Why do Gaijin women in Jp dress up like a member of Pearl Ja

[gaijinmale]

OK ladies I know you are going to hit me like a cannonball on this one. But I need to know the answers to these questions.
*Why do Gaijin women in Jp dress up like a member of Pearl Jam in the 90's.? Grunge is not in fasion, AX jeans maybe but I'm not seeing you wear them.
*Why is the hair so nappy? I see one in ten that look like they actually know what a hair brush is, and I'm not talking about the girl that spends an hour or more making her hair look like she had two hours of great sex and ran for the train. I mean nappy.
* Make-up, Where is it?
I go to the states often and women there are taking care of the way they look.
*Why did you give up trying to look good here? No one to impress?
There are no trailer parks here. Why dress like ya live in one?!
This is a personal opinion and damit I want some answers. "WHY?"
Ladies if you would just put on a little you would look so much better than the locals.
Disclaimer:
If your part of the 10% of women I see that take pirde in looking good this thread isn't about you.
Bombs away!!!!

Westan, cool your jets man! I want to hear from the ladies first.

[Васи]

We are beautiful without make-up :)

[skoolgirlpunk]

okay before I let my speculations on this matter free reign, a few specifics please...

- Which age group in particular are you referring to?

- Which area's are referring to? Roppongi? Shibuya? the sticks?

- Do you usually see these haggard women during the daytime? at night?

- Are they anonymous wenches in the street? people you work with? seen at a supermarket?

The relevance of all this being that in the women's book of rules, there are times that you bother and times that you don't. So in order to verify that women here really just let themselves go as opposed to you just happening to see them in times that they have deemed are "dont bother", I require more detailed information.

[EW]

"There are no trailer parks here. Why dress like ya live in one?!"

ROTFLMAO!!!

[AV]

Because we are lazy?...
My boyfriend is away, the chances of running into someone I know are one in a million and no matter how much time I spend in front of the mirror I am still going to be another weird looking gaijin for the majority of people here. So why bother?
Plus, let me tell ya, being a good-looking gaijin woman in Japan ain't easy. I had one guy literally drop his jaw as he was looking at me. Some smile and try to make eye-contact. Turning around to get a better look of my front as they speed pass me is almost a norm.... The women examine you with just as much rigor.
Sometimes you just want to blend with the environment and the "trailer" look is the simpliest way to do it. Back home, I'd think twice about it. Here - who cares!

AV



Post Edited (10-27-03 03:00)

[Keenie84]

Yes, well, there's a lot more that can be said about gaijin males. Why do all the ugly ones go over to Japan? Is it because they can't get a date in their own countires?

Just kidding.

Who knows why we dress like we do? And who says women don't like dressing like this?

[Bongo]

"You can take the girl out of the trailer park but you can't take the trailerpark outta the girl"

Japanese girls do make a lot of effort, and keeping up must be hard work. Is it that Western gals can't be bothered? Or that Jgirls are spending every other moment checking how blinging they are?

Also, I think there's less of an audience. I get the impression that a lot of Western girls just give up hope of attracting men who are swarming around Jgirls in furry jackets and short skirts.

[AV]

>Also, I think there's less of an audience. I get the impression that a lot of Western girls >just give up hope of attracting men who are swarming around Jgirls in furry jackets and >short skirts.

Are you talking about Gaijin guys? Ha! Who needs them here ;)

[gaijingirl]

I dont know if I can answer that question...because I myself always tried to look nice while in Japan. I felt out of place if I didnt. Ive often wondered why women back home dont dress up more....but I guess the thing is that a lot of Japanese women really dress up. I mean, its skirts and high heals all the time. I kinda like that...and I do that a lot now, even though Im in the states. I get a lot of "you are always dressed up!" In my mind, I think, "I just lived in Japan too long!" (really it was less than a year!) Anyway, I wanted to dress up in Japan so I would blend in more....if thats possible.

However, the realy point I want to make is, yes, maybe a lot of Gaijin women dont dress up....but how many gaijin men did I see that I thought looked real fine? None that come to mind. Why not? I dont know. Maybe that is why Im attracted to Japanese men. You gaijin men say their women look better, I say so do their men!

[the dude]

Gaijinmale,

Change social circles (if they let you in that is) and you'll see that NOT all gaijin women dress that way. Example: I boxed for 12yrs, and for the longest time I wondered why all athletes are uptight pricks that always talk about fighting. They don't. It was just that group of people. I fin. my master's at one of the top 5 universities in Japan & often wondered why Japanese students, and foreign exchange students are socially retarded nerds. Again, they're not, but hanging out w/ a particular group of people can lead you to think that everyone is that way. Change your surroundings and you'll find out how big the world really is.

[Welesley]

I have to ask this question because it has not been raised. Who are you refering to when you say "gaijingirls"? Only white ones? Only Western ones? Would you know a Chinese, Korean, Thai girl? You should remember that Western gaijins are the minority here and the minority of "gaijin" in Japan. I see many women who are not Japanese who look like they take as much or more time to make up than the Japanese women do.

[smallworld]

Gaijinmale,

I think Bongo made a very good point here:
'Japanese girls do make a lot of effort, and keeping up must be hard work. Is it that Western gals can't be bothered? Or that Jgirls are spending every other moment checking how blinging they are?'

It takes a LOT of effort to look as good as (most) Japanese girls. Researching the trends, buying a new wardrobe every season, visits to the este and hair salons, HOURS a day spent on hair, make-up and beauty routines.
This all takes time and money, and young women who live at home tend to have a lot of both. Gaijin women are usually here by themselves and are almost always too busy living to do all of that. You know, working, studying, cleaning, cooking and doing their own laundry (things many unmarried Japanese women seldom do), not to mention getting over culture shock and having to learn how to do everything in a new way. We also came over here with only a suitcase full of clothes and really can't afford to buy lots of new stuff. If we do have the money and time to shop finding things that fit can be a huge problem. And as our beauty products run out, it can be really really hard to find replacements here. The colours and formulas are all different!
So sometimes even if we WANT to look great we simply can't.

And then of course a lot of western women just don't care about looking good as much as Japanese women. I DO put effort into my appearance (with success, hopefully), but only up to a certain point. I don't make it my obsession. If I had two hours to spare I would much rather spend it reading a good book or cooking a fabulous meal for my husband than shopping or being fussed over in a salon.

And finally, I think a lot of western women do just give up, and it's understandable. No matter much we try, most of us will never be as petite, as cute, or as fashionable as we perceive Japanese women to be. I'm tall, and by no means overweight, but when I'm surrounded by gorgeous, graceful slender little beauties dressed to the nines, I can't help but feel big, fat, clumsy and dasai. Logicly, I know I'm not (and I've never felt like this back home), but I can't help feeling like that sometimes.
So it's no surprise at all that some women just give up. Why even try, when it's totally futile?

Anyway, you should be a bit more understanding of how much effort women put into looking good. You should appreciate us (both western AND Japanese women) more!

PS, what are AX jeans and why should I be wearing them?

[Welesley]

The other factor is cost. The Japanese girls have the time and more importantly the cash to do all of the things smallwrold said with the salons etc.

Ask how many of those Japanese girls are living on their own, most aren't.
Who paid for university? Parents
How much do they save per month ? 0 or very close to it.

Interesting research project for someone.

I want to do my MA in Japanese society and culture

[EW]

Thank you smallworld. Now we know why Gaijin chicks look so trashy. And you've all got great excuses!

So you'll understand when we share our lolipops with the dressed up girls!

[Bongo]

EW, you're harsh but fair.

Jgirl is a look. Gaijingirl is a state of mind.

Maybe Jgirls don't do the gaijingirl state of mind and Gaijingirls don't do the jgirl look.

[guyjin71]

*Why do Gaijin women in Jp dress up like a member of Pearl Jam in the 90's.?

I would have to say that these women came to Japan in the 90's and haven't been back to the US or wherever they came from since. It's hard to keep up on trends when you are not in the know.
just my 2 cents.

[smallworld]

EW,
'So you'll understand when we share our lolipops with the dressed up girls!'

I AM a dressed up girl, actually. But don't worry, I don't want your lolipop. I've taken to heart the wise old saying that goes: 'Never accept candy from big-headed, belligerent sleazeballs'. Or something like that.

[AV]

Guys, relax, who cares about your lollipops anyway. What strikes me about this thread is that you guys are upset about us not looking what you want. Well, it's the J-guy land.. you have fun with your J-girls.. and leave the J-guys to us... don't worry... they don't expect us to have the J-girl look - that's not what turns them on ;)

Intimidated by J-girls, are you kidding me??? The slanted-eyed, flat from any side, bow-legged J-girls??? Only 20% of them are actually cute and none can beat the gaijin girl on the shapes. Yeah, there are people with a taste for petite out there.. so many men, so many minds... As a middle-eastern joke goes, 95% of the men like women with shapes, the remaining 5% like women with bigger shapes. Of course you cannot beat the exotic appeal of the J-girls to the gaijin guys, but then do you really need to?...

Smallworld, the place where I work is overpopulated by Japanese women. They work eight hours a day, commute, and still look nice - no need to waste money and time, it's just the matter of knowing what works for you. The beauty products here are fun to experiment with, they do have more and better naturals then back home. I admit I imported all of my stuff first, but then the most expensive Japanese stuff you can only get in boutiques at home is sold for half the price here. Why not try? Some of the silly stuff, like packaged air from Swiss alps... common that's just a waste of money.

The hair is the only real issue. Gone is my designer hair-cut, welcome "the natural look" Anyone knows a place where they know how to cut soft wavy hair???



Post Edited (10-28-03 13:27)

[smallworld]

AV,
'The beauty products here are fun to experiment with, they do have more and better naturals then back home. I admit I imported all of my stuff first, but then the most expensive Japanese stuff you can only get in boutiques at home is sold for half the price here. Why not try?'
Don't think I ever said I HADN'T tried. What I wrote doesn't apply to me, I was just trying to give possible reasons why some foreign women don't look so great compared to their Japanese sisters.
After seven years here I've been able to find pretty much everything I need to look- and feel- good. (Was the expensive Japanese stuff you refered to Shiseido, by any chance? Most of that stuff is really harsh and I can't use it. The one thing I miss here is products for sensitive skin- it's still rare and pricey here)

I'm also not intimidated by Japanese girls, thank you very much. I'm confident and proud of my looks and style but sometimes I do feel like a giant, out of place fool. Just occasional insecurity, not indimidation or envy. I really don't by into that American 'Cosmo' philosophy that says women are all goddesses and should, with supreme confidence, expect the whole world to worship them. Sorry, that's just crap.

I happen to think all countries and cultures have beautiful women (and men), including Japan. Slender figures and looks that last well into middle age are great, especially compared to all the obese women (and men, again) in the west.

Your comments about Japanese women: 'The slanted-eyed, flat from any side, bow-legged J-girls???' are horribly racist and offensive. I can't believe you actually wrote that, and you fully deserve all the flames you are undoubtedly about to get. People like you give western women a bad name.

[AV]

Smallworld, yes I am a Cosmo girl.. Brand me all you like... it's better then being sour http://www.heartless-bitches.com

And no, I am not racist, I am simply not attracted to the majority J-girls, maybe only to some... The Lolita thing here does not work for me either, I like women with more "spice"That's my personal taste.

Shiseido works fine for me, but it's the rare and natural stuff that is fun to hunt for... when I want to be safe, I can always go with milk, honey, cucumbers, and raw eggs - works better then anything.

Seriously, you've been here for nine years, do you know where they can cut Western hair?

[the dude]

AV,

Dig your straight forward post. Would a hot western european girl and a california dude be your taste?

[Dr.Drew]

I'm surprised there aren't more Gaijin dudes who go for Gaijin gals...

Think about it; Gaijin women are used to being chased after by legions of horny guys back in their home (or just about any other) country. They get so many phone numbers that they could start their own local franchise phone directory!! (AT+TnA...??)

Suddenly, they come to Japan and it's "Charisma-Man" in reverse...the formely hot Gaijin Women are magically transformed into fat, bitchy feminists with bad 90's-era Pearl Jam fashion sense. Their compounding sexual frustration and paranoia over their looks/weight issues are reinforced daily by an unforgiving Japanese patriarchy. The Charisma Men, on the other hand, go from Dud to Stud overnight, racking up a steady stream of bow-legged, flat-chested sexual conquests...

Instead of chasing the Morning Musume clones, Gaijin guys should wise up and go for the Gaijin gals!! Talk about "ripe for the pickin'!!" Most Gaijin gals I know are dying for a jolly good rodgering. They sure as hell don't enjoy the forced celibacy that living in Japan seems to bring them! I'm sure that there must be some Richard Gere-type out there in Tokyo or Osaka who has figured that out by now...

[AV]

Dude, I've noticed you are desperate for a threesome. :D :D Maybe under different circumstances.... me ain't no cheater... I have a boyfriend. :o

[markosonlines]

Dr. Drew,

Your point is valid, but we don't come to Japan to eat hamburgers, fish and chips or meat pies. I want the local delicacies.

But, after 7 months I sure could do some chips.!!!

Markos

[smallworld]

AV, calling Japanese girls 'slanty-eyed' is racist in my book.

Yes, I know some good salons. Are you in Tokyo?

Dr. Drew,
Actually it's not really true that all foreign women in Japan are lonely. I think the ones who complain are the ones who end up in the country or smaller cities, and the ones who are a bit older.

I came to Tokyo at 22 and never had a loneliness problem. Quite the opposite, actually. Most of my female acquaintances and coworkers had the same experience. Other than Japanese men (many of whom are very open to non-Japanese women), there are men from all over the world, most of them young and single. Lots of them simply want to have fun with a willing partner and don't care about race or nationality. And since foreign single men vastly outnumber foreign single women, it can be just as much a paradise for us foreign girls as it is for you foreign guys.

And by the way, plenty of foreig guys are already onto your theory about desperate gaijin girls. They are usually rude and overbearing and often seemed shocked at being turned down. I really hate the assumtion that I'm desperate for a white man!

[Dr.Drew]

Hey, smallworld!

Cheers for your response...it's good to see people on this message board who actually enjoy debate and exchanging ideas.

I didn't intend to demean Gaijin women at all...I just wondered out loud about why more Gaijin guys don't go after them...after all, G-guys are always looking to get some action somewhere in Japan. Rude people are annoying, however, and should rightly be brushed off!!

Actually, country life is hard on G-dudes as well. No self-respecting J-girl will risk her reputation (yes, they still worry about that in the sticks) to even be seen on a date with some paleface, much less the chance of being caught with their nickers down!!

My sex life improved exponentially once I left the countryside for central Nagasaki (which is still pretty much a small-town, but not as bad as the "inaka".)

[swordfishtrombone]

I've known/worked with lots of Ggirls who were, in fact, desparate for a man (any, white, blue whatever). So I used to agree with the theory of the under-exploited G-girl market. But really those particular women would've been desparate anywhere. There are lots of G-girls making it work for themselves here. Esp. with all the G-guys fed up with J-girl nonsense or they hit them fresh out of Narita before they get, uh, assimilated to Charisma manness.

[AV]

smallworld, just because I critize Japanese women wyas and appearance does not mean I am a racist. The eye thing is a a matter of personal taste, to me many Japanese girls have unexpressive eyes.. and the one girl I know who does have beautiful catty eyes also has mm... rather unatractive legs, in addition to a totally doll-like demanor. The Japanese by the way, are not the only Asians. I once had a gorgeous girlfiend from Central Asia... she was soooo yammy sexy... I would have been in trouble if I hadn't known she was a frigid Soviet chick.

[AV]

Oh, our views on the J-girls aside, could you give me some info on those salons? I am not in Tokyo, but I can manage a trip for the sake of a good hair-cut. Do they speak English? How much should I expect to dish out?

[Shan]

The interesting thing about this post is that when I was in my home country (US) I was always told by women AND men friends that I was "too fussy" about my appearance, spending too much time and caring too much about makeup, my hair, and my clothes. I was teased a lot for that from the time when I was in elementary school and would only wear skirts, not pants, and NEVER sneakers like all the other kids, all the way through my teen years, and up into my twenties. Now I live in Japan where the gaijin men praise Japanese women for doing the same thing I was criticized for. Go figure!
I think many of the gaijin women who come to Japan are the "adventurous" type who don't always care about their appearances, which is why they are perceived as being "grungy." I have never thought of myself like that, but interestingly, the grungy women sometimes seem to get more men than me. Go figure again! The bottom line is, if you don't like those women, don't date them. If those women are happy with their appearances, then that's great. If they're not happy, then they should change them. I personally think designer brands are not necessary to look good. I've seen many a tacky Japanese girl wearing lots of expensive names; they don't bring class just by wearing them!
Lastly, I've always wondered what was up with the bow legs, and the knock-knees, and the pigeon toes. Why does this seem to be a national trait?

[Tokyoite]

To AV: I hear you on the hair issue. I had the same problem when I first came here. Then I discovered the STRAIGHT PERM. Sayonara "natural look," hello good hair every day. Yes it costs a bit, but you only have to get it done once or twice a year. Of course, you may not even want straight hair... in that case you can get a good cut from stylists who know how to cut white girls' hair at Who-Ga in Akasaka or Sinden in Gaienmae. Who-Ga is cheaper. They do straight perms, regular perms, color, and everything. You could expect to drop about 2 or 3 man yen there if you've having color or any kind of process done. They all speak English. Sinden (3 to 4 man?) employs foreign stylists too.



Post Edited (10-29-03 18:33)

[AV]

Tokyoite,

MANY MANY THANKS! Gee, I can't wait to get rid of the ponytail. My stylist back home once tried straightening up my hair with a blow-drier - I wore it for one day and realized this is not my dream look. I love my passion curls!!!

Let me make sure I got it right:
Wha-Ga New York,
Akasaka Building. 1F 2-16-13 Akasaka
Sin Den Hair&Make (hope they meant make-up ;o)
3-42-12 Jingu-mae, Shibuya-ku
There is also a Shingen Japon in Minato-ku...

Do you know someone in particular I can trust there? Like someone who knows curly hair changes its length when dried, etc. I just want a hair-cut, but it has to be a good one, so that there is minimum maintanance other then trimming. Here is approximately what I want, do you think they can manage?

http://www.buyfred.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=B&Category_Code =mlc2md2n46

http://www.buyfred.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=B&Product_Code= sd1n95&Category_Code=msc2sd1n95

[smallworld]

I second the vote for Who-ga. Mami does my straight perms but I cut my own hair so I can't say with absolute confidence that she's the woman for you. She does have lots of experience, speaks excellent English, and sports curly hair yourself.
She's also very cute, 'slanty' eyes and all...

[2paclives]

Hur hur - great thread, but I`m going to disappoint my brothers, black and white, who think im going to join in the trashing of foreigner women. Hey guys - look around! Maybe cos I don`t live in Tokyo (but I don`t live in inaka) I see plenty of gals and women, Japanese and foreign, who wear JEANS and SPORTS SHOES. Converse, adidas, new balance, anything.

Are we talking about these gals and women just going shopping or out for a night out? If its just shopping or daily stuff, most of the Japanese gals and women are dressed fine but casually. Casually. Neat casual, sometimes wearing stuff that is expensive but looks casual and daily. Wazz the problem here?

I really don`t see any foreigner gals and women who look so bad. Dammit - can`t grip on this thread! Maybe most posters here are posting from Tokyo but in other cities in Japan and in the kogai - look around. If it`s daily biz, not work and not a night out, most women in Japan look neat and casual. Sure there are cuties who dress up and dress up well to go shopping. But you can also see other cuties wearing jeans, t shirts, sweaters and sneakers/sports shoes.

They look fine to me! So do the foreigner gals and women if they`re clean and neat!

[merc007]

Hi, my 3 cents as a Gaijin girl. (not speaking on behalf of anyone)
Some of us would like to save our money as well as send money home. To spend lots of money on makeup & clothes, so we can get picked up isn't really practical. Maybe I'm just a practical type of gal. I dress up, during the week days or when I have to go out. It's true in Aussie-land we are more casual, because it doesn't matter how much make up you put on, if the guy appreciates what you look like naturally, well then we have a winner. :) I prefer gaijin guys as well (no offense to anyone) :)

[Shan]

I agree with you merc. If I have 50,000 to 100,000 yen to spare, I'd much rather take a trip to a country I've never visited than hit the nearest Louis Vuitton (or Gucci, Prada, Fendi, Burberry, etc.) store. I don't think you have to spend tons of money to look nice; some of the girls walking around with all their "brand-name stuff" look downright tacky and overly made-up, in my opinion. And some of the Japanese guys here don't seem to mind us gaijin gals with our horrible fashion sense. :-) Could it be the "Charisma Gal" phenomenon? Or perhaps we could call her "Oppai Girl," because in Japan, most of us really ARE two bra sizes bigger than back home! I wonder what happened to gaijinmale that caused him to have such bad feelings towards gaijin women?

[imTony]

Shan wrote:

"I wonder what happened to gaijinmale that caused him to have such bad feelings towards gaijin women?"

Feminism. ; )

teasing...

It's all just more basing people on generalizations. Silly, I know. But it isn't me who's the charisma man...

[Dr.Drew]

I must agree with Shan...I'm always shocked when I see a really nice, full pair of breasts. Very "natsukashiiiiiiiiiiii!!!"

That is one thing (or, perhaps, two things? ;) Lol...) that Gaijin gals have over the J-Gals for sure...

[Bluedog]

"Oppai Girl" sounds like the name of a great manga, or anime. She could be the arch-nemesis of Charisma man, the two of them dueling in a battle of ego. There would, of course be multiple opportunities for size comparisons with Charisma man's lollipop hopelessly outweighed by the sheer momentum of Oppai girl's oppai. Cue the slow-mo shot... (Baywatch anyone?)

[samantha]

Dress like pearl Jam??????????????

I have No idea what you are on about....I see gaijin girls all the time and they are always dressed nice.....in fact, most of the time they are dressed REALLY nice!! Perhaps you are having visions of an old girlfriend? Or is it those Japanese dressed in those stupid gothic costumes?
To date, (well in the 5 years that I've been here), I don't recall seeing anyway with nappy(??) hair (except coming from the gym pool maybe)
****(Trailer parks??) You definately need to expand on what a trailer park girl looks like.....cause I aint seen any in Japan yet....

***(We don't look like girls in the states)...well, I can't fight that one cause I've never been to the states, but I know where I'm from (Australia) we don't have girls walking down the street in the middle of the day in stiletos, makeup, minis and padded bras (well not during the day anyway...we save that for night)
***(Nobody to impress?) First of all, who says we need to impress anyone? Most of us are confident in ourselves and don't need to spend hours everyday getting ready.
***(looking better than the locals? )Who says that there is any competition?

First of all, Comparing the Japanese girls (who've spent 2 hours getting ready in the morning) to a regular gaijin girl who has spent 20 minutes is a different kettle of fish.
Most of us don't spend hours in the mirror every morning, curling and fluffing every strand of hair, only to re-do, re-do and re-do it at every opportunity. Like a regular day in the local cafe for a Japanese. Yeah, sitting there with a cordless curling iron and curling every strand of hair (which might I say is already perfect). Then checking the lipgloss (with the Chanel mirror). And checking again. Heaven forbid, checking again! OOHH, the feet hurt as well......it's those 5 inch pumps digging into the heels...... gotta check that push up bra......whoops....a pads out of place.....check the mini......STOP!!!! Men looking over......giggle, giggle......flick of the hair........damn.....messed it up again.....pull out the curling iron again.....check lippie.....redo mascara.........okay...free to flick those tresses again......................

PPLLLEAASSEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those girls are so insecure that they have to dress up like that...buy those LV bags etc....Most of the gaijin women in Japan are confident enough to be make up free, wear flat shoes daily (even if they only go to a cafe!!), wear jeans (yes believe it or not, all of the people I know have trendy jeans) and have less than perfect hair. We save those dress up sessions for after dark, complete with make up and mini dress. Besides, the main reason those girls get dressed up so much is to attract guys-something us women don't have to do....with or without makeup. Heaven forbid, most of us get so much attention without makeup; imagine what's it's like when we do dress up!!
Imagine wearing heals, a mini and make up so thick you could scrape it off your face back home?

On another note, What about the gaijin guys? Why is it that the dorkiest, geekiest losers come to Japan? Let's face it....there is a good topic!! For the 1% of you that have style, class and a sense of humour, I applaud you!!! (yes in every 100 guys I see there's about 1-2 that I would think about going out with)
Where are all the cute guys? Oh, silly me......the cute ones have real lifes back home, have a girlfriend, friends, a good job.....the ones in Japan (again 99% only) come to Japan for the sex, money (what money??), parties, sex again, oh and sex again.....what a great life!! Silly schoolgirls falling at your feet, oh and more sex.......(or should it be f*cking? Most of you don't love any of these girls)
Which is why you rarely see gaijin guys with gaijin girls (unless they've come here together)
C'mon, gaijinmale......trot off and find a real girl.......hang on...what am I talking about? The real girls wouldn't take a second look at you (except for perhaps that little laugh inside and the whisper of geek under our breath)

[smallworld]

"On another note, What about the gaijin guys? Why is it that the dorkiest, geekiest losers come to Japan? Let's face it....there is a good topic!!"

Yeah, GOOD topic! So good that 14 billion people have already commented on it! But please, carry on- we never get tired of sweeping generalizations that insult entire groups of people!

Can't WAIT to hear more...

[samantha]

Smallworld,
are you saying that it's okay to slam gaijin girls but the moment that the guys get slammed.....well then the sh*t hits the fan!!! In case you didn't read properly, I'm not saying that ALL the guys in Japan are like that....but the majority are. Gee, there are even a few that have real marriages and families with Japanese women.
And has anybody ever noticed how 99% of the guys here dress (or lets say the lack of dress sense)?



Post Edited (11-19-03 16:19)

[smallworld]

"And has anybody ever noticed how 99% of the guys here dress (or lets say the lack of dress sense)?"
Ummm, yeah. Which is why someone started a thread on it just a few days ago. I think the general consensus was that it's better to dress down and be style-impaired than to be a vain effeminate fashion victim like many Japanese guys are. Funny, that's pretty much what you were saying about foreign girls.

[samantha]

Perhaps I'm not being specific enough-I was never a good essay writer!! No, I'm not saying that the guys have to dress up to the nines, just like I said that about the girls. What the writer has said is that the gaijin girls don't wear makeup, have their hair styled etc.....he's definately gone overboard with that though, cause I've never seen any girls with really scruffy hair or clothes.
What I HAVE seen are girls with trendy pants/jeans, tops and flat shoes. No makeup and no 2 hour hairstyle. They look casual, but trendy.
I see so many guys with ripped jeans, filthy sneakers, scruffy hair and faded shirts. I'm not saying to dress up in a suit, but I am saying that the dress sense is far from casual. Perhaps the writer should have directed his thoughts toward the male sex (or to be fair, to both sexes)



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[markosonlines]

Samantha,

Maybe you should have read folk's responses to the original poster before you let all that pent up jealousy spew from your cakehole. Many folks, g-guys inclusive, here have questioned the original posters stance. You are coming across as the classic bitter g-girl mole, a 1% online sterotype, like the g-guys you spoke of. You're perfectly entitled to defend yourself against the original posters stance, but how does denigrating 99% of g-guys, and j-girls, come into it?

If you think that the **** only hits the fan when g-guys are ridiculed then you must be very new to this forum. The guys get as good as they give, and so they should.

Markos

[Bluedog]

"****(Trailer parks??) You definately need to expand on what a trailer park girl looks like.....cause I aint seen any in Japan yet..."

I'm getting a strong sense of DeJa Vovo on reading this. Wasn't it Brockman who said "This is a gun, that was your foot"

[shikoku kid]

Totally agree with the dude. I think you're maybe tarring some people with the same brush. As in "All scottish people are tight with money", "All french people are snobs", etc etc. I've met some Japanese girls who don't give a flying f##k about appearences and some gaijin girls who spend hours getting ready. Remember all people are different.

[gaijinmale]

I'm BACKKKK! I put the computer away and went outside to enjoy Tokyo for a while. I had a great laugh reading the post you women put on my thread. I love you all...Even if you dress funny!
Trailer parks.... I had the displeasure of living in one for six munths during a movie shoot in Idaho. Yes it's true what they say about "trailer park trash".
I hear the vodka bar calling me, I got to put on my duds and meet my honey.
ttyl

[Riktam de Voil]

Well you can't please everybody, ladies! I say trash that guy!

On the other hand, if you can't find a serious boyfriend in Japan, maybe you girls just aren't looking closely enough, eh? Seems like 99% of foreign women are incapable of using or even replying to the "Single foreign man wants to meet single foreign woman" classifieds. Really, I give up!

[woodrackets]

Basically only the dumbest loser white women come here - "easy money in Japan just to show a little skin & talk to loser J guys at hostess bars?! I'm there grrrl!"