Snack Club Girls

[orochi]

Any guys had any experience dating a girl they met at a snack club? I have gone to a club a few times and get along great with one of the girls. We exchanged keitai #s and stuff and mail each other a bit. I never get any of that 'you should come down to the bar now'; it's always day to to day stuff: how was your day? what are you up to, etc? I was there last night and we made definite plans to grab dinner week after next. I dunno if this is all just her marketing or if maybe she is slightly interested. Any guys have any good/bad experiences?



Post Edited (06-25-04 16:58)

[trip_hop]

"Snack club" - do you mean snack/ pub/ hostess bar?

This is the system called "Do-han!" Pay for dinner, then pay for session at club afterwards. Good marketing ploy. Generally you will only get your ego massaged, not your prostate!

But have fun....

[nrc]

Personally I would' t put a snack into the same category as a hostess bar. A snack or a pub are on a slightly lower level than a hostess bar. I don't think there would be any "dohan" at a snack. I may be wrong, but this is just my impression.

[Jackie Treehorn]

Jackie says go with NRC on this one.....although trip hop is right when it comes to dohan.

Give it one dinner, see what the vibe is.....

I have/have had many friends...working in snack/Caba and high-end bars. They want BF`s as well.....so perhaps she is interested. Or perhaps she just wants to get you in the club.....

You can always go to the dinner and say "no" if she mentions the club.....if she does mention the club, say you are going to the restroom and quietly leave the restaraunt and her with the bill.....!!

[orochi]

Yeah, I'm definitely not looking to go to the bar afterwards. If she brings it up, I will suddenly get an urgent phone call or have plans already.

I should have been more clear on the kind of place. It's not exactly a snack, though it falls under the general snack category. It is technically a 'companion club,' if I recall correctly from the sign. All the girls are Japanese and it's probably the most upscale one in my pretty small town.

[sincity]

You've made definite plans to grab dinner the week after next?? Sounds like love alright...Is she Japanese? Unless this girl sees you as some type of knight in shining "white" armour, or unless you have really, really deep pockets, there's no way she's gonna give it up.

I had a friend who worked in the water trade. Actually I met her when she was still an OL. At that time, she used to come to my place a lot for drinks or to cry on my shoulder (but mostly for drinks). But after she started in the water trade, she'd invite me to the club for drinks and the pleasure of her company, both of which I could enjoy in unlimited supply for \5,000 per hour. I declined....

Allow me to give it to you straight up: Don't be a sucker! Buy yourself a green mohair suit, stick a mickey of tequila in your breast pocket and start to strut. You'll hook up with someone, I guarantee it. And you won't have to wait two weeks just to have dinner with her!

Trip Hop,
With all due respect, orochi is interested in hearing from GUYS. And your reference to "prostrate" could be construed by some as insensitive.

[Jackie Treehorn]

Smooth Jackie could have her over to my place......

Plenty of friends in the trade, but never been to a club....or snack bar. Can someone tell me why they go?? I don`t quite get why guys go to these places....cause chances of getting laid is pretty low. The Japanese guys seem to use the girls as their shrinks...._____ about their work and wife. Unless its a sexy-caba....


Strip clubs are in the same boat....walk in horny, walk out hornier.....touch the girl and get thrown out. No point to them......

[orochi]

Thanks for the advice guys! sincity, you sound like you know what you're talking about. I think I'll wait a bit and then maybe come down with a nasty cold or something and not be able to make it. I've gotta remember to think with my head.

[Jackie Treehorn]

I think you will be okay....you said you live in a small town....maybe she doesn`t know many foreigners......just go into with a clear head and you will be fine.
Don`t think about the fact that she works at a snack club too much.......the idea that they are all shady or sluts is WAY off base.......I would worry more about your avg. OL chick than I would with many girls that work at the night.

[orochi]

One dinner can't hurt, right? I can always say no to the club. :)

[Jackie Treehorn]

Enjoy yourself, have dinner.

[sincity]

I forgot to mention that I once had a brief fling with a girl who worked in one of those lingerie pubs (pardon the pun on 'brief'). She was very cool. But I met her outside of her work environment so I never had to question whether I was just another customer or not. That's probably an important distinction. And when I expressed (half-hearted) interest in visiting her pub, she told me not to waste my money.

The point I'm making is that all the girls who work in those places are very aware of the ludicrous sums of money that some men happily pay for nothing more than companionship. Any woman who is truly interested in you wouldn't let you set foot in such a place.

Sure, go out to dinner with her. But if you ever go to that club again, you're a fool.

[trip_hop]

sincity - these companion clubs are only a step or two away from "senritsuzen shigoki", where you might learn that the "prostate" is NOT insensitive, even if you are prostrate. The "mizushobai" is not about sex. It is business, pure and simple; designed to extract the contents of a customer's wallet with the minimum of effort and maximum of consent. A small town snack might be miles away from a Kabukicho club, but the philosophy is the same.

Orochi can go out and have fun, but it may cost him more than he anticipates. The girl may be a charmer and fun, but you can bet there is a grasping, harping mama-san behind her, encouraging and exhorting her to bring in customers. That's what two of my neighbours do five days a week!

[sincity]

trip hop,

I thought I'd banished you from this thread...Just kidding.
And I meant to write "prostate" as I think you know. Call it a poor attempt at humor from a guy getting close to the age where annual prostate checks are probably a good idea...

[Jackie Treehorn]

Think of the absurd prices the old farts pay in the clubs as a way to balance out the sex/wage discrimination here. What some OL`s get paid (or lack of pay combined with unpaid OT) is absurd.

[trip_hop]

sincity - somehow jokes always fall flat on this forum, and many others - even academic paulh's attempt at sarcasm fell flat yesterday. Would not even risk a joke about "pap smears"; our nearest equivalent to your prostate check, for fear someone would think I wrote "papa's smears!"

;-)

[jpyconnection]

I'm dating a girl who works at one now!

She's not interested in me seeing her workplace and I'm not interested in going!

Essentially what she's told me is that the snacks exist for geeks and other salarymen who don't have lives and are lonely!

Many refuse to leave, even on week nights, until 5AM. We both agree it's a bit sad!

The interesting thing about these girls is their good at putting on an act. They play cute and not too bright but as Iget to know my woman more I find there's a lurking intellegence that has yet to entirely reveal itself!

Heck she walks 5 min to work I commute over 2 hours a day between jobs!

My job is tough and stressful at times, she doesn't seem to have a lot of stress since she controls her cusotmers like puppets!

Who's smarter here?

I'd say you should date this chick and check it out!!!

If she want you to go to the club it's a ploy if not it's real!!!

[Frungy]

A "snack" is NOT a hostess bar! It's more like a mix between an izakaya and an American bar- it has regulars like the American bar, but you go there to socialize, not just drink a beer and watch the game.

Does this particular snack have a mama-san? Usually some old woman who owns the place, and everyone knows her?

[trip_hop]

Well I guess 5,000 bars in Ikebukuro, Shinjuku, Umeda, Shinsaibashi and downtown Kanagawa have all got the wrong sign on their doors. Two of my neighbours are both "pub/ snack" mama-sans, and their staff are all available for extra services; it makes up for their low salaries.

[kurogane]

Lots of hostesses, bartenders, etc. also have normal lives. Maybe she thinks you're nice and wants to get to know you better. Go on a date. The worst that can happen is what, no porstrate massage (a disgusting visual, BTW)?

Ganbare Orochi.

[Frungy]

Well, I'm out in the sticks, so I guess rural snacks are a bit different from the downtown ones. So the people who frequent them are usually the seedier type, looking for a quickie, and not the bar "regulars" I think they are?

[Mandrake]

Dude,

Don't chase after her.
Don't call her during the day or mail her during the day.
Mail her on a Sunday. This is the usual day off.
Call her after midnight and tell her you couldn't sleep because you were thinking about her.
Tell her you want to see her right away. That you like her and want to be with her.
Don't let her dictate. Be tough.
If she wants to call the shots then walk away. Japanese girls freak out and will come after you if you do this.
Dress sharp. Never let her see you badly dressed.

[kurogane]

Mandrake,

You have bigger B%lls than most of the guys I know. U are a women, aren't you? (no meaning outside of a request for perspective, eh?)