanic are within an average range. But Black males have a 17%-20% chance of being above that range and white males have a 7%-10% chance of being below that range.

This means if your black, phisiologically / genetically, you have a about a 20% chance of developing a member that is over 7 inches long when errect.


I will look for it. It was on a Medical Research site- but did read it last year when working on my thesis.

Macro

[westsan]

So Archivist/Research boy>>

You are arguing that on average gaijin are the same or roughly have larger penises than Japanese males?

[macrojapan]

I am not arguing. I am asking why Japanese condoms are smaller if in gerenal _____ size is about the same. Any ideas why they are the size they are?


I am thinking someone did a study and determined the optimum size before producing the condoms.

That is all.

Look I have Put My ___ on The line!!!

[Bongo]

Calm down girls.

[westsan]

You have no liscence to think, B*tch!

What are you lost in Japan??
You obviously know nothing about it.

Let me givvvve you a few keywords: Quality, Precision, low protien diets, etc.
An eternity of reasons.

but your real problem is you needed a frigging microscope to even try to put a condom on that puny thing.

[Bongo]

Put your handbags AWAY!

Westie, go and powder your nose! Your petticoat is showing and your beard needs shaving.

[jlatino]

Once again throughly educated , and amused.

[Dr.Drew]

Does ANYONE even try to follow the rules for posting here...????

LOL, no...I don't think so!

[kurogane]

Westsan,
Speak for yourself, my man. Kurogane by name, kurogane by nature. I have never failed to elicit squeals of shocked delight from inter-racial newbies; or does that just make me gullible????
:)
Kurogane

[Bluedog]

Macroboy/researchboy has got a point with the member size on the pron videos.

I of course, being honourable, have never seen a pron video, but had I, I would have noticed that the average size _in_the_videos_ is much bigger in foreign films than in local japanese AV productions. In some of the foreign films, you could hang a flag off that thing, and in the local ones, um, how to say this? ... Let's just say I don't feel put to shame.

This means either that the local film directors don't go for the biggest size that they can get, or that is the biggest size available. I wondered if they specifically chose average sizes so that they audience doesn't feel intimidated. Er, that is, I would have been wondering, had I ever seen such a video.

Kurogane: They could have been screams of horror. Be sure to check the angle of the dangle, and call tech support if you have further enquiries.

[kurogane]

OUCH. OUCH. OUCH.

Serves me right for being cocky.

[Bluedog]

Ha. I didn't think you were being cocky though, well not in the figurative sense.

[macrojapan]

I really just want someone to give me a theory on condom production. Seriously consider the economics of making a condom that does not have a standard fit for your demographic.

It does not make sense, and since I know I have nothing to brag about I must assume the average Japanese Male is smaller in girth/width at least.

Macro

[Dr.Drew]

One thing is for sure...condoms here in Japan (like hamburgers, cars and chairs) are generally smaller than their American counterparts. That leads me to one conclusion...gaikokujin tallywhackers must be larger than the Japanese versions.

Would any brave gals care to confirm/deny this conclusion??

[spacegrrrl2012]

i'm still conducting research on this, but will say that the largest *and* smallest penises i've seen have been on white american men.
of course, i've seen more white american penises than any other kind of penises, so i have a much broader range of samples there. (but there are some japanese/asian samples in there)
i will say that my current (japanese) boyfriend has the perfect size _____. as big as it can be without being too big. (and yes, there is such a thing as too big.)
i haven't had the pleasure (or is it displeasure?) of experiencing the japanese condoms. i'm still in the states. what exactly makes it too small? just too tight all around? is it painful? just uncomfortable? very unsexy? perhaps market research has shown that the average japanese consumer prefers a snugger fit. i dunno.
i tend to agree with westsan's original theory. i have also read this other places.

[westsan]

You must be a _____ fanatic??

Let me change that to _____ afficianado!!



Post Edited (10-02-03 08:38)

[Bugboy]

I was just wondering the research method you used to gather information on _____ sizes (you mentioned that you saw a few)??

Did you actually go into changing rooms and asked the dudes there:
"Hey man, can i measure your _____ and examine it? it will only take a few seconds, it's for a research i am conducting at the moment!"

...or did you pay some guys? or did you gather information during some intimate moments?

-Just curious-

[Dr.Drew]

It would be nice if more women employed the healthy approach to research that Spacegrrrl has undertaken!!

[Bugboy]

...Westan does the same kind of experiments, you can get in "touch" with him if you want.....

[spacegrrrl2012]

the data that i'm using has all been gathered during "intimate moments" and is thus reflective of the erect _____.
i have seen several flacid penises of all races at hot springs and uh...other types of gatherings (i live in san francisco where public nudity is often encouraged during certain times of year.), but have discarded that data because i do not want to hold it against someone for being a "grower" not a "shower".

[Bugboy]

i like your dedication to your research. I assume you have devoted your life to science....i too, want to make a difference to the world.....i will undertake my own research on female patients...(don't tell my wife, she would not understand that it is for the good sake of science)


....good luck with your future research

[westsan]

thats funny bugboy.



I was just kidding Spacegirl.
I am just jealous that I could not participate in your research study. (*^_^*)

[Bugboy]

No unnecessary sarcasm westan thank you....

[smallworld]

I'm with Spacegrrl, I don't think there is a difference in size, at least not a big difference.

Granted, with Japanese (and other Asians) being smaller in stature and weight than blacks and caucasions, it's only logical that that will translate into smaller _____ sizes. But really, if Japanese average only a few centimetres shorter than westerners, does that mean that their penises (peni??) are a few centimetres shorter too? Don't think so, more like a few millimetres. Hardly noticable.

Good points about the condom size difference though. Believe it or not, I've heard that Japanese men also complain about condoms being too tight. Japanese men are notorious for hating condoms, could this be why? Maybe the condoms are like many other Japanese products- badly designed with little thought of actual ease of use or ergonomics. Or maybe the Japanese condom makers are as allergic to change as other companies here, and haven't realized that over the past few decades Japanese have been getting bigger. Makes sense that they're getting bigger EVERYWHERE, and that condoms that once used to provide a snug fit are now being stretched to the limit.
Have also heard that Japanese condoms don't have that little tip at the end for, umm, collection, and are designed to be tight at the opening but looser near the end. This design is supposed to hold everythng in and make it very hard to slip off and hard to, umm, leak if the umm, action should continue after, umm... Well, I've used up my umms but hopefully you get the idea.
This could be total BS because I've never used Japanese condoms, so if anyone has a little more, umm (whoops, there I go again), experience, then speak up.

Finally, Macroboy and Bluedog, yes- Japanese porns tend to feature average-looking men while US porns feature monster specimens. It's definately a reflection of differences in each country's porn industry rather than differences in size.
By the way, if you ever got tired of checking out the guys and tried actually looking at the women for once, you'd notice the same thing- US porn starlets are enhanced in every way possible, while the Japanese ladies are more average and normal.

[jean-genie]

with Smallworld and Spacegrrl. If only gaijin men would get over this "we have bigger dicks" fantasy, as fantasy it is. Can't say that there is a lot of difference in it. A lot of it comes down to general height and build. The biggest ones I've "experienced" belonged to a Frenchman, Englishman and American all of whom were well over and I mean well over 6 foot. The smallest to an American and an Israeli. I've yet to see a tidler in Japan.....average size and slightly above (but I do usually go for tall men as I'm tall myself) Very happy with current appendage. (Can't actually believe I've just written this)

[jguylover]

It really seems to me that the question itself is dumb. _____ size has nothing to do with the pleasure a girl (or guy) gets from sex. I've had big, I've had small, and the best is simply the person who fits your sexual style. Can everyone at least agree on that?

[Coin-Operated-Clown]

jean-genie wrote:

"If only gaijin men would get over this "we have bigger dicks" fantasy, as fantasy it is."

Whether it's fantasy or not, the group that NEEDS to get over it is Japanese men. Certainly, no group works harder to propagate and reinforce the myth/fact. I've lost count of the times virtual strangers [J-men] have ribbed me at bars or izakayas over how I must be very popular with the Japanese girls becuase I'm presumably so "ooki". And the next drunk salaryman who hilariously grabs at my (not very) ooki ____ is going to be getting the rough edge of my tongue, if you know what I mean.

I wouldn't say my _____ is anything special 'sizewise', certainly it isn't something I expect to be showing my grandchildren.

[smallworld]

Jguylover,
True enough, but it's a subject that continues to fascinate. And in some cases, size DOES matter. Not in the way most people think, though- I've never been with a guy who was too small, but there have been a few guys who were just too big. Ouch! There's no way those things can bring pleasure!

COC, I've heard so many foreign guys complain about this. Being female I try to avoid drunken salarymen as much as possible, so I've never had to put up with this. But I have been bothered by a few drunks with 'You must hate me because I'm a yellow monkey' type stuff. Obviously a lot of guys still have major inferiority complexes and I'm sure the size-related ribbing and grabbing is just a part of that.

But I wish foreign guys would be able to dismiss the _____ size stuff as a bunch of crap- I mean, those drunken salarymen must say a lot of dumb stuff, right?

This kind of reminds me of the book 'Black Like Me'. I may be remembering wrong because I read it a LONG time ago, but I seem to recall that the author experienced similar stuff when he traveled the south as a black man. White men, assuming that blacks are all virile and well-endowed and sexually superior, would feel free to discuss graphicly sexual topics with him, even when they'd just met.
Sounds like those guys had similar complexes to the nasty salarymen you encounter.

[Dr.Drew]

In Japan, I have finally come to understand (at least a bit) what it must be like to be a Black man in the US. Why? Because...


1) Old men hate you and think you want to steal and thus "taint" their young women.
2) Everyone assumes you are hung like a mule (not necessarily a bad thing!!)
3) Cops feel free to question you and demand your ID without probable cause.
4) Some gals are your friends only because you are a "cool accessory" for them
to show off, but they would never actually want to marry you or have a real
heart-to-heart conversation.

We are all Black Men now...

[westsan]

My Black friend once told me "What if your Black and it is not 'bigger'?? Can you imagine the resulting depression???"

[monkey]

i met one day one odjisan,
very old,
in the lamen shop
he were staring at me
too much....
he were drunk i think.
suddendly he said"oookki ne"
"Nagai desu ka?"
pointing my _____
i were thioto confused
i sais to him "futsu desu"
he gave me a smile while living the place
whispering"oookkii ka na?"
bikulishimashita

[Bugboy]

kawaiso dane!
have you ever been to "onsen"? you will be cho bikkuri i can tell you that!
The first time i went there, all the guys were staring at my _____...as if they were looking for the meaning of life!!

Aaahh such a cruel world!

[Dr.Drew]

Bugboy, the next time that happens, you should just start doing some really fast jumping-jacks!! The faster, the better, as your "tally-whacker" should get a good bounce to it!! That would either confuse the hell out of them or shame them into looking away...

[westsan]

I guess we should be asking:

""" Is there a psychological FALL-BACK from the Exaggerated Gaijin _____ Size?? """


pee-pee and I are feeling mighty small these days.(^_^.)

[JMB]

Damn... you guys have had me bustin' a nut laughing here....

Dr. Drew... some people of color would take offense at what you wrote. I don't. I know that is the culture shock that sends so many white westerners running home to mommy. They can't being the minority and being discriminated against. And in that way... I wish more white people would come to Japan and gain the knowledge you have... whiet America REALLY needs it...

[Bluedog]

Goddamn it, will anybody who still needs education on this subject please enrol in my Wednesday afternoon class "_____ 101: A structural approach" We'll cover subjects such as reinforcements for aging members and the physics of how to keep such a huge mass up in the air without resorting to steel braces and pulleys. No exam will be required to pass, just an intimate interview to ascertain whether you have a good handle on the main concepts or not.

[Kent Brockman]

Look. That pump is for my bicycle because I have a big Chopper. It has glitter on the saddle.

>>>>>*sigh*. I will be there anyway<<<<<

((((((Have yet to decide which pseudonym I will be enrolling under... Brown Sugar Ray Reardon/Maxwell Smart Alec Guinness/ Bobby Charlton Heston))))


ROGER GASCOIGNE!!




... SELWYN F___ING TOOGOOD!!

"THE MONEY OR THE BAG, GORE???????"

[Shan]

So if the bigger _____ size is a myth, how about the female breast size? I've had lots of Japanese girls (albeit young drunk ones rather than drunk obasan) grab my mammaries without warning, and certainly without asking if they could, screaming, "Iiiiii neeeeeee! Urayamashiiiiiiiii!" From my observation in locker rooms, the difference in size is NOT a myth.

[Bluedog]

My wife is shocking. When she sees huge boobs, she doesn't call out, but whispers "do you think she'll mind if I squeeze them?"I always answer, probably, but not as much as she'll mind if I do.

[Dr.Drew]

Shan said it:

Anyone who actually goes to an Onsen can tell you, western folks (both men and women) ARE generally bigger in the body-size department, to include sex organs. There is nothing racist about that, it's just the reality.

Western women usually have bigger boobs than Japanese. Not always, but generally.

Western men usually have bigger, longer penises than Japanese. That's the reality.

Don't mean to offend anyone, BTW. Just observations...

[imTony]

fair enough

but some women will tell you that when it matters, the size in males is not very significant.

just trying to tell both sides.

[Shan]

I agree- a guy's size doesn't matter, except I think there is such a thing as too BIG. Nobody wants to be in pain during intimate moments!
I remember my first trip to an onsen with Japanese coworkers. I think lots of Japanese women look good in clothes, being as slim as most of them are. I had a huge shock seeing my female co-workers naked the first time, as I just didn't think that adult women had such small breasts and flat derrieres. Not all women do (I've seen a few exceptions in the gym locker room) but for the first time in my life, I was glad the women in my family are endowed in the "rear area." My sister, however, was worried everyone was watching her "jiggle" while running on the treadmill when we went to the gym while she was visiting. I thought it was cute. :-)

[Dr.Drew]

OK, Shan....I'm sure I'm speaking for many guys on this forum, but do you have any photos?? :)

(Not from the Onsen, I mean...just of yourself in daily life pose, etc.)

[Shan]

Well, not quite as endowed as JLo, but...

[Dr.Drew]

Actually, it's funny....

Jlo has her fabled derriere (and it's really quite a thing of beauty), but has anyone ever noticed she is like flat as a board??

Props to her for keeping her real boobs intact!!

[smallworld]

> Jlo has her fabled derriere (and it's really quite a thing of beauty), but has anyone ever noticed she is like flat as a board??
Props to her for keeping her real boobs intact!!

Yeah, she's annoying as hell but she's cool for being a kind of anti-Pamela Anderson. Beautiful, sexy, and real.

By the way, I heard somewhere that Brazilians love the small boobs/big butt figure (considering moving there...).

[Backwardsfish]

The condoms here are kinda small.... I thought maybe it was a lack of natural resources (no punn intended.)

[kurogane]

ATTN: recent ethnographic data confirms the hypothesis

After a (very) long hiatus, recent research activity, in particular, participant observational data, confirms the popular myth, at least at the level of statistical average. Squeals of shocked delight, followed by post-facto Native Exegesis lead this researcher to believe that white males are bigger in the anarctic regions than their native counterparts. But as the old saying goes, 'tis a poor craftsman that blames his tool(s).

Further reports to follow, we hope.

[Shan]

As for the "sqeals of delight," haven't you ever heard Japanese people say "Nihongo ga jouzu desu ne," or "Hashi ga jouzu desu ne" to someone who can utter only "Konnichiwa" or manages to manipulate his chopsticks without dropping most of his meal all over his pants? Might be the same principal at work here-flatter the other guy to make him feel good. And Japanese people squeal in delight at pandas in the zoo too, which is what a lot of us are like here in Japan. Do you really believe everything Japanese people tell you? I've found that the few Japanese friends I have who have dropped their "tatemae" with me can be harsher than my western friends.

Don't mean to burst your bubble, Kurogane, but we all know that Japanese people are pretty good at flattering their fellow man. My nose and chest get that kind of reaction too...

[shikoku kid]

My friends are white and I am white and we all have different sizes. Also Mike Tyson is a pretty big guy and has a small _____---go figure!!

[Shan]

Have you seen Mike Tyson's?

[April]

I came across this info from http://www.the-_____.com/size.html
========
The ethnographic record....[has] numerous anatomical distinctions...These include the placement of female genitals (Orientals front and high; blacks back and low); angle and texture of erection (Orientals parallel to body and stiff, blacks at right angles to body and flexible); ....muscularity (Orientals least, blacks most); and size of genitalia (Orientals smallest, blacks largest). We averaged the ethnographic data on erect _____ and found the averages to be approximately:
Orientals, 4 to 5.5 inches in length and 1.25 inches in diameter;
Caucasians, 5.5 to 6 inches in length and 1.5 inches in diameter;
blacks, 6.25 to 8 inches in length and 2 inches in diameter.
Women were proportionate to men, with Orientals having smaller vaginas and blacks larger ones, relative to Caucasians. Variations were noted: in French West Indies, the size of the _____ and vagina varied with the amount of black admixture [genetic mixing]: Arab men, who were often mixed with black, had larger penises than Europeans. Recent data show similar patterns.
Measurements taken from living subjects as well as those at autopsy, show the size of testicles is twofold lower in Asian men than Europeans (9 grams versus 21 grams), a difference too large to be accounted for entirely in terms of body size....

=========
I suggest reading the rest of the write-up about size and race because it's very interesting!

[Kent Brockman]

Does the write-up mention how I should go about weighing my bollocks?

Also, if (while fumbling with the bathroom scales) the wife bursts in.. how do I explain my apparent molestation of said measuring instrument?

[April]

Surely she knows you well enough by now to not even think twice about your odd behaviour! ;-)

[Kent Brockman]

A 10 year barrage of tasteless attempts at humour interspersed with nihilistic cynicism lambasting her homeland is one thing...

Alibi: "April from the internet said my front-bottom-front-bag should weigh 21 grams and that I better check it for her... uhh.. can you hold this thingy out of the way?"

[Bluedog]

Kent, what are you doing with bathroom scales? There's an easier way... assume that the elasticity of the sack is the same for everybody and then measure the sag. If the sack elasticity is linear, you can directly convert the sag factor into weight.

Of course, this means that instead of defiling the bathroom scales, you'll have to visit an onsen or two with a ruler in hand to measure the average stretch of the Japanese guys, but c'mon, anything worth doing is worth doing right.

"Mike Tyson is a pretty big guy and has a small _____"

Yeah but nobody's been brave enough to tell him yet.

[smallworld]

April, I hope you don't believe everything you read on the internet!

The paragraph you quoted does indeed come from _____.com (just a few scrolls down for a _____ enlargement ad), and is adapted from an actual paper called 'Race Differences in Sexual Behavior: Testing an Evolutionary Hypothesis'. The paper is, of course, much longer than the paragraph, and strangely doesn't even contain the paragraph- it's a cut-and-paste mix of sentances found throughout the paper. Which is odd, since the _____.com author says he/she came accross the paragraph on the internet. Seems he created the paragraph himself, which strips him/her of any credibility (not that a nameless writer on a site called '_____.com' HAS any credibility).

Anyway, most of the 'facts' cited in the _____.com article come, via the 'Race' paper, from a French army surgeon's observations, NINETY years ago. One has to wonder why such an obscure source was repeatedly used.
One also has to wonder if this surgeon was observing live subjects or if his research was conducted during autopsy- the 'Race' paper doesn't specify. Also not specified were whether his _____-size conclusions were based on erect penisis or flacid ones. None of his measurements are cited, and there are no comments about his methods, so we're just left to wonder about how valid this surgeon's observations are.

We're also left to wonder how exactly he measured those all those vaginas. Since, as I'm sure you all know, a vagina is closed in its natural state, what exactly did he measure? Width? If so, he'd have to open it up. So did he stretch those vaginas out with a speculum to take those measurements? Or maybe he measured length, but then there's the problem of whether to measure in an aroused state, when the vaginal canal lenthens, or regular state. So maybe he measured the outer bits, in which case either he or the authors of the paper somehow didn't know that the those outer bits are called the 'vulva'. You'd expect sexuality researchers to know the difference between a 'vulva' and a 'vagina', wouldn't you? Kind of makes you wonder if anything in this paper is based on sound scientific research.

Finally, the one source cited for actual measurements of erect penises is a 1979 study that gives a measurement of 6.15 inches for whites and 6.44 inches for blacks. No Asian (or 'Oriental', the word prefered by the authors of the 'Race' paper and _____.com article) measurement. Yet earlier in the paper was this:
'We averaged the ethnographic data on erect _____ and found the means to approximate: Orientals, 4 to 5.5 in. in length and 1.25 in. in diameter; Caucasians, 5.5 to 6 in. in length and 1.5 in. in diameter; blacks, 6.25 to 8 in. in length and 2 in. in diameter'. No specific sources given given for this 'ethnographic data', and the measurements for whites differ from the 1979 study. How can both sets of measurements be accepted by these authors when they contradict each other?

In short, the _____.com excerpt consists of a few highlights from a flawed paper that was based on flawed research. Don't believe it!

[markosonlines]

Let's online survey!!!

[April]

Rest assured Smallworld, I'm not a gullible dimwit. I posted the article due to it’s relevance to the topic thought it was interesting. That's all.


Hey did anyone else visualise the autopsy where they're chopping off and weighing the dead guy's balls?? Funny *and* gross at the same time!

And yes please boys - I'm waiting for responses to marksonlines survey suggestion!

[Shan]

Gentlemen: the answer to your problems...

http://news.japantoday.com/e/?content=product&id=619

[Anonymous]

I have never laughed so hard at a thread here!

OK, so I bought some Japanese condoms to send back home because they had cartoon characters in 'em (God bless the 100 Yen Shop) so now I am gunna have a look.

Hold On............

Oh my, that's quite unfortunate. Gee, do you think that explains why women are such 2nd class citizens here? Because men feel inferior so they work to keep women in their place?


But here's my question. During frosh week in university we had the condom games. We had to put them over our heads, and it can be done. My condom games team even made it to the condom finals when we poured EIGHT pitchers of water into one condom. (Hold on, I have to have another look at the wee thing)

Weird....although it does have a resivour (sp?) tip for *ahem* collection.

And, btw, yes, I am worried that someone is watching my arse or other thins jiggle while I run on the treadmill too!

[Shan]

Jock strap, Donnie. :-) I'm thinking of inventing a "sports bra for the butt" for women.

[kurogane]

THIS REPORT JUST IN

Following Shan's incisive if somewhat peevish deconstruction of my research findings from two weeks ago, I reflected upon my earlier findings; I may have been premature in, err, let's just call it my conclusion (well, it had been a rather long time). Nonetheless, I have endeavoured to persevere, and have emerged from further intense participant observational experience to share my most recent findings:

- at the level of statistical average, I stand behind my conclusions. I have a _____ that is ever so big. No, really. ("Oh, pleez tell me it is. I'll do anything for you if you tell me it is")This irrefutable conclusion is based on long-term, intensive fieldwork with numerous informants at both the 'tatemae' levels, and those nether regions beyond that (Shan's comments on the frankness of friends following the passing of tatemae being most incisive).
My latest fieldwork afforded me the valuable opportunity to conduct intensive group-based research. Both informants were most emphatic at my largesse, and both agreed that they had never seen anything quite like it ever, ever, ever before. Both were in the same room at the same time, and in complete agreement. So there it is, people, more proof for the pudding.

Shan, care to eat crow?? :)

[Shan]

Two "informants" does not count as "intensive group based research." Sorry!

[kurogane]

You need to take some more of your silly pills, deary. I did enjoy your comments a few weeks ago, though. Very good points. But, really, some silly pills. This is, after all, a westsan thread.

:)

[jguylover]

maybe I can be the judge! having seen quite a lot of naked men in my time, I think I'm qualified. just send me your pic and I'll be glad to settle this once and for all! hee hee....

[kurogane]

Thanks for that lovely suggestion, but NYET. The sad truth might be bared, and, I do believe that would contravene certain laws in this otherwise liberal land. :) ;)

Besides, mystery is more sexy, anyway, isn't it.
:)

[kurogane]

On second thought, I'll show you mine if you show me yours

Choo!

[jguylover]

yeah! but who goes first? (^_-)

[Dr.Drew]

"Ladies first" is the rule, ne?? :)

[Mahou]

Get a referee to make sure you both reveals at the same time.
Or even better, a judging panel. :P (Ready with stopwatch timer and the へえ〜 buzzer)

[jguylover]

Why be so shy? You can talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk? (^^)

[neogie]

My man is Japanese.. and he is perfect (Down There) And yes, I have dated western b4 back at home, from (Down Under!) I have to say, my little japanese boy is small all round except in one area! So.. is he gifted? You tell me Westsan!

[Dr.Drew]

jguylover, you are the life and soul of this message board!

[kurogane]

Quel Fun :> :>

BUT, I am still going with mystery over revelation. Besides, I really do think that sending such material is illegal. Remember, in order to reproduce the highly charged atmosphere of the ethnographic situation, I would have to have a Raging Boner, representing my heightened state of Erotic Readiness. This involves two problems:
1) masturbation; as we know, uptight Protestant boys do no such thing :>
2) contravention of domestic obscenity laws; :<
Furthermore, outwith such a heightened state of readiness, said object is the size and texture of a baby's soother. Much more comfortable when walking around, and apparently quite Cute in its own right, but hardly overwhelming anthropological data ;>

Trip Hop, any comments, advice on the legality issue?

[sul]

All this crap and macho posturing about _____ size is so boring and stupid! Do guys know that actually women don't care about _____ size, only guys care about it? That's right -- the only people in the world who give a damn about _____ sizes are men! To be honest (and I could be wrong) but I think that deep down women don't care too much about sex, at least not in the way that men care about it. Maybe they see it as way of getting close to a guy that they like. But if a woman really liked a guy and then she discovered that he had a small phallus, I can't imagine that she would immediately drop him for that reason alone. Maybe I am wrong -- but I think that women are more complex than the _____-obsessed guys who typically frequent sites like this!

That is not to say that I have the slightest idea of how women think or behave. It's a complete enigma to me! But still, there is something in women so beautiful and seductive, you would give up everything to be with them! But when you were finally with them, I don't think they would judge you too harshly on your _____ size.

[jguylover]

kurogane, you disapoint me!! I had my pics all ready to send, and you back out. Oh well, my offer still holds, if you change your mind! (^_-)

sul,
What do you mean, women don't think about sex in that way?? Have you not read ANY of my posts? I don't think I'm exceptional, as I have plenty of horny female friends, all we seem to talk about is the cute guys we've seduced/have plans to seduce. In reality, it's men who don't seem to WANT to believe that women are sexual beings...they seem to prefer us up on pedestals, in gowns of white, surrounded by flying doves. (or whatever bird represents virgins.) LOL!!

but you are right that we don't care about _____ size, it's the motion of the ocean, as they say!!

[Bluedog]

"motion of the ocean, as they say!!"

I thought it was the throb of the knob that did the job.

[doronjyo]

Personally from my experience I would have to say the average Japanese male has a smaller _____ than their western counterparts. My wifes mother owns a public bath and the house is above. I have worked there from time to time when the mother in law has been away on a trip therefore I have seen a lot wether I wanted to or not andthey just don't measure up. Many Japanese men will even admit this fact. As for the condom size being different I am sure most of them could wear an American condom but it would probably make them feel smaller and a bit embarrased to have so much slack in it.

[ILS]

well...I'm female but I DO care about _____ size... I am just trying to hook up a cute guy who has a really big one(^.-) The bigger,the better MORE THAN ANYTHING!! At least that's how I think!!

[Backwardsfish]

Applications being taken for big gaijin _____ swallower.

[U99A]

I swallow and I like it.

[Ney]

im 12 inch and i appreciate my sizwe

[Backwardsfish]

Swallow not really necessary, but the positive attitude is definetely what counts!

Again, applications always being accepted at below website.

[kurogane]

jguylover,

So sorry to disappoint you beautiful, but He who brags and runs away, lives to keep his job another day.

sul, U do realise that:
A) we are just goofing around (you earnestly pedantic git);
B) you just participated in a rather lengthy and sickeningly sycophantic way in the very discussion that you first so roundly condemned

Does this mean that sul has _____ envy??
Tomoko, Westie, JGL, ????

Please limit all answers to a single sided piece of foolscap (which, coincidentally, is the length of my foolscap ;)

[jguylover]

well, I think we should start a new thread, "do gaijin women have bigger clits?" (^_-)

[kurogane]

There is no debate there. Except for the occasional Bulbous native variety, Yess, definitely. But again, proportion and body size still explains most of it, as the Intelligent People here (esp. U and Me, sweety) have already established, n'est pas?

On the other hand, Do Japanese Women have proportionately Larger and Harder Nipples??

Kurogane says YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Never had my young, tender Canadian eyes seen such massive nipple boners before I hit these fair shores, back in the heady days of Showa. The economy was not the only thing bubbling, and Whilst providing spiritual transportation to my sweetheart (i.e. her on top), I thought my eyes would surely be pierced by those large and eminently manipulable protusions. AAAHHH, the sweet memories of youth.

JguyL, whaddya think?

PS I checked it out. I was right about the illegality of mailing you (in any form) a photo of my erect member. Phew! Saved by the Law!!!!!!! (^_-)
XOX

[sul]

If I seem pedantic, is that the real me? How can you judge someone from a short post on the Internet -- if you saw me face to face, you might get a different impression. Earlier today somebody called me a "a typical American" -- even though I am not American! How can you make such instant assumptions about people you have never met? The funny thing is, if you met the people that you hate on the Net, you might suddenly find yourself becoming the best of friends. The Forum style of communication is so minimalistic, it is easy for people to get a wrong impression of the other person, and to take offence. When I meet people in real life, they usually seem to like me. Not so on this forum!

Anyway, for what is worth, I just find the _____ obsession boring. I have heard all the jokes before. And the jokes are not classy -- unless they are coming from a gay man, who can pull it off with camp humour. If penises were as important to women as they are to men, all the women of the west would be looking for mail-order husbands in Africa.



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[Bluedog]

"coincidentally, is the length of my foolscap ;)"

Kurogane, be kind. There are more humane ways to cap fools than beating them to death with a... well, with a foolscapper.

And what's this about the illegality of mailing an erect member? Sounds like an excuse to me. Still, just to be sure, I'll refrain from posting a picture of my foolscapper too. Fools whimper at the sight of it, but I'm not sure that officer friendly will be impressed when he intercepts my mail.

[Code Rot]

I like your thinking, Sul. Imagine if we all met in person -- who knows, romances could flower! Let's organise the inaugural GaijinPot Barbeque, to be held on the banks of the beautiful Tokyo Bay -- featuring ribs, rice, Jinro, beer -- the works! It would be fun to see what some of the people on this forum look like. And in the conversations that follow, I am sure it would be totally civil. No bitching and backstabbing. Old grievances could be settled. And new alliances could be sealed. Let's do it!

[Dr.Drew]

Actually, I do think that Gaijin women generally have larger breasts and genitalia than their Japanese sisters...as one who has been with both intimately, I can verify that for sure.

[kurogane]

SUL,

If U is bored of us, U could just GO THE F'CK AWAY, ya know. No offence intended, of course.

I do agree with you about the perils of anonymity, though. Get a sense of humour, friend.