Whats it like being a gaijin in Osaka?

[godzillagaijin]

Anyone have any thoughts? Here are mine...

www.geocities.com/godzillagaijin

This should provide you with some answers

[Nozomi]

Can't you just tell us what your thoughts are?
As interesting as your website sounds, I don't have the time or the inclination to search through it.
Give us some concrete comments and we can start a discussion.

Nozomi

[Bluedog]

Yeah, if you don't have flash installed all you see is a big "get the plugin" icon. It probably looks cool but it's good if you can navigate a site with basic html.

Just a tip. Most people do have their plugins working, but I prefer not to use flash, activex etc etc unless I absolutely have to.

[Jackie Treehorn]

Yeah, I have an idea. How about a some excersize (and a diet) for a change? Nice nutcase right wing diatribe....

[godzillagaijin]

You thought diatribes were only for left wing wackos? America was founded on the belief of Diatribes for All!

Please, dont hate me because Im rational.

[Jackie Treehorn]

Yeah, rational, thats right.

Why are you including your website with all of your posts?

[godzillagaijin]

My arguments are rational and reasonable and supported by FACTS (liberals forget this part of a debate) cultivated from liberal and left leaning news sources (MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc) so there is no argument as to their source.

Again, I dont mind what liberals spout off about as long as they can provide facts that support their ramblings. To date I have seen nothing that supports liberals ranting about Bush lieing, or the US profiting from Iraqi oil or any of the other ridiculous statements and views on current events that are infecting the left.

When someone produces FACTS and not just quotes from movies or gossip from the net then I will be more than willing to listen.

All I ask is that people do NOT take other peoples words for granted (left or right). Do your own research and find out the real reason why you believe what you believe.

That ,in my opinion, is rational and reasonable.

As for the site, I feel its entertaining (opinion again) and I have some things to say I think people should hear about the upcoming election.

But I understand if you find it difficult listening to opinions that dont necessarily agree with your own beliefs. Tis the liberal M.O.

[Jackie Treehorn]

Excuse me? But the pentagon itself was going to hold back 15% of the money it was to pay Halliburton. The reason? Their subsidiary in Kuwait overcharged for oil transportation and a large number of purchased items were unaccounted for. The list goes on and on about various violations made in Iraq regarding contracts/Iraqi funds vs. US funds/Iraqi companies (not used) vs. American companies being used. Basically, US companies are using Iraqi money while they are supposed to be using US money for the "reconstruction".

Can you find me a liberal who said that Saddam was a good guy? Nobody was saying that, they new it wasn`t the time to go to war with Iraq, and the way in which Bush did it was just about the worst way possible, and it was cost countless lives, both Iraqi and American. Bush and his Admin. have failed in every respect regarded the Iraq war......well, with the exception of ousting Saddam.

I don`t understand why republicans are so gung-ho about Bush. He isn`t even a republican, he is a radical. Under his Admin, discretionary spending has gone up (non-military expenditures) and government has grown. The last thing Bush is is conservative.

Then you get all the arm-chair generals for Bush. Bush got out of service and was believed to be AWOL during his stint in the ANG, Cheney got 6 (7?) deferments and didnt serve...while at the same time being quite vocal about his support for the war in vietnam, Wolfowitz didnt serve, Rumsfielf (guess what!) didnt serve, hell......the only guy who was dragging his feet in Iraq did serve, Colin Powell. Not to mention that the DOD and White House basically ignored the State Dept.

And...here we have Kerry, who did serve (not that its needed to be CIC) and is getting sh#t from what are essentially a bunch of pussys who talk the talk but wont walk the walk. As for Kerry`s protesting after getting back from Vietnam......doesn`t one get the right to protest after putting their life on the line and getting wounded in the process?

[JBS3009]

Godzilla gaijin, that site is pathetic. You epitomize the typical fat, ignorant American abroad. Congratulations on helping to screw up your fellow countrymen`s reputations in Japan. Oh and my, isn`t saying "f*** this" and "f*** that" just so hilarious! Kurogane, come forth with your complex vocabularly in condemning this website!
And godzillagaijin, shave off that damn goatee. You look like an idiot.

[takai]

Godzilla gaijin,

I find your WebSite, great、good job!!!! looks very human　and cool!!!

高

[godzillagaijin]

If the pentagon(under the Bush administration) is withholding money from Haliburton because a Kuwaiti (not American) company overcharged them, you hold Bush responsible for the plundering of Iraq? SOunds like Bush is trying to make sure the Iraqi people dont get swindled to me...But those are your words, not mine.

The money being spent in Iraq comes from four different sources. The first being the small amount contributed by the international community which hasnt really materialized yet in the form of actual cash, only guarantees. The second is from money being produced by the Iraqi oil supply which is ALL under the control of the Iraqi oil ministry. The third is from a fund Saddam had stolen from the Iraqi people and skimmed off the Oil for Food program run by the UN. And lastly, and most importantly LARGELY from the American taxpayers whose ELECTED representatives authorized the spending of 87 billion dollars to help the Iraqi people. In no way has Bush used Iraqi dollars to fund the reconstruction effort.

And another thing...when you use terms like "the list goes on and on" it means nothing to me or any other rational person...You have a list, you show it to me with proof. Those words are just meaningless filler meant to boost your position. If you have a position, prove it. Other like minded liberals might use your "laundry list" approach to spout amens to the choir, but I dont buy the bullcrap.

Spending has gone up because the times call for it. I and nearly ALL of the American people are willing to foot the bill if it means the country is safer. That means improving local defense and infrastructure and hiring more people. Also, taxes have been cut, meaning more money is not coming in. Buddy, three years ago my country got hit by 4 planes killing 3000 plus people. Im ready to pay heftly if it means we can be safer in the future...and you know what? So far so good. Dont fault the president for making sacrifices for the people of the US. Im glad we have someone in office who has taken the time and the money to fix what should have been fixed ten years ago. If clinton had spent the money instead of singlemindedly cutting budgets (including the CIAs) we might not have lost 3000 patriots.

The greatest presidents in history didnt fight in a war. Lincoln, Roosevelt...They never faught, but they sure as hell led during war time. The president aint out in the trenches. If its the presidents job to go out on a swift boat up the Mekong Ill vote for Kerry, but its not. His job is to make tough, practical decisions whether they are popular or not. And Bush does that. Kerry cant make up his mind.

As far as protesting, sure I believe in protest. Protest your ___ off. But make sure you are committed to it. You cant bad mouth the war and the people who fought side by side with you one minute, then use that war and your own record to help you get elected. But hey, we are all used to Kerry doing whats best for himself anyway. The guy keeps one eye on the polls and one eye on the prompter. Kind of like another guy who ended his term four years ago. And look how great that turned out.

I dont know if your American or not, but I dont care. If you want to vote Kerry, go for it. But my voice is out there on my website. And my voice will be heard in the election.

And JBS3009...Your response is typical. Instead of using reason and approaching a problem with clarity what do you do? Resort to name calling and insults. I love it. Sounds like Michael Moore and Al Franken to me. Why is it you dont find republicans doing that sort of thing? I wonder...

[kurogane]

JBS,
Thanks for the call, man, but Kurogane is sick of More American Jerkoffs Abroad, and cannot be bothered to even go to said website. He is content to be happy with his Right Thinking American friends, and to ignore the counter-evolutionary troglodytic ｐhilistines. And besides, Takai commends him, so we know when a troll like that likes something, we're at the bottom of the evolutionary mudpit with this F'wit.
Nice to be thought of, though :)

[Tomoko the tapeworm.]

I'm not an American, but I did have a wank earlier on this evening.

righto.

Tomoko.

[kurogane]

What time did you wank? I was wanking earlier this evening as well!!!!!!!!!!! Could this be Onanistic synchronicity?

[godzillagaijin]

counter-evolutionary... troglodytic... ｐhilistines...evolutionary...Onanistic...synchron icity...

Thats quite an impressive vocabulary you have. Not the words I would have chosen, I feel a well placed f*ck, c*ck and sh*t can have the same effect. But hey, Im a just another jerkoff American abroad. But really, I know I can speak for everyone who read it that I was thoroughly impressed. You must have yourself a grand time macking all those socialist, tree hugging, hairy armpitted counter culture chicken heads in Picadilly. I heard all you need is a membership card to the Revolutionary Workers Party and a thesaurus and they get all hot and bothered down in their danglies.

Boy JBS, you were right on with this lad...He was no disappointment at all. Kind of followed in your footsteps huh? Presented with a rational arguement he bowed out without even a nod (though the post itself could be construed as one). But he did give a good go at the old liberal insult game didnt he though? Never a dull moment with these left wingers...Can always count on you to dodge facts and realities and launch with the personal insults.

Kurogane, does it ____ you off to know that my vote counts in this upcoming election and all the while youll just be sitting there wanking and flipping through your big word flash cards in anticipation of the result? Sure sucks to be powerless in the most important election of our lives. Dont worry though, you have the coronation of Prince Charles to look forward to.

Youre ever Right Thinking American Jerkoff pal,

GG

[Tomoko the tapeworm.]

7:44.32 - 7:44.51.
Yes, I am a truly special Olympian.

[Frungy]

Are you really a Connecticut Yankee? If you are, it's pretty much your vote that isn't going to count. Your vote only counts if you're from Florida, Ohio, Missouri, or some other "battleground" state.

Hawaii doesn't count either.

[godzillagaijin]

See, thats the thinking that got us into trouble in 2000. Hundreds of thousands of Republicans from Mass and NY all stayed home on election day because they thought it wouldnt make a difference. Gore won a majority and the Dems are still whining about it. Seems they forgot to read the election statutes before they put their vote in, and low and behold they were surprised to see this thing called the electoral college pop up out of no where.

So my voice will be heard. Whether it is in the Socialist Republic of Hawaii or not, I will be counted.

[swordfishtrombone]

[And JBS3009...Your response is typical. Instead of using reason and approaching a problem with clarity what do you do? Resort to name calling and insults. I love it. Sounds like Michael Moore and Al Franken to me. Why is it you dont find republicans doing that sort of thing? I wonder...[/QUOTE]

isn't this a form of name calling? an attempt at insults? just as childish as you accuse others of being?

if you are so devoted to and confident in the facts, let them speak for themselves.

[Bluedog]

"I feel a well placed f*ck, c*ck and sh*t can have the same effect."

I feel a well placed d*ck under my desk right now.

I couldn't see the web site but does this have more than an asshair to do with being a gaijin in Osaka?

[kurogane]

BD,
You too, shall forever be known as Sensei. I still have no ____ for your tang, however. Many thousand apologies.

GG,
Whateva

[Tomoko the tapeworm.]

There must be some better ranking strata than stooping to this generic "sensei" crap.

0-10: Ignore me. I'm here by mistake.

11-49: Gaylord Cum-Gargler On High.

50-99: Yes, I am on my high horse, and no, I'm not getting off any time soon, thank you very much, newbie.

100-199: Magisterial SpazzMaster (TM)

200-299: Magisterial SpazzMaster (TM) with Magenta Robe.

300-399: Hello. I am a humourless git on a par with Glumski.

[godzillagaijin]

CM...so, you want me dead? Will that make all your problems go away? If people like me cease to exist in the world will it be a better place for you? You would be willing to wish death upon me if it meant there was one less person in this world with an opinion opposite of yours? Wow, sounds like an Islamic Jihadist to me...that or another liberal swine whose actions and thoughts COMPLETELY contradict the same things they say they believe in. You would make a fantastic dictator on par with Saddam, Stalin or Hitler...remember, they killed all the people with opinions that differed from them。。。But that makes perfect sense. With words like that CM it sounds like you believe Saddam was right in murdering hundreds of thousands of desenters and free thinkers. It made his life easier for almost thirty years in fact. Why, I think that should be the way of life really. If someone disagrees with you, have him murdered. Why didnt I think of that...Infact, we wouldnt even need democracy if I could just whack everyone who thought the opposite of me. Maybe after Ive killed all of them, I could send hired gunmen into the streets to rape women and kill families just so anyone who even THOUGHT about opposing my positions would be detered. And just to put more emphasis on my point I will drop some sarin and mustard gas on innocent villagers to show them my true power and convictions in the truths I hold dear. Im sure no one will oppose me in the international community. And if some country actually decided what I was doing was wrong I could just cry foul to Germany and France and they would make sure the problem goes away...maybe 14 times in fact...CM, its brilliant really. I think Ill start plotting my murderous coup tomorrow...

Now if I could just find Kurogane and JBS...

[JBS3009]

Seriously, godzilla gaijin, I may have resorted to name calling and insults, but they weren`t unfounded. I mean, the opening paragraphs of your site arrogantly declares:

"Japan is inhabited by a great and durable people who cherish culture, values, respect, cleanliness, dignity, hard work and social grace above all other things...
I on the other hand have declared war against each and every one of those pillars of the Japanese lifestyle"

HA HA. What do you assume people with any culturally tolerant and appreciative bone in their body are going to think? And to bandy about F*ck and sh*t as much as you do only affirms that the American sense of humour is at it`s lowest point, if swear words are your idea of comic genius. What an excellent way to display a lack of intelligence.

I don`t know you personally, but the way in which you have condescendinly exhibited yourself and your ridiculously Right-wing opinions are bound to draw negative reactions from anyone with the any of qualities mentioned.

And we don`t give a sh*t about your single vote.

Hope that`s using enough "reason" and "clarity" for you.

[sincity]

JBS,

「なたは　春一番の桜のよに美しい」
Godzillagaijin certainly has some "impressive" features, although I'm not sure I'd compare him to a flower.

Or perhaps you intend to subject your girlfriend to that hackneyed fluff...If that's the case, I beg you to reconsider. It's no wonder that all the complex-ridden, weepy-eyed, self-absorbed Japanese women turn to gaijin for validation when you spew out crap like that.

The truth is that a normal Japanese woman would either be embarrassed by such a line or just find it ridiculous. God help you if she actually likes that stuff...

I'm sorry for that rant, but it's something that needed to be said.
Now carry on with this fascinating discourse on life in Osaka.

[JBS3009]

That`s my signature, damnit! Yeah, I actually did say to a girl once, her embarrassment was at that time was unparalled. I guess using it as my signature is just my little memento of the occasion.

[kurogane]

JBS,
That line is a bit schmaltzy, eh?
GG,
Was that hypothetical scenario in yesterday's post a synopsis of US postwar foreign policy? Brilliant overview of the way in which they have brutally imposed their will on all dissenters through the use of the jackbooted marine, whether in proxy or direct form.

By the way, if you do find me, run the other way. Remember, Canada and Vietnam are the only two nations that have defeated the forces of American expansionist fascist imperialism, and while I don't come from the latter, the hockey stick I plant in your pea sized brain will let you know where I am from.

But seriously, peace my steroid overloaded hillbilly friend. Just becasue your parents were siblings doesn't mean you have to be angry for the rest of your genetically malformed days.
Any more threats, and the Overlords of the site will be informed, and your contract terminated with extreme prejudice.
Also, if you are having trouble with those Reel Reel Big Words, try visiting dictionary.com

[godzillagaijin]

Dont worry, your hockey stick threat was much more direct than mine. Now, would you be using a hockey stick because the Queen still doesnt allow her step children in canadia to use big bad dangerous guns? Figures a canadian would bring a hockey stick to a gun fight.

Ive heard about those hockey stick gangs up there in canadia...menacing boys them. Heard they strike fear into the hearts of renegade curling teams everywhere.

Now which war exactly were you talking about? Please dont tell me the war of 1812 cause that is ludicrous...A war fought by the British for British land (Thats right, canadia wasnt a country then)... Or maybe you were talking about the great canadian Bacon wars led by the valiant General John Candy in the mid 1990s...Well, you got me there...Comedy in American hasnt been the same since (as proven by the band of insurgents known as the Kids in the Hall)...Or maybe it was canadas invasion of high quality dope from British Columbia? Or maybe when canadia starting dropping horrendous looking hats made by Roots behind American lines? Or how about when you hit us with a double attack of SARS and Mad Cow disease in back to back years...you really kicked our asses there, eh?

But Im just kidding Kurogane...I think canadia is a really up and coming country...I mean, I just read in the paper that electricity will be available in ALL the territories come 2010 AND indoor plumbing is currently being installed in Toronto...By the time you get back there, youll be able to take a shower indoors instead of the barn...think of the possibilities...

Can you correct me here...I understand that everyone in canadia goes around wearing "Im a Junior Varsity American" tshirt during their days off from the Molson plant...is that right?

Well Kurogane, you do indeed have the Coronation of King Charles to look forward to...then maybe you can replace the Queens picture on all your money with his! Unless of course you decide to go completely French and start using all of their old Francs. I mean, you already have a French PM right? And you guys rely on the US for protection but still bad mouth us, eh? And you dont have the balls to enter any world conflicts, eh? May as well go all the way.

Your Hoser in Spirit,

GG

Oh yeah, JBS...

Are you just jealous cause your country doesnt make important and impactful decisions about the course of history? Or are you just hung up about the current medal count at the Olympics? Or maybe our freedom of expression...or our enormous GDP...or maybe our fantastic entertainment industry...or our powerfull and influencial armed forces...or our gigantic c*cks...or our beautifull women...or our authors and painters...or our ingenuity...or our endurance...or our space program...or our drive and determination...or our enormous GDP (did I say that already?)...or our knowledge base..or our educational prowess...or our...ah sheet...the list goes on and on...

Get over it JBS...maybe your country of Slovenakia (or whatever third world sh*thole you call home) will get it right someday and lobby to become a US State or at the least a territory along the likes of Samoa. Only then will you ever be able to experience the feeling of being a part of the best country in the world...hands down...

Only then could you truly understand what it means to have a "single" vote in the first and best democracy in the world.

[laterthanyou]

is he wants to give his kid the middle name of ronin. It seems the wife and family were not to keen on the idea(I agree), but finally acquiesced . I wonder why? I might be wrong, but I am almost 100% sure that there is no place for a middle name on the family register. He's watched a bit too much Yojimbo me thinks. I have the distinct feeling that life will not be so grand for this gaijin in the future.

[jpyconnection]

I have the distinct feeling that life will not be so grand for this gaijin in the future.

Check the pic on the website! You'll retract this statement, but be reaffirmed in the rest!

[JBS3009]

Congratulations on popularising the stereotype of the pathetic, arrogant American. No one here is jealous, and we could spend all night arguing with you about your country`s breaches of international law, two-faced foreign policies, as well as appalling domestic problems such as the highest crime rate of any developed nation, religious fundamentalism (read sections of alex wills post), lack of gun control, and general ignorance of the outside world, but you`re just not worth it, dude.

As for the part about the large c*cks... you should speak for yourself - every one knows fat guys are tiny in that department.

And don`t you dare bring up the Olympic medal count, you idiot. Wow, you`re so dominant - 29 gold for a country of more than 350 million. My country has won 16 gold, with 19 and a half million. If you`re capable of doing the math, you may be able to work out that, per capita, we easily kick your gigantic ___.

[laterthanyou]

I have the distinct feeling that life will not be so grand for this gaijin in the future.

Check the pic on the website! You'll retract this statement, but be reaffirmed in the rest!


If you mean grand as in a 1000 pounds, yeah I retract my statement... He states that his name brendann means raven prince in irish gaelic (I'm going off memory here) I think it also might stand for delusional man of great girth and small brain.

[Welesley]

Wow, such language. Very interesting string of posts to get my Saturday morning started.



I have to ask about the flash introduction on your website, do you know what all of those kanji mean? I find it a little ironic that you have "seeking his revenge" then "on those who don't speak English" to the background kanji of "ai" or love. Am I missing a hidden message?



Ok I will agree that the British were fighting you in 1812 - 1814 [Canada might not have really become a country until 1982 (or 1867 depending on your definition of a sovereign country)] if you will agree that the only reason your United States of America exists is because the French could not resist pissing the English off by providing most of the gunpowder (aprox. 90%) and other war munitions that your valiant and heroic rebels used. (I suppose you think the movie “The Patriot” was historically accurate?) Still considering that the British in 1812 were fighting the armies of France (again) in Spain and India as well as having the time to kick the Americans back to whence they came, showing that again the US needed the help of the French and still lost. IT was really just a tit for tat, you burnt down our capital so when the British arrived in Washington and gave the city a chance to surrender and then someone shot at him he took offence and razed the city. Good thing too or your president’s house would not have a name.



And I realize that you are really jealous of Canada’s multiculturalism, lack of violent homicides by hang guns and universal health care (with the most mediocre service for all).



I agree, it is impossible in Japan to have a middle name, you can only have two names and last names are limited to a couple of thousand choices. Why do you want to call you child “Ronin”? Is he from a samurai family? Or do you expect him to be a “freeter” his whole life?



If Canada went French it would still be better than going American, then Canada could join the EC and have access to the Euro, which as I seem to remember has been gaining steadily these last 4 years.



What does Canada have that anyone really wants? Entering world conflicts, really? The American presidents enter world conflicts as sport. This is what pisses the rest of the world off. You are the kid who plays a new game, gets tired or bored and goes home. Tibet is a fine example of this, your CIA dropped weapons and other supplies on the people in Tibet because you wanted to contain communism (that is a whole other thread) the CIA trains these people covertly in California and Arizona, then takes them back and drops them back into Tibet to fight the Red Army without taking into account that those people cannot adapt to fight using European guerrilla tactics. So the next administration quits funding the project, and the Red Army slaughters the Tibetans. Need I move on to Afghanistan? Basically same idea but different players. Outcome you ____ off an entire religious group.



Canadians know enough to stay out of these things. We learn from history. Basically because the British made a rather huge botch up of Iraq the first time (1920’s) we do not want to go back.





Back to your website:



“The United States did not drop two nuclear weapons on Japan so I would have to sit on the ____in floor. The Japanese have embraced almost all things American, its about time they started using ____in chairs. If you ask me, I think they are just being stubborn. Maybe another sub-atomic thermo-nuclear device set off in the middle of Tokyo will change their minds. Maybe THEN I can sit in a chair instead of expanding my bed sore collection.”



I leave you with this question “Did the Japanese embrace all things American or were they forced?”

[godzillagaijin]

I have to ask about the flash introduction on your website, do you know what all of those kanji mean? I find it a little ironic that you have "seeking his revenge" then "on those who don't speak English" to the background kanji of "ai" or love. Am I missing a hidden message?

--Irony and asthetics...nothing more.



Ok I will agree that the British were fighting you in 1812 - 1814 [Canada might not have really become a country until 1982 (or 1867 depending on your definition of a sovereign country)] if you will agree that the only reason your United States of America exists is because the French could not resist pissing the English off by providing most of the gunpowder (aprox. 90%) and other war munitions that your valiant and heroic rebels used. (I suppose you think the movie “The Patriot” was historically accurate?) Still considering that the British in 1812 were fighting the armies of France (again) in Spain and India as well as having the time to kick the Americans back to whence they came, showing that again the US needed the help of the French and still lost. IT was really just a tit for tat, you burnt down our capital so when the British arrived in Washington and gave the city a chance to surrender and then someone shot at him he took offence and razed the city. Good thing too or your president’s house would not have a name.

--France didnt enter the war until late. They waited around for a good 5 years while we battled the British with virtually no support. no bayonets and no shoes on their feet. They didnt get into it until we had won a few important campaigns (Trenton, Princeton, Boston, South Carolina etc...) and it wasnt until the last year that the French made an impact. Until york there werent any French military units in action and the French navy was uselessly involved in protecting their colonies in the caribbean. We proved our determination, and until it appeared the British were on their heals anyway, only then did the French enter the war.

--Great job giving mad props to the British military. BUt when are you going to do the same for the Americans who have been protecting your asses for the last 100 years and enduring a lopsided $1 billion a day trade agreement between the two countries? Dont worry, we have never asked for your thanks and you have never given any.


And I realize that you are really jealous of Canada’s multiculturalism, lack of violent homicides by hang guns and universal health care (with the most mediocre service for all).

--America is the most multicultural country in the world. No argument. The violence with hand guns in the states is on going and solutions are being sought. But I wouldnt trade the freedom to protect my own house against government oppression for all the low class punks who decided to fight with pistolas. We have the best doctors and the best medicine and the best hospitals. They are available to anyone who can support THEMSELVES (a novel idea, eh?) and pay for insurance. I dont know about you, but I dont want to wait around 6 months to get a half assed doctor to operate on me in Canada.



I agree, it is impossible in Japan to have a middle name, you can only have two names and last names are limited to a couple of thousand choices. Why do you want to call you child “Ronin”? Is he from a samurai family? Or do you expect him to be a “freeter” his whole life?

--Ronin means "masterless samurai"...it is my hope the boy will have the skills while not succumbing to any power other than his own. Something a canadian could never understand (god save the queen).


If Canada went French it would still be better than going American, then Canada could join the EC and have access to the Euro, which as I seem to remember has been gaining steadily these last 4 years.

--The dollar has propped up failing world economies for a 100 years (including yours). It will always be the measure and the standard for all world currencies. The EU is a fledgling experiment that has so far not met its expectations. They are a racist, old boys network that has refused to work towards the future, but instead has neglected those eastern european countries that need the help most. Again, the US does a billion dollars a day of trade with Canada...I dont think you could afford to join the EU even if you wanted.


What does Canada have that anyone really wants? Entering world conflicts, really? The American presidents enter world conflicts as sport. This is what pisses the rest of the world off.

--Did it ____ off England? Or France? or Germany? Or Japan? Or Eastern Europe? Or the free people of Iraq? We entered conflicts because also rans like canada never had the balls or the capability to do anything about it. Millions of people are free because of the US. For you to forget that is reckless and lacks hindsight. True, besides ending slavery, oppression, communism, fascism and socialism, American wars have never solved anything.

You are the kid who plays a new game, gets tired or bored and goes home. Tibet is a fine example of this, your CIA dropped weapons and other supplies on the people in Tibet because you wanted to contain communism (that is a whole other thread) the CIA trains these people covertly in California and Arizona, then takes them back and drops them back into Tibet to fight the Red Army without taking into account that those people cannot adapt to fight using European guerrilla tactics. So the next administration quits funding the project, and the Red Army slaughters the Tibetans. Need I move on to Afghanistan? Basically same idea but different players. Outcome you ____ off an entire religious group.

--We did many things to fight the communist threat in the past that have now resulted in problems. No disagreement. The nature of the fight back then was different. but you wouldnt know that sitting on the sidelines. We did many sh*tty things to fight Russia and China as a result of their willingness to do more sh*tty things. We are now "paying" for our mistakes of freeing the world from soviet oppression. Again the world has forgotten. But we will prevail again, and not ask thanks again.

We pissed off Afghanistan because we didnt give them enough money to build up their government. We trained them, and supplied arms and helped provide the freedom, but because they are so corrupt and backwards thinking they blame US for their inability to build a nation. So in essence, you are blaming the US for supplying the freedom, but NOT supplying the government and aid to build a nation? Well, we are doing that in Iraq now. We have freed the people and we are sticking around to build the nation using billions of our own dollars. So really, what are you complaining about? Based on your logic, it sounds like you actually condone our mission in Iraq because we are finishing the job (unlike Tibet and Afghanistan)...So dont complain about it.



Canadians know enough to stay out of these things. We learn from history. Basically because the British made a rather huge botch up of Iraq the first time (1920’s) we do not want to go back.

--The past my friend. Look to the future. Do you live your life worrying about mistakes your grandfather made? Neither does the US.

All you have mentioned here are past mistakes and foul ups. Why is it that liberals are unable to look towards the future? They only look at mistakes that have occured, but are incapable at looking at how to solve said mistakes. You want reperations for slavery, and the American Indian and the War of 1812, and Afghanistan, and Tibet. What will that solve? We move forward as the world stands around and waits.


Back to your website:



“The United States did not drop two nuclear weapons on Japan so I would have to sit on the ____in floor. The Japanese have embraced almost all things American, its about time they started using ____in chairs. If you ask me, I think they are just being stubborn. Maybe another sub-atomic thermo-nuclear device set off in the middle of Tokyo will change their minds. Maybe THEN I can sit in a chair instead of expanding my bed sore collection.”



I leave you with this question “Did the Japanese embrace all things American or were they forced?”

--I dont remember holding a gun to any japanese guy forcing him to listen to Elvis Presley. That statement is ridiculous. Think about it.

I grow tired of irrational exhuberance.

[kurogane]

GG,
You are a ______, but ..........whateva. Peace my ridiculous southern frend. JFTR, I don't even know which end of the hockey stick is up, anyway. And yes, those roving bands of hockey stick thugs are becoming quite a social problem. It makes me envious of the quiet and peaceful republic to our south, as documented by Michael Moore and Quentin Tarantino

The rest of you,
Excellent work. Kurogane rest at ease, knowing that the SOuthern Barbarian has been put in his appropriately lowly place.

[Tomoko the tapeworm.]

Kurogane, you turtle-eating Alderman, you, you did not read that entire post and you dashed well know it. Come on. Fess up. Me, I made it to "1812." Not bad, eh?

As for the avatar, dressing up your jolly rectal-Roger love aid was a good idea, but good grief, surely you can find a better place to hide it. Hello, McFly, MCFLY? The Sheila you are whizzing about town with in that gaylord RX-7 of yours will find the thing STRAIGHT AWAY if you "hide" it there. And for Gods sake man, GIVE THE THING A WASH.

[kurogane]

Heh Heh. Did he mention 1812?

As for the avatar, I always thought that was a pejorative hurled vituperously at those of arrogant tendencies. You gots to admit, though, just finding it was in itself worthy of the Avatar Research Award. Check out my photo on my profile.

Are we supposed to wash there? I always thought that was why granny called it our "dirty place".

[laterthanyou]

--Ronin means "masterless samurai"...it is my hope the boy will have the skills while not succumbing to any power other than his own.

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I rather doubt you have to tell us what ronin means... I don't think it's a very positive name either... Seeing as how Japan's society is driven by a group dynamic as opposed to what you could say is Americas social dynamic; That the individual matters. If you somehow succeed in naming your son Ronin, you do him a great disservice. Succumb to power? I thought all merceneries succumb to money. And money is power, in nippon.

[Dom]

umm....Saddam Hussein didn't kick the weapons inspectors out. They left....they weren't forced to leave. Saddam just wasn't cooperating so the weapons inspectors pulled out.

Interesting website...not much to do with Japan.

I was actually for the war but it wasn't really done in the best way. I knew some Iraqis and they said they wanted Saddam out, i'll take their opinion over anyone else in this forum. .

Anyway...to answer the rhetorical question at the top of the thread. Living in Osaka is wonderful. Close to Kyoto, Nara, Himeji, Kobe and Koya-san. 2hrs 30m to Tokyo. A couple of hours to Hiroshima on the Shinkansen. A big airport (Kansai International) 40 minutes from Namba (centre of Osaka) by bus. Great cheap food. Some interesting modern architecture. Friendly people. No crime. Easy to cycle around.

Its just a bit ugly that's all. Until it turns dark and the dotonbori lights up and its really buzzy. I'd recommend living in Osaka to anyone. Just as long as you can live without parks and don't mind very humid summers.

[Maki`s Mum]

Osaka sounds good. Actually I do wonder about Tokyo, the beaches near here get so crowded and there is the whole lack of identity issue. Tokyo is everything to everyone...Osaka would appear to have its own character and foibles. Rather like Sapporo and Sendai I suppose.
Tokyo is full of rich and wannabe rich people, and the LCD of foreigners.

War - I am interested as hardly anyone professes to be for the war around me at the moment.
The bottom line seems to be that because of the depleted uranium issue, many children have developed hideous diseases - anyone seen the pictures ? Shocking may I say. Shocking.
That was enough for me to be against the use of bombs in a war.
You say that the war was not done in the best way. How might it have been done better ?

[kurogane]

Maki's Mum wrote:
"you say that the war was not done in the best way. How might it have been done better ?"

Umm, let's see............ How about by not being done at all?

Okay you warmongering lame name giving poofy monster, back to the topic.

[godzillagaijin]

Im sure you could sleep better knowing that 25 million people were still living under oppression and the threat of death and torture if we allowed Saddam to stay in power.

But I understand if you or your country cant be bothered with the pain and anguish of 25 million people all the way on the other side of the world. I mean, if its not happening directly to you, than its not important right? Why should we worry about 300,000 people being murdered and placed in unmarked graves. Or whole villages being wiped out by chemical attacks. Or entire Olympic teams being tortured. Or squads of goons being sent out into the night to rape women and children and strike fear into a questioning populous. Or the theft of billions of dollars in aid from the poor people of Iraq. Or the funding of terrorists and suicide bombers in Israel. Or the training of terrorists in Iraq. Or the....

Once again Kurogane, you are correct. War never solved anything...besides ending communism, socialism, slavery and genocide.

[Frungy]

I liked how you lumped Communism with Socialism. Damn Scandanavians... always causing trouble.

The reason Reagan and Rumsfeld supported Saddam in the 80's was because he was the only secular leader in the Middle East. They didn't care that he maintained his power through torture and oppression- he wasn't a fundamentalist nutcase like what was going on in Iran (again, a result of US foreign policy). Beyond the 80's... who knows what happened. Some people think he was given the green light to invade Kuwait by Ambassador April Glaspie, some people think he just went out of control like most US-supported dictators do like Noriega, Pinochet.

So don't tell me you suddenly are concerned about the Kurds getting massacred now... I didn't hear you complaining 20 years ago.

[laterthanyou]

Im sure you could sleep better knowing that 25 million people were still living under oppression and the threat of death and torture if we allowed Saddam to stay in power.

So I guess that means YOU didn't sleep for the entire reign of Hussien then, even hen he was our ally against the extremists in Iran.... Wow your smart AND morally superior to us...You are ignorant or ignoring the facts. Whose side were we on when Iraq was fighting a war against Iran? The only thing we care about is under those 50 million feet. (give or take a few million feet for the ones blown off from landmines and the extra ones growing out of odd places due to birth malformations from depleted uranium shells /sarcasam/) Oil. Peak Oil is coming and the U.S.A. wants as much oil as it can get. Japan too.


But I understand if you or your country cant be bothered with the pain and anguish of 25 million people all the way on the other side of the world. I mean, if its not happening directly to you, than its not important right? Why should we worry about 300,000 people being murdered and placed in unmarked graves. Or whole villages being wiped out by chemical attacks.

It didn't bother us in 80's. It didn't bother us in Rwanda. It didn't bother us for most of Bosnia.


Once again Kurogane, you are correct. War never solved anything...besides ending communism, socialism, slavery and genocide.

Funny I thought crushing debt ended communisim....Anyway, a better argument would be that war helps create communisim/socialisim...Thats what would have happened in all of west europe if not for the marshall plan after WW2

[laterthanyou]

Strategic Energy Policy Challenges For The 21st Century describes how America is facing the biggest energy crisis in its history. It targets Saddam as a threat to American interests because of his control of Iraqi oilfields and recommends the use of 'military intervention' as a means to fix the US energy crisis.

The report is linked to a veritable who's who of US hawks, oilmen and corporate bigwigs. It was commissioned by James Baker, the former US Secretary of State under George Bush Snr, and submitted to Vice-President ____ Cheney in April 2001 -- a full five months before September 11. Yet it advocates a policy of using military force against an enemy such as Iraq to secure US access to, and control of, Middle Eastern oil fields.

One of the most telling passages in the document reads: 'Iraq remains a destabilising influence to ... the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export programme to manipulate oil markets.

'This would display his personal power, enhance his image as a pan-Arab leader ... and pressure others for a lifting of economic sanctions against his regime. The United States should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq including military, energy, economic and political/diplomatic assessments.

Read the rest here:
http://www.sundayherald.com/28224

[godzillagaijin]

Lets consider for one minute that you are all correct. That Bush invaded Iraq for the sole purpose of gaining access to his vast oil supply...

What would be the problem with that? Shouldnt the worlds energy resources be under the control of people who wish to use them to advance a civilization that needs oil to grow? Or should we allow the most precious resource in the world to sit idle under the control and whims of a brutal dictator who has proven his disdain for the western world (that so desires said resource)...I dont know about you, but if not having oil means not having a job and not having food, Im all for invading Iraq and pulling Saddam out of power and replacing him with a democratic style government...that will also give 25 mil people new found freedom.

We live in a world that lives at the mercy of economic eb and flow. For you not to realize it is ridiculous. Im sure you would all like to live in a world laid out by the song Imagine, but that aint the way works. We need oil to make money. ANd money secures our (and the worlds) way of life. Thats it.

But I dont think we invaded Iraq just for oil. And I dont think you do either.


AS for the other stuff. I was a scant 9 years old when we were supporting Iraq during the Iran war. I was neither old enough to decide or old enough to care about what was going on. Now I am, and I say we fix the problem that has been created, either via our own mistakes or other forces.

Because we may have been part of the cause for the problems of today, does that mean we should not fix them? If your great great great grandfather owned slaves, does that mean we should not try and abolish slavery? Your arguments are ridiculous and backwards thinking.

Yes, crushing debt killed communism. And that debt was created how? Via the Afghanistan war (supported by the US) and the Arms race versus the US (threat of war).

All you do is talk about the past. That is all any liberal does. You did this, you did that. Sure, take that for all its worth. But the only way TRUE CHANGE can ever be enacted is by looking forward and dealing with the problems today. Bush has the courage to do that. Clinton did not. That is why 2 planes crashed into the WTC and killed 3000 of our countrymen.

[godzillagaijin]

Concerning your prophetic decree that all of western europe would have turned to communism if not for the Marshall Plan...I agree.

The US propped up the entire region and it grew into a flourishing capitalistic democracy where people can live without fear of oppression and go out about their daily lives without having to look over their shoulders.

The US did that. We created democracy from war and socialism. Who is to say we are not doing the same thing in Iraq?

[Frungy]

Again, I liked how you mention Communism and Socialism in the same regard.

[godzillagaijin]

I lumped communism, socialism and slavery together...isnt communism and socialism just a state of mental and social slavery anyway?

And dont tell me you think communism still has a chance...too many countries tried it, and it didnt work...and you know why? Because human free will and competitiveness was never factored into the Marxian equation.

[laterthanyou]

Concerning your prophetic decree that all of western europe would have turned to communism if not for the Marshall Plan...I agree.

The US propped up the entire region and it grew into a flourishing capitalistic democracy where people can live without fear of oppression and go out about their daily lives without having to look over their shoulders.

The US did that. We created democracy from war and socialism. Who is to say we are not doing the same thing in Iraq?
Uh last time I checked, Europe was not this bastion of captialism that you claim.....There's a lot of socialism over there.... Airbus, Medicine, work,etc... I long for the day of the "great big bad" USSR. It was a lot safer than it is now...Even in Europe. In fact Bosina wouldn't have even happened had the USSR not collapsed. Read "clash of civilizations"


And dont tell me you think communism still has a chance...too many countries tried it, and it didnt work...and you know why? Because human free will and competitiveness was never factored into the Marxian equation.

Don't tell me that you think democracy has a chance? When did it truly exist? Oh yeah a couple thousand years ago. Why does everyone throw that word around... The U.S. is a republic..... How many true democracies are there? I can't think of one. California is more democratic than the rest of the U.S. Propostions and all you know....It's a word. It's not what our country is. Sorry,


I lumped communism, socialism and slavery together...isnt communism and socialism just a state of mental and social slavery anyway?

Communisim is a form ideological slavery, but isn't capitalism a different form of slavery? Your a slave to the pocketbook.....and it's always hungry especially when your wife wants a new LV handbag. Capitalism breeds gluttony.

[Frungy]

I guess nobody should remind GG that our primary European allies, Britain, Poland, and Romania, are ruled by Social Democrats.

And communism was far too idealogical. Socialists today are distancing themselves from the revolutionary Marxist beliefs in favor of gradual change.

[Hal Sidewinder]

My arguments are rational and reasonable and supported by FACTS (liberals forget this part of a debate) cultivated from liberal and left leaning news sources (MSNBC, CNN, BBC etc) so there is no argument as to their source.

Again, I dont mind what liberals spout off about as long as they can provide facts that support their ramblings. To date I have seen nothing that supports liberals ranting about Bush lieing, or the US profiting from Iraqi oil or any of the other ridiculous statements and views on current events that are infecting the left.

When someone produces FACTS and not just quotes from movies or gossip from the net then I will be more than willing to listen.

All I ask is that people do NOT take other peoples words for granted (left or right). Do your own research and find out the real reason why you believe what you believe.

That ,in my opinion, is rational and reasonable.

As for the site, I feel its entertaining (opinion again) and I have some things to say I think people should hear about the upcoming election.

But I understand if you find it difficult listening to opinions that dont necessarily agree with your own beliefs. Tis the liberal M.O.

Look, the fact the you are incapable of having an erection should not come into a political discussion. That just is not rational or reasonable. Your website makes it perfectly clear that you would like to make a career as a male prostitute in Thailand. I bet the folks here would love to buy you a one-way ticket if you finally get up the guts to do what it takes to make in the world of TRUE CAPITALISM in THAILAND.

Go ahead, get off that butt of yours and get the hell out of socialist Japan. Be a man, get off those knees that are sucking on the socialist tit here in Japan, stand up and go to Thailand and pimp yourself til you are a self-made man. You can write about what it is like to be a foreigner in Thailand, which will be much more interesting than hearing about socialist Japan for the 40 000 000th time from a right-wing lunatic still pining for all the things he could not do in the USA because he is a useless bag of pucks for employers. BORING. BORING. BORING.

P.S.
Why do right-wing lunatics have such a tough time with rudimentary English spelling? Is it THAT difficult to RESEARCH the declension of common verbs? IS IT?????? Are you telling me to do the reseach? My God, if you don't edit for surface errors I reckon you have absolutely no capacity to think through the deeper aspects of the arguments you have memorized over the years, yet still managed to mangle. Who wrote, "Man is born free, yet everywhere he is in chains"? At least J.J.R. could write. You, on the other hand, are BORING.

Madeira is right about a lot of things, especially that folks should be happy for what they have here.

[kurogane]

Welcome Hal,
Declension. Good word, dude. Move to the top of the class and collect your pocky. :)

Is this what it is like to be a Gaijin in Osaka???? Thank the Holy Christ I live in Kyoto.
BTW, to all those Right Thinking Fellow Travellers, thanks for making all the points I cannot be bothered to.
GG,
You just ain't worth the effort, big guy. Get on the exercise bike. It might make you hate the world less.
Chuu

[godzillagaijin]

Hal Sidewinder...Who are you dude? Did you make any sense in your message? Ripping on my spelling errors that dont even exist in the original text? You are a certified nutcase...and I never said anything about hating Japan. You have no idea why I am here or what I did in the US, so please shut your big fat man pleaser.

Kurogane...again with the useless, evasive email that focuses on juvenile insulting instead of the issues. Are all Canadians as vapidly verbose as you? You spend alot of time and use alot of big words to say absolutely nothing. I always knew you Canadians were only good at doing one thing: talking.

To my boy Frungy. Now the truth comes out. A socialist in sheeps clothing. Yeah, that form of government works wonders. Taking the decision making process out of the hands of an uneducated and "ignorant" populous. Sounds like a grand plan. Go for it dude! But dont come begging the US for aid and protection. And Social Democrats is word and in no way reflects the decision making process they adhere to. Come on Fungi, you should know that.

And laterthanyou...just want to remind you what you said...

"Uh last time I checked, Europe was not this bastion of captialism that you claim.....There's a lot of socialism over there.... Airbus, Medicine, work,etc... I long for the day of the "great big bad" USSR. It was a lot safer than it is now...Even in Europe. In fact Bosina wouldn't have even happened had the USSR not collapsed. Read "clash of civilizations""

Are you serious dude (yeah I said dude again)? So let me get this straight...you feel that life in the world was better during the existence of the Soviet Union? So when the eastern block of nations was oppressed by the soviets, living in fear, with no future to look forward to, that was a better time for you? So you are saying because you felt safer when the communists were in power, that is the only thing that is important to you? So if it was up to you, you would put those 250 million people back under communist and oppresive rule if it meant you could be happy and feel warm and cozy in your little duplex in Sonoma? Give me a break dude. You are the selfish American I cant stand. Only concerned about your lifestyle and unconcerned about the ____ poor quality of life people live with in other parts of the world. Get over yourself. You are not that important. Id trade yours and my life a thousand times over if it means those 250 million people in Russia and eastern europe can remain free.

And Bosnia wouldnt have happened if France and Germany and the rest of old boy Europe hadnt turned a blind eye to the atrocities occuring there. Funny, World War II wouldnt have happened if the French hadnt turned a blind eye then also...Oh, and it looks like they tried to turn a blind eye to the Iraqi situation too. But who came to save the day AGAIN? Yeah, the big bad mean US with their oppresive and murdering military. Where the Europeans didnt have the balls to make a difference, we decided to come in and do what the rest of the world was too scared to do.

As for your comments regarding the United States lack of democracy. You have shown your true colors in prefering socialism and communism over our current system of government in the US. If thats the case, it is your choice TO LEAVE if you want to. You can stay here in Japan and complain about the country that has given you opportunity to make the choices in life that have brought you here. You can ***** and moan about how unfair the US is and how bad all Americans are. Thats your right as a citizen of the US. I fully respect your God given right to protest the very same government that provides you that right.

Which brings me to your comments about capitalism being a form of pocket book slavery. Thats true ONLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO BECOME A SLAVE. You are not forced to buy that LV bag for your wife. It is a choice. That is what capitalism is all about. Choice. And the United States provides that. If you want to live in a cardboard box, feel free. If you want to buy 1000 LV bags, feel free. No one is made to adhere to certain beliefs or opinions or economic hierarchies. If you work hard you can accomplish anything. If you choose not to work hard, than that is your choice also. Laterthanyou, are you a slave to the pocket book? I would suspect your answer is no. If thats the case, than you have proven my point in full. If your answer is yes, than please, by all means shut the F up and buy your wife the LV bag.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Hal Sidewinder...Who are you dude? Did you make any sense in your message? Ripping on my spelling errors that dont even exist in the original text? You are a certified nutcase...and I never said anything about hating Japan. You have no idea why I am here or what I did in the US, so please shut your big fat man pleaser.

Who am I? Well, I am Hal Sidewinder as a matter of fact. You can't find your own mistakes it seems. Ah, isn't that a surprise? You are in Japan, not in the U.S.A. Enough said. Stop sucking on the socialist tit and stop pretending to be a doctor. Carry on. Continue to destroy your life. We are watching with a bemused grin. Your panties are in bunch. It is rather unseemly to be honest.

[Frungy]

GG, the US government is exactly how you described it- " Taking the decision making process out of the hands of an uneducated and "ignorant" populous. " (your words, not mine). That's what a republic is. Normal people don't know anything about tax codes, environmental regulations, foreign policy, or how bills are made. They don't want to. That's why they elect officials to take care of it for them.

I'd like to hear how you would explain Social Democrats. What is the typical platform for a Social Democrat?

EDIT: actually, forget it. I don't want to hear your butchered answer, since you obviously link them with Marxists and Communists.

[godzillagaijin]

That was such a great post I need to go through it line by line just to make sure I got all of it.

"Who am I? Well, I am Hal Sidewinder as a matter of fact."

Oh, my mistake Mr. Sidewinder. I was unaware I was talking to Gaijinpot royalty...Who does that? Refers to themselves by their screen names. "I am Hal Sidewinder." Like that is supposed to answer all of my questions. I mean, the only other person who does that is Kurogane, who entertainingly refers to himself in Third Person Cave Man from time to time. Oh, the high brow laughs never stop with ole' Kurogane.

"You can't find your own mistakes it seems. Ah, isn't that a surprise?"

What mistake? Research? Are you trying to tell me that you went through my whole post and decided to nail me on a misspelling of research? Dude, I went back and looked at your quote from me, and the word isnt even spelled wrong. Please, for the luva, tell me what is going through your head. It wouldnt make a difference even if I spelled the word wrong.

"You are in Japan, not in the U.S.A. Enough said."

What does that have anything to do with anything? Do my beliefs as a citizen cease because I live abroad? And like writing "enough said" proves your point. WHAT POINT?

"Stop sucking on the socialist tit and stop pretending to be a doctor."

Either I or you have missed something HUGE in this thread. Sucking on socialist tit? Is that a reference to my wife? I dont think she is a socialist...Now that you mention it though, she has been dropping hints about her desire to place all industry under the control of the government...but that is neither here nor there. And the doctor thing...umm...I just have no idea what you could be blathering about there.

"Carry on. Continue to destroy your life. We are watching with a bemused grin."

So, wait...should I stup sucking the socialist tit or carry on sucking it? Im confused...Is the milk from the socialist tit tainted? Is that how I am destroying my life? Can someone please get me some good ole American democratic tit around here? If I dont get some Demo-tit I might not make it. And who is watching? Do you guys have like a Gaijinpot liberal swing party hanging out together watching me on a secret web cam or something? And is bemused a little like sh*t eating? I was never quite sure.

"Your panties are in bunch. It is rather unseemly to be honest."

Oh, now wait a minute...this is kinda scary. You must have planted a camera in my room or else how would you know I like to wear panties? Either that, or you were hiding in the closet when me and your mother were playing dress up last night.

OH THATS RIGHT!!! HERE COME DA MOMMA JOKES!

[godzillagaijin]

Dearest Fungi,

The US is a representative democracy. Sure, if you want to use the term broadly enough, I will allow you to call the US a republic. But usually, in a republic, rights are dictated by a class structure (inherant in the law). That does not exist in the US,though Im sure your argument that the wealthy get away with more than the poor is racing through your mind now. That isnt class structure, that is economic stratus and priveledge. And because the wealth is available to anyone who wishes to work hard enough for it, it can not be deemed a class structure.

And as far as the "ignorant" people of the US are concerned, once again it comes back to choice. An American can choose to learn about the tax codes and regulations if they wish to. The information is public knowledge. But in a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY we elect people to do that for us. Thats the whole point.

Interesting you should bring that up though, because if Kerry gets elected the Federal Government will become more centrist in its approach to governing. That is the Democratic way. On the other hand, Republicans believe in more states rights and personal accountability for its citizens. So if your beef is with the lack of power afforded to the people to govern themselves, than you should be riding the Bush Cheney ticket harder than I rode Hal Sidewinders mom last night.

Listen, I dont think anyone here can argue against the notion that the US possess the best, most efficient and fairest government in the world. There is simply no argument. And yes, the US has problems just like any other country. But the great part is that those problems get fixed via elections and votes. We have come a long way in a short time. This country has been bent on righting its own wrongs at home, and the wrongs of fascist governments abroad.

You can say what you want about my country. But you all can sleep better at night knowing that the US has and always will be there to protect the citizens of the world from oppression. Try and imagine the state of the world today if the US never made it through the Revolution or the Civil War? Where would the worlds citizens be now? I can imagine a world without the French, or the Germans, or the Canadians. But to think about what it would be like without the Americans sends shudders through my bones. We are the worlds police men. Not because we want to, but because no one else will stand up to the challenge.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Either your transmission is different from mine or your panties are pink--COMMIE!!! Japan has socialized medicine. Stop sucking on that tit for example. Thailand calls. Carry on. Camera in place. End of sublimation.

[Hal Sidewinder]

I can imagine a world without the French, or the Germans, or the Canadians. But to think about what it would be like without the Americans sends shudders through my bones. We are the worlds police men. Not because we want to, but because no one else will stand up to the challenge.

Oh God, get a playbook, lunatic fringe. I can imagine a world without the USA without any problem. And I am a citizen of the country just like you. Say what you want, but in reality (that's where the rest of live not you, GiGi) the USA protects its interests (however ill-defined that may be it will have to suffice) not the world's. Excuse me while I vomit... Okay, I feel refreshed. Your message had made me feel ill. When you start bragging about dropping nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki I say that we all send you that ticket to Thailand. Carry on. Learn how to spell and punctuate. Keeps the mind sharp. End of consternation.

[Frungy]

I think the government needs to be in charge of certain key issues. Regulating industry and protecting the workers. Setting environmental codes. Providing social security, healthcare, unemployment benefits, and education to everyone. It's not that radical, you know.

As for having a flat tax accross the entire income spectrum, sure that sounds great and fair. Everyone pays the same tax rate. Except what about the people that are barely surviving, living from one paycheck to the next? It's not due to a lack of effort or laziness. I think that people like ____ Cheney or John Edwards, who made millions of dollars each year, should foot a greater percentage of the bill. They'll survive, and it'll help all the people living at poverty to get on their feet and become full fledged consumers, buying a car, house, TV, whatever you think every American should be able to afford.

And fine, the US is a representative democracy. Still, it takes the decision making process out of the hands of the people- I don't understand where the arguement is.

And on the whole, I agree that the US, as the sole remaining superpower, has a duty to take the lead in protecting the citizens of the world. However, it would be ignorant to believe that the US has never abused that power to serve the bests interests of the US. That's unilateralism.

[Hal Sidewinder]

And on the whole, I agree that the US, as the sole remaining superpower, has a duty to take the lead in protecting the citizens of the world. However, it would be ignorant to believe that the US has never abused that power to serve the bests interests of the US. That's unilateralism.

You are too kind. The USA is not a superpower. It has been a blowhard wannabe superpower since 1945. Russia was the same, but can't be bothered trying to live a lie anymore. Here's the score. A tie in Korea. A loss in Vietnam. Another tie in Iraq. And now two wars at the same time that will be, of course, resounding failures. We will ignore Grenada and other places that take an hour or so to cross by car. Even the Japanese Women's Field Hockey team could have done those jobs. Eritrea has a better winning percentage this century. Eritrea for God's sake!

So what I am saying is that the entire superpower myth is dangerous. The folks in Washington seem to believe it and vote accordingly. Living in the USA is like reading a new history lesson each day. They (liberal and conservative apologists alike) just re-write things until they "feel good" about themselves. Carry on. The whole world is against you unless the money is in the bank. End of Bush Banana Plantation.

[Tako Yaki]

Aside from all the rhetoric about the USA government is the best at this and the fairest at that.
Who or what has given them the right to dictate the style of government other countries must have? Where in the US constitution does it say America will be the worlds police man and if we do not like you we will come in and kill/torture/abuse you in the name of democracy or freedom.

I am not saying that the people of Iraq liked or enjoyed living under Mr Hussains rule, but does this give the USA the right to invade. No. The original justification was WMD, but this has since been dropped in favour of freedom from tyranny, could it be that there were no WMD and the reason for this particular intervention in the name of democracy was really oil. The argument given about sleeping at night whilst people are dying is not so convincing when looking back at the history of the region and the relationship the US had with it, particuarly whilst these people were being killed.

I do not sleep better at night knowing that the US is continuing down its present course of attacking or invading countries that do not agree with its beliefs. It is a course which incite more violence towards the US, violence begets violence begets vioulence. The cycle will never end.

And there is the little thing about 500 or so people held without trial or charge in Guatmo Bay. A humans rights abuse if ever there was.

[Tako Yaki]

Can't really say too much for the original topic apart from Universal Studios ain't bad!

[Hal Sidewinder]

I do not sleep better at night knowing that the US is continuing down its present course of attacking or invading countries that do not agree with its beliefs.

You and a few billion other folks using computers to communciate their concerns. Pocket nukes courtesy of ____ eat-your-hard-on-out Cheney for sale at Wal-Mart as of 2007 just in case the "bad guys" get into your region. .

Carry on. Sorry for the small incoherent contribution to your cogent message. Will learn to communicate. End of transmission.

[godzillagaijin]

Your ramblings Hal get more and more amusing every day...Lining up a scorecard since 1945 is truly a rational way to measure a countries strength...my favorite scorecard number is 300 million people freed since 1945...but I guess those are the kinds of numbers that get forgotten over time...

Tako, it doesnt say that in the Constitution, thats true. But it does say that in the Declaration of Independance. All men are created equal and freedom is a right afforded all people under God (whichever God you worship). For the better part of 2 centuries America has allowed people from all over the world to flock to her shores in the hopes that they may create a better life for themselves. My great grandparents came here, as did nearly 99 percent of the population come from some place else. They came with the dreams of making a better life for their children and families. Now, we see people from around the world without the chance to come to America to improve their standing in life. As a result, we will bring that freedom to them. Through force or aid, we will help the weak and weary and oppressed. This is our nations calling. Politicians or military commanders didnt make that decision, morality and inherant rights under the Almighty did.

Bash all you want , cause we will still help you when you need us. Even if you hate us, we will still have your back.


And as for the kill torture and abuse thing. Give me a break. Do you really think that is what we are doing in Iraq? Sure, some piece of sh*t jar heads decided to make a prison their own personal fun house, but that in no way reflects the real job we are doing there. Maybe along with kill/torture/abuse you should add building schools/creating democracy/ building infrastructure/ etc etc...

[Hal Sidewinder]

And as for the kill torture and abuse thing. Give me a break. Do you really think that is what we are doing in Iraq? Sure, some piece of sh*t jar heads decided to make a prison their own personal fun house, but that in no way reflects the real job we are doing there. Maybe along with kill/torture/abuse you should add building schools/creating democracy/ building infrastructure/ etc etc...

300 000 million people freed? Get off the cheap liquor and porno mags that have you wetting your pants about imaginary events journalist attribute to "leaders" who did jackshit.

Arbil, Iraq: hometown of a good buddy's mom. Know lots about what is really going on in Iraq. Obviously you don't as you speak of what is in the eye of th US media, which you berate but seem to follow like a child looking for cotton candy. They, those folks in Iraq, miss the stability of Saddam's rule, however despotic it was people did know what to expect, and bombs for lunch was not the norm that it is now. That is how well the occupation is going. We are talking about Kurds here, too. Carry on. Wet your pants. Nib is being cleaned. End of conversation.

[Bluedog]

"but that in no way reflects the real job we are doing there. Maybe along with kill/torture/abuse you should add building schools/creating democracy/ building infrastructure/ etc etc"

I find it hard to believe that the US is braving terrorist attacks and everything else that's going on including international dissaproval of the handling of Iraq, just so they can build schools and create democracy. I just don't believe that they are so altruistic. Why should they be? They wouldn't even pretend to be if it didn't happen to be a nice story to paste on top of billion dollar contracts for Halliburton. You don't have to be a left-wing nutter to see that there is something wrong with the whole nation-building story.

If I came over and said I'd paint your house and you threw rocks at me the whole time and all your neighbours threw rocks at me, I'd decide that if you didn't want your house painted, then fair enough, and I'd leave. It's not that the US has been 100% evil and Saddam was a golden boy, but I can't stomach all this "We're doing it for the poor Iraqies" bullsh*t. If they were doing for the Iraqies, why are the reconstruction contracts going to US companies? Of course, because they spent money on the war, they have to recoup their losses, but it just gets further and further away from the whole 'saving the Iraqies' line.

And I'll bet it wasn't a few Jarheads in the prison that was the problem, I'll bet it was a few Jarheads with cameras that has caused all this attention of the prisoner abuses. Military command must have known what was going on there, and ran the prison in the best interests of the US, err, I mean best interests "of the Iraqies". They just didn't count on the digicam phenomena and that the jarheads would be dumb enough to mail out the photos.

[Guy Ginpot]

A 10 Point Guide for the 21 Century

1. With ___ in comfy chair, take Big Mac in Big Mac eating hand, mouse in mouse manipulating hand.
2. Bite Big Mac, then place on wrapper or plate. Click ‘Google’, then release grip on mouse.
3. Type in desired topic. This may take a little thought, but not too much. Click on ‘Search’.
4. Observe findings. If happy, retrieve Big Mac. Bite and scroll.
5. Select topic that suits your intent.
6. Munch and read. Nod, chew, and belch as necessary.
7. Cut and paste any information to support your ideas. Disregard all other information,.
8. Return to Google as often as necessary until your current propaganda quota is fulfilled.
9. Wipe sauce off of chin, lap, and computer as required.
10. Spew propaganda into cyberspace.

Repeat often.

For related Pornography Search,

1. With ___ in comfy chair, take lizard in lizard stroking hand, mouse in mouse manipulating hand.
2. Commence stroking lizard. Click ‘Google’, then release grip on mouse and lizard.
3. Type in desired topic. This may take a little thought, but not too much. Click on ‘Search’.
4. Observe findings. If happy, retrieve lizard. Stroke and scroll.
5. Select topic that suits your intent.
6. Stroke and read. Nod, stroke, and belch as necessary.
7. Cut and paste any information to support your fetish. Disregard all other information,.
8. Return to Google as often as necessary until your current kink quota is fulfilled.
9. Spew spunk into Big Mac.
10. Wipe sauce off of chin, lap, and computer as required.

Return to Propaganda Search with Big Mac.

Repeat often.

the lower case

gg

[Tako Yaki]

As I understand it from your post, your interpretation of the US Decleration of Independance is that America can unilaterally apply it's own values and standards on any country it likes by any means it deems necessary? But wasn't the war of independance, and the subsequent Decleration Of Independance all about throwing off the values and standards of another country forcibly imposed on the US?

A lot of people see this ideal as the US imposing itself on others, and quite naturally get upset and fight back at whatever and whoever they can. The Russians have experienced this BIG time in the last week.

Violence begets violence begets violence.

I am not bashing the US, I am expressing an opinion. That I do not agree with the US mentality on this subject does not make me anti-American, a US hater, or enything else, as I said, simply expressing my opinion.

GG, you can ask for mayo on the big mac you know!

[godzillagaijin]

If your house was covered in asbestos and lead based paint, I would paint it even if you launched rocks at me. Those kinds of things could make me sick and imperil my health, so for the sake of my family and the neighbors around me I would paint that house till the job was finished. Then when I was done painting, you might find that you like your new house, and even be an influence on your other neighbors with untidy and reckless paint jobs. Then after they have repainted all of their houses, our street can live without the fear of getting lung disease or cancer....see how that works?

There is no altruism here. We are building a democracy in Iraq because it ensures OUR own security. We understand that people who dont feel the economic and social oppression under dictatorial regimes find more value in the lives they lead. The war against terrorism is not all a blood war. It is also a war of ideologies. Not one muslim country can claim to live in a democratic society. It is because of this that poverty is rampant, and violent ideologies are popular. If you lived in a dump, had no hope of ever making a good life for yourself and I told you that if you strapped this vest of C4 to your chest and pushed the button on a crowded bus that you would spend eternity at the right hand of allah with 79 virgins at your disposal, you would jump at the chance. What else have you got to live for? The reality you live in is hopeless and futureless, so the only thing these people can hope for is the fantasy provided by radical extremists with their OWN plans on world domination. If, and this is what the US is hoping for, we can supply a beacon of freedom in a region racked with hopelessness that maybe we can change minds of entire countries of people. Then they wont hate what we stand for anymore, and will instead embrace it. Then we wont have to worry about going to school in Russia, or going to work at the WTC.

It aint gonna be easy. And it might take a long time. But you cant argue that a free middle east is better than an oppressed one.

As for Abu Ghraib...Its sad...we f*cked up there big time. But it was isolated, and it has since detracted from the good we have done there. But lets keep in mind who these "innocent" prisoners were that we were doing these horrible things to. Murderers, terrorists and rapists. This was happening at the highest level of security at the prison and these were not nice guys. Im not condonig what they did, but 60 years after the fact, no one is really complaining that Mussolini was strung up in the streets of Italy for all to see.

And to be honest, Im all for state sponsored torture of terrorists if it means that I dont have to wake up one day to find out the company I worked for and 3 of my college friends didnt make it out of the World Trade Center. Im sure once you have gone through something like that, your mind changes on what is tolerable and what isnt. But as long as you are 11,000 miles away from NYC, and you dont have to sit in traffic in midtown Manhattan and smell the burning flesh under the WTC rubble drifting across the tri-state area, you dont have to confront difficult and trying questions like that. I will never forget it. And I am with Bush when he says he will do anything to make sure that doesnt happen again. Anything.

[godzillagaijin]

Wasnt Russia one of the forces AGAINST invading Iraq? Yet there appears to be an Al Qaeda participation with the school seige.

Also, wasnt France against the invasion also? Yet they are fighting for the lives of two of their countrymen in Iraq.

These people dont give a sh*t about anything. They must be put down with the most extreme force possible.

Actually the US was fine with the British rule. That is until they were forced to abide by taxation without the proper representation in the Royal Court. The Iraqis now have their own representatives with national elections months away.

And another thing...When was the last time we ever had to worry about a democratic government giving us problems like they have in the middle east?

[Hal Sidewinder]

Wasnt Russia one of the forces AGAINST invading Iraq? Yet there appears to be an Al Qaeda participation with the school seige.

Also, wasnt France against the invasion also? Yet they are fighting for the lives of two of their countrymen in Iraq.

These people dont give a sh*t about anything. They must be put down with the most extreme force possible.

Actually the US was fine with the British rule. That is until they were forced to abide by taxation without the proper representation in the Royal Court. The Iraqis now have their own representatives with national elections months away.

And another thing...When was the last time we ever had to worry about a democratic government giving us problems like they have in the middle east?

Israel presents a few problems in the Middle East. If you consider Israel democratic please explain. Russia was against the invasion for precisely the reason that it feared increased terrorist activity in its own borders seeing as how it share borders with Islamic majority countries, unlike, say, the USA. France has a lot of Muslims too, but you probably know jack about that.. Germany, also, has a large Muslim community. Do you know about Turkey and the number of ethnic Turks in Germany? You really do not understand much about politics or the world. Carry on. Make a fool of you, your country, and your interpretation of "events". End of transmission.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Kuwait-- a dump?

UAE-- A dump?

Saudi Arabia-- A dump?

Lebanon-- a dump?

Iraq was doing well until a the Iran-Iraq war supported by the US, then one against the US and others, and now another complete with an occupation. It was a secular regime. Yes, Sadaam was a son of *****, but he was "their" son of a ***** as Iraqis often say. Now there will be elections of a Shia majority. What comes after that? The Mosul Tea Party? Dream on. It's a long hard road ahead, and the USA will be long gone before the problems left by the British are ever solved in the Middle East. But you have obviously read little if any history of the region. Whatever, the issue for you is the USA, not the Middle East. Self-serving as ever, right? Humans are capable of much more than self-interest.

Facts are a terrible thing to ignore.

Carry on. End of stipulations


P.S. The first third of a course on religious extremism in a UK university that I am familiar with deals with the USA. Can you understand why? End of transmission.

[godzillagaijin]

yawn.........................

[Hal Sidewinder]

Oh, your feelings are hurt.

No Problem!!!

Get a gun, jerk off with it, gnd go kill the poor in the "name of democracy" while having a super rock hard woody. Will that stop your yawning? Probably, God forbid.

IF you had anything interesting to say about international relations it would fun, but you have to say much more than USA USA USA, which we can all hear on CNN or FOX if we need to remind ourselves to open our eyes and see the lies right in front of us.

Carry on. Massage temples, Wash hands.

End of transmission.

[Guy Ginpot]

Hal

Could you please stop being so honest? You are upsetting the cheerleading lizard. C'mon Hal, give in to the lying propaganda we have come to know and acknowledge. USA USA USA - there is no other way - we will kill you today - no more choice - no more gay - USA USA USA

gg

[Hal Sidewinder]

Hal

Could you please stop being so honest? You are upsetting the cheerleading lizard. C'mon Hal, give in to the lying propaganda we have come to know and acknowledge. USA USA USA - there is no other way - we will kill you today - no more choice - no more gay - USA USA USA

gg

Program re-booted: Let troll amuse the populace.

Carry on.
Hands washed.
End of contractual obligation.

[godzillagaijin]

And dont forget folks, Bush Cheney in 2004! A vote for the future of the free world!

[madmaxxam]

I'm a gaijin, I live in Osaka... I decided to check this thread for the first time. Boy what a mistake. Without getting into the political flame war going on between GG and everyone else, I love being a gaijin in Osaka. There, I said it, the end.

[Hal Sidewinder]

I'm a gaijin, I live in Osaka... I decided to check this thread for the first time. Boy what a mistake. Without getting into the political flame war going on between GG and everyone else, I love being a gaijin in Osaka. There, I said it, the end.

Osaka is great. Be careful who you call a flamer. Some right-wing lunatics have killed for less.

Carry on.
Enjoy yourself in Osaka.
End of transmission.

[kurogane]

Madamxxx,
You are on topic. 9000 bushel of fresh Pocky for your efforts.

Isn't it kind of big and stinky?

Hal, BD, Guy Ginpot,
Thanks. I just can't seem to get it up for the fat turd. He even accused me of verbosity. I wonder who helped him spell it?

So, are Osaka chicks really as skanky as everyone not there likes to think?

[Guy Ginpot]

Hey big lizard

Just to cover some more bases, let's post this highly important information about George W. Bush here too, just so you can curl up all cozy-like and read some of the facts about your hero.

George W. Bush: Part 1

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair08312004.html

the oh so liberal
gg

[madmaxxam]

So, are Osaka chicks really as skanky as everyone not there likes to think?

Well... I'd like to answer this question, but my gf lives in Kyoto prefecture, close to Nara, and I've been dating her most of the time I've been here. However, from the times I've been out to clubs, bars, etc., I'd say that there are a good deal of the skanky variety out there in Osaka. Planning on visiting Kurogane? I know some Japanese women in the area that are looking to meet a gaijin man. (You have to be strong not to cheat when your girlfriend is a tour guide, can be away for several days at a time, and all the Japanese girls think you are cute, handsome, or some combination of the two.)

[laterthanyou]

And laterthanyou...just want to remind you what you said...

"Uh last time I checked, Europe was not this bastion of captialism that you claim.....There's a lot of socialism over there.... Airbus, Medicine, work,etc... I long for the day of the "great big bad" USSR. It was a lot safer than it is now...Even in Europe. In fact Bosina wouldn't have even happened had the USSR not collapsed. Read "clash of civilizations""

Are you serious dude (yeah I said dude again)? So let me get this straight...you feel that life in the world was better during the existence of the Soviet Union? So when the eastern block of nations was oppressed by the soviets, living in fear, with no future to look forward to, that was a better time for you? So you are saying because you felt safer when the communists were in power, that is the only thing that is important to you? So if it was up to you, you would put those 250 million people back under communist and oppresive rule if it meant you could be happy and feel warm and cozy in your little duplex in Sonoma? Give me a break dude. You are the selfish American I cant stand. Only concerned about your lifestyle and unconcerned about the ____ poor quality of life people live with in other parts of the world. Get over yourself. You are not that important. Id trade yours and my life a thousand times over if it means those 250 million people in Russia and eastern europe can remain free.

Do you agree with me or not that the world was a safer place when their were two superpowers in the world? I was in Russia in '92. I saw 2 shootings (one was a cop shot in the head outside my hotel) One knifing, numerous beatdowns, and had a gun pointed at me by russian mafia on the Arobot street flea market. It was literally like the wild west. Ask all the family members of the 250,000 dead (U.S. State Dept) from Bosnia, Chechnya, Serbia, Russia what they prefer.


And Bosnia wouldnt have happened if France and Germany and the rest of old boy Europe hadnt turned a blind eye to the atrocities occuring there. Funny, World War II wouldnt have happened if the French hadnt turned a blind eye then also...Oh, and it looks like they tried to turn a blind eye to the Iraqi situation too. But who came to save the day AGAIN? Yeah, the big bad mean US with their oppresive and murdering military. Where the Europeans didnt have the balls to make a difference, we decided to come in and do what the rest of the world was too scared to do.

Please don't pretend that we are morally superior, We entered Bosina, because it was destablizing the region. West Europe didn't do anything b/c they expected the U.S.A. to get involved. Why get their hands dirty, and pick sides when the americans will come in anyway. Why didn't we go into Rwanda? You think it's because the only resource that region has is sand? We didn't care. Nor did we care in Guatemala, Uganda, Angola, East Timor, Kurdistan, Liberia, and Zaire. WW1 and WW2 are connected. If the versaille treaty hadn't been so patently unfair to Germany, the war reperations wouldn't have caused such a crushing recession, allowing the national socialist party to rise to power. The Versaille Treay was created by Britan, The U.S.A., France and Italy. As you know also WW2 was not just in Europe either, so I don't understand what you mean on how France could have stopped WW2. Our war with japan would have still happened regardless. We would declare war on Japan and then Germany would have to declare war on us because of treaty obligations to Japan. Can you please tell me why we declared neutrality September 5 1939? Maybe to make money? The morally superior U.S.A. already knew about the existence of the concentration camps. Secretary of State Cordell Hull issued a mild statement to the American ambassador to Berlin complaining that "unfortunate incidents have indeed occurred and the whole world joins in regretting them." He expressed his personal belief, however, that the reports of anti-Jewish violence were probably exaggerated. What's funny too is that Canada declared war on Germany and Italy on September 10,1939. Funny only by way of your earlier comments...Please don't take my comments above as hatred against America...I much prefer the U.S.A. to any other country I've ever been to. It just really bothers me that you don't know what you are talking about. Your notmuch better than uyoku.


As for your comments regarding the United States lack of democracy. You have shown your true colors in prefering socialism and communism over our current system of government in the US. If thats the case, it is your choice TO LEAVE if you want to. You can stay here in Japan and complain about the country that has given you opportunity to make the choices in life that have brought you here. You can ***** and moan about how unfair the US is and how bad all Americans are. Thats your right as a citizen of the US. I fully respect your God given right to protest the very same government that provides you that right.

Do you even understand what I'm saying? I never said I prefer Socialism. At most I would like to see a nationalized healthcare system. I hate dealing with insurance companies.... Always trying to get out of paying the bills.

America is a REPUBLIC. Always has been.
James Madison wrote in the Federalist Paper 10:
"Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."
You will hear many people say that we are a "democracy". In a democracy, the will of the majority is law. Anything is allowed, provided that the majority approves. There are no checks and balances, and the rights of the individual are not protected.

Here's a quote from the U.S. Army training Manual: TM2000-05,

Democracy, n. "A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy."

Is that the United States or is this?

U.S. Army training Manual: TM2000-05,

Republic: Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of

(1) an executive and (2) a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create (3) a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their government acts and to recognize (4) certain inherent individual rights.

Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy.

Atwood: Superior to all others.--Autocracy declares the divine right of kings; its authority can not be questioned; its powers are arbitrarily or unjustly administered. Democracy is the "direct" rule of the people and has been repeatedly tried without success. Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They "made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy * * * and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic."

I prefer America because it is safer, cheaper, and less racist than other countries. I also speak the language. At the same time I'm not blind to whats going on in our country. Also like it or not, our political system is fixed in a way now that is not so far from communisim. Because of gerrymandering my vote is essentially worthless when voting for representation in congress and state senate. The outcome has already been decided because of the way the voting district lines have been drawn. My vote only really counts in lower regional elections (many times though only one party fields a candidate for any given position) U.S. Senate and the Presidency



Which brings me to your comments about capitalism being a form of pocket book slavery. Thats true ONLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO BECOME A SLAVE. You are not forced to buy that LV bag for your wife. It is a choice. That is what capitalism is all about. Choice. And the United States provides that. If you want to live in a cardboard box, feel free. If you want to buy 1000 LV bags, feel free. No one is made to adhere to certain beliefs or opinions or economic hierarchies. If you work hard you can accomplish anything. If you choose not to work hard, than that is your choice also.

uhhh do you know what capitalism is? You didn't describe it. Everything that you said could be done under socialism and communisim as well. I'm going to end it here for now. Please say more funny ignorant things so I can refute them and feel smart.

[laterthanyou]

I'm really impressed by everyone's arguments against GG! My comments seem so weak compartively... Good job. Pardon the spelling...

[godzillagaijin]

You can break out all your army manuals and all your versaille treaties. There really isnt an argument here. But, since you asked I will respond, but with a less winded approach.

Concerning your feelings that the 250,000 members of Bosnia, Chechnya, etc would like to have the Soviet Union back in power is ridiculous...Heres what we'll do, buddy...you go ask your 250,000 families whether they want Communism back and Ill go ask the 40,000,000 families of the victims who were murdered under Stalin if THEY want communism back. I might get a few more signatures on my list.

And as for America only entering the conflict in Bosnia because it was destabilizing the region...and because the European allies were waiting for us to do something...
THATS MY WHOLE POINT KNUCKLE HEAD...We act when others shy from the challenge...WE save the world when no one else will.

And as for your whole treaty of versaille blabber, I could really care less. Mistakes were made, but when crunch time came around in the days leading to WWII, France and the rest of Europe did nothing, they let Hitler take Austria and Bovaria and a bunch of other -ia's that the French were willing to give up if it meant they didnt have to throw down their gloves and fight a real war.

And Japan would not have attacked us without Germany on their side. Infact they wouldnt have gone into Manchuria or any other -ia if it wasnt for the support of Nazis on the other side of the world. But I like how you have taken away all value and meaning of our involvement in WWII and reduced the USs actions to money grubbing and passing the buck on concentration camps. Real class act you are.

And I couldnt give a rats ___ about Madisons Federalist papers. Maybe you should read your history books and see that we are governed under the eyes of the Constitution, not the Federalist papers.

And as for your spelling bee definition lesson. Its a representative democracy. Ive said it before and Ill say it again. So why dont you stack your Army manual next to the Federalist papers in the toilet cause I dont wanna here it.

Capitalism: An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

Now theres a definition you can stick up your tight liberal ___. You couldnt buy a LV bag in Communist Russia, not even if you waited on line for 9 hours...and a Socialist country will only allow you to buy the LV Bag if the government itself has decided to open a LV factory. Free market babs, that means choice. Little or no government intervention and individual rights for both consumer and for the corporation. Does socialism have that? Nien. Does communism have that? Nyet.

And as for socialized medicine, that works great. Have you seen the mouths of teeth coming out of Canada, Britian and Japan? There is a direct result of socialized medicine. What about the people who come to the US to not only learn to be a doctor, but to also treat themselves and their family members. Do they do this because of the fantastic state of social medicine in their countries? No. They do it because America has the BEST medicines, doctors and hospitals. THis is because of the current state of the system. Im willing to haggle for a few hours about a medical bill if it means we are going to get the best treatment available on the earth. Once we start lowering the pay for doctors, the good ones will move to other professions. Then we will have mediocre health care for all our citizens. And our pharmaceutical companies (also the best in the world) will not bother making new and important medicines and cures because the money just wont be there. Again, choice comes to forefront. I want to know that I can count on Johns Hopkins being there if I get cancer. Or Beth Isreal if my father has a heart attack. If you want your children living in a society that offers half assed doctors, feel free to relocate to Vancouver. At least when you get Cancer there you can smoke some primo dope to ease the pain while your waiting in line for six months to see your primary care physician.

Listen, Im sure you were up for the last two days "readying" your argument for its big Gaijinpot debut. Frantically searching the internet for Army manuals and neato quotes from the Federalist papers. But I really couldnt care one way or the other. Just another blow hard liberal looking at the past to try and rationalize today.

Great pal, now you have rationalized the present situation and the past 100 years. Now if you want to really impress me and all your other liberal train hoppers why dont you answer this question.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TODAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE FACE TODAY?

Liberals dont have answers for these questions. They just pine and whine about the past. What would you have done differently? And now that we have problems like Iraq and international terrorism, and domestic threats...what would YOU do if you had the power of the presidency?...come on whiz kid, impress me.

Carry on.
End of nocturnal emission.

[laterthanyou]

And Japan would not have attacked us without Germany on their side. Infact they wouldnt have gone into Manchuria or any other -ia if it wasnt for the support of Nazis on the other side of the world. But I like how you have taken away all value and meaning of our involvement in WWII and reduced the USs actions to money grubbing.

And I couldnt give a rats ___ about Madisons Federalist papers. Maybe you should read your history books and see that we are governed under the eyes of the Constitution, not the Federalist papers.

Listen, Im sure you were up for the last two days "readying" your argument for its big Gaijinpot debut. Frantically searching the internet for Army manuals and neato quotes from the Federalist papers. But I really couldnt care one way or the other. Just another blow hard liberal looking at the past to try and rationalize today.


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TODAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE FACE TODAY?

Liberals dont have answers for these questions. They just pine and whine about the past. What would you have done differently? And now that we have problems like Iraq and international terrorism, and domestic threats...what would YOU do if you had the power of the presidency?...come on whiz kid, impress me.

They are just facts man. You see the U.S. as this altruistic country. I see it motivated by a need for power and money. I agree that the stalinist purges as well as mao's great leap forward pretty much make everything that's happened in the last 15 years after communism pale in comparison when looking at death tolls. My original argument was that the world was a safer place due to the fact that the world was polarized in choosing sides. Capitalism or Communism. Either the USA was your ally or enemy. Now it's more of a free for all... It was foolish of me to bring in body counts to try and win an argument. I don't dispute that France and England fumbled the ball in Europe, but he fact remains that The U.S. declared neutrality for a full 2 years after the war began in Europe. Why did it take 2 years for us to enter the war? Churchhill was begging us to declare war way before Dec 7, 1941. I don't agree that Japan wouldn't have attacked us without support from Germany. They "liberated" (japan's words) Manchuria in 1931 before the Nazi's even had an elected seat in Germany so I don't see how that argument works. Would japan have attacked us without the axis treaty signed? I don't know. I think they might have. Who knows? It's a good thing we ended up going in to Europe, but the Nazis would have still lost if we hadn't entered the into it. The Russians would have rolled all the way into England eventually. I was just using the Army and Fedralist texts to prove my point instead of making up facts to support my arguments. The entire purpose of The Federalist Papers was to gain popular support for the then-proposed Constitution. They teach that in History books....Thank you for finally describing capitalism correctly. I was actually working these last couple of days. Sorry. What would I do if I were president? Pretty much the same thing. Feed the citizens a pack of lies about WMDs, liberation, etc....Invade, supress the population, control the oil supply and share it with my friends for a price. Keep gas cheap, keep america happy. We don't solve problems..we solve OUR problems....I'm not liberal. I'm not conservitive. I'm trying to potty train my son.

[godzillagaijin]

Your concessions make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...but still the questions remains...

What would you do today to solve the problems we face today?

Dont slip by the question using sarcasm and rhetoric. Answer it. I invite ANY liberal to offer me a package of solutions and to postulate on why and how they expect them to succeed. If you dont have a solution to the problem then sit back in the bleacher seats and watch the game unfold Bushs way.


p.s. You honestly believe Naziism would have been defeated without the USs help? Russia barely made it out of that war, and the only reason they did is because of the brutal winter and Hitlers insistence to fight a two front war agains the US.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Your concessions make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...but still the questions remains...

What would you do today to solve the problems we face today?

p.s. You honestly believe Naziism would have been defeated without the USs help? Russia barely made it out of that war, and the only reason they did is because of the brutal winter and Hitlers insistence to fight a two front war agains the US.

The European War was pretty much over by the time the USA got in to help mop things up on the other front. Read some history books before making yourself vunerable to reasonable assaults on your ignorance. Russia defeated the better part of the German forces for goodness sakes with weather and some rare good military choices. Why do you think they were in such tough shape and wanted to carve up Europe?

The first thing we can do today to solve the problems we face is say goodbye to dumbasses.

Bye GiGi!
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[godzillagaijin]

You guys are all excited to talk about the past, but the second I ask about what you would do to solve the problems we face today everyone backs down...

Hal came back with a classic sarcastic answer with no merit...Laterthanyou still hasnt answered the question...so lets try this again and see if I can get an answer...

What would you do to solve the problems we face today?

[bilharzia]

If you don't mind me interceding, I'd like to answer that one.

But before I do, I think it's fair to say that keeping an eye on the past is no bad thing in order to learn how best to proceed in the future.

Let's take France as an example. In the 60's they tried to force a largely muslim population to become more "democratic" by military force, fighting against terrorsts to boot, but the result was an utter catastrophe as the history of Algeria has shown.

Basically they were fighting more than just terrorists, but terrorists caught up in a nationalistic fever.

The same is true with the Israelis at the end of the 40's, and the zionists were too strong for the British protectorate to do anything about. That's also why there is probably no end in sight to the latest cycle of violence in Palestine, because the terrorists there have a strong nationalistic cause.

On the other hand if you look at terror movements without nationalism, they soon run out of steam. Look at the Maoists that struck Europe in the 70's and 80's - they basically didn't strike a cord with the general population and soon petered out.

So the significance of this is that you can't fight terrorism with invasion, brute force, or by claiming you are trying to do a great civilising program. The results are likely to produce resentment and a feeling of nationalism, and the effects will be bloody.

What's the alternative? Well those damn social democracies of Europe have a preffered solution. Slow, institutional engagement. It has procurred peace in western Europe for 6 decades, and is beginning to have effects further afield. Witness the disarmament of Libya.
For all Bush's bragging, that was essentially a European success - by the British and especially the Germans. You may argue that it was a result of the US postering on the Iraqi border at the time, but that would be disengenuous: it didn't produce that result in the first Gulf war, and didn't this time around.

Both Qaddafi and Saddam have been demonised in their time, and both have been dealt with in different ways. But which population do you think is happier now? Why do you think the Shias in Iraq are now insurrecting, when they were principally the population Bush was supposed to liberate? It's because the gung-ho manner that our friend the OP so vehemently supports has just upset a huge nationalistic hornets nest.

If you want an alternative way to bring peace, then use means that dissipate nationalism, not encourage it. I hope America too can learn from history, and approach Iran and Korea in a more intelligent and patient way in the next few years.

[Hal Sidewinder]

You guys are all excited to talk about the past, but the second I ask about what you would do to solve the problems we face today everyone backs down...

Hal came back with a classic sarcastic answer with no merit...Laterthanyou still hasnt answered the question...so lets try this again and see if I can get an answer...

What would you do to solve the problems we face today?

Not programmed for sarcasm. And that's Mr. Sidewinder for you, GiGi.

Fine, if you can't read between the lines of all the previous posters then I will spell it out carefully the sorts of changes that would make a big difference in the world today.

We, the USA, will arm the Kurds to the teeth, make friends with Iran, and let the Sunnis fend for themselves with the aid of Saudi Arabia. If Iraq disappears that's just the way the ball bounces. Next we will stop subsidizing Israel to the tune of 3 billion a year. That done US troops can leave Iraq ASAP and let bygones be bygones.

The so-called Arab world will then see that Israel is no longer a special citizen in the US "family". If Israel can make it on its own that's great. If it can't then that's the way the cookie crumbles The next ten years of fighting among Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and Kuwait (Saudi Arabia just finances things these days as observers are well aware) will be just the sort of instability the USA wants in the Middle East anyway. Read anything by Kissinger to understand exactly what this means.

Further, just for good measure among natural allies, the Monroe Doctrine will be scrapped as it is insulting to the Americas. All efforts being wasted in Iraq will be made in Afghanistan to find Bin Laden.

And finally, you will be made redundant thereby creating more bandwidth for intelligent and witty posters with a concern for the future, not for winning one single presidential election in 2004.

It is clear that September 11, 2001 taught you nothing. I was in New York so your sob stories really do nothing for me except tell me that your emotional reaction is based on fear, much like Rove wants it to be. You are a puppet or a muppet. You can decide which. The stupidity of US foreign policy that you support will only mean more deaths stemming from terrorism in the USA in the future. Welcome to the real world that France, Germany, Russia, the UK, and so on have dealt with for decades. Terrorism will continue. A war in Iraq will not stop a thing. Time will only show you that these other posters are quite correct in their disgust. The current regime in Washington has created a terrorist problem in Iraq. Just wait until things get organized. The worst is yet to come. I pity you. You have no idea about Middle Eastern culture, let alone history. Not a friggin' clue.

Carry on.
Dream on.
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[godzillagaijin]

[QUOTE=Hal Sidewinder]

"We, the USA, will arm the Kurds to the teeth, make friends with Iran, and let the Sunnis fend for themselves with the aid of Saudi Arabia. If Iraq disappears that's just the way the ball bounces. Next we will stop subsidizing Israel to the tune of 3 billion a year. That done US troops can leave Iraq ASAP and let bygones be bygones.

The so-called Arab world will then see that Israel is no longer a special citizen in the US "family". If Israel can make it on its own that's great. If it can't then that's the way the cookie crumbles The next ten years of fighting among Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and Kuwait (Saudi Arabia just finances things these days as observers are well aware) will be just the sort of instability the USA wants in the Middle East anyway. Read anything by Kissinger to understand exactly what this means.

Further, just for good measure among natural allies, the Monroe Doctrine will be scrapped as it is insulting to the Americas. All efforts being wasted in Iraq will be made in Afghanistan to find Bin Laden."

So thats it huh? Let me get this straight...your answer is to allow the Middle East to flame up into some giant war with millions of people dying and just "let them fend for themselves."

And as for Israel, we are just going to stop giving them support and see how the "cookie crumbles." Maybe unleash another genocide of 10 or 20 million people?

And the Monroe Doctorine should be abolished leaving any country in our hemisphere vulnerable to the whims of any invading force...Interesting...

Well, I dont think Im the only one here who can see that Hal is out of his mind. Hals solution to the whole problem is some grand system of Social Darwinism...what are we going to do in the mean time Hal? Build a wall around the US and shoot anyone coming or going? Please tell me this is a joke...

Assuming Hals post was a joke, my question still remains...anyone else have a viable answer that wont result in the self imposed isolation of the US and the death of millions of people?

[godzillagaijin]

Your French and British examples really bear no comparison as they were trying to colonialize the regions in which they were confronted with resistance. What we are doing in Iraq is different and you know that.

And as for the peace being held for 6 decades in Europe, as I remember the way in which we attained that peace was via brute force and invasion of VERY nationalistic societies and governments. Same can be said of Japan. The institutional change was not slow, it was swift and brutal.

We allowed slow institutional change to occur in Eastern Europe and that hasnt really shown much of a result yet. Except for economic crisis and genocide in some of the regions.

And as for Libya, the negotiations have been going on for years. And yes, it was not all the USs lining up at Iraqs border. But I feel that may have been icing on Qaddafis peace cake. That and the stiff economic sanctions that have threatened his rule. He wants into the freeworld market place. And to do that, he has to be a good boy. Again, economics and capitalism were major factors in forcing him to turn around. As it was with Communist Russia. I feel this same force will help sway the middle east. But in some cases, we dont have the time to allow this to happen.

While we are waiting to take the "slow" road to bringing these people around, what do we do in the mean time? We arent talking about old school wars and battles that take years to develop and prepare for. We are talking about one man, with one suitcase sitting in Central park and pressing a button. Do we have time to wait with people like that roaming our streets? Do we have time to wait for North Korea to implode economically and HOPE he doesnt launch a missle at Japan? Or will that implossion be just the cause he needs to push HIS little button.

AS for middle eastern nationalism, it has been on the steady decline since this whole fiasco has started. They are finally starting to look inwards and see that these barbaric acts are giving them a bad name. Plus, it isnt so much a nationalism as it is a religious fervor. No one is praising Kings and Princes...they are praising Allah. The terrorists are doing a fine job showing their own people that their cause is a ruthless and non-muslim one.

But your post isnt specific enough. What do you do specifically to combat this? Your "slow" approach may solve problems in the long haul, but it will require western and free nations to endure regular terrorist attacks in the meantime...Im sure no country can allow that to happen.

[kurogane]

Sooo, let me get this straight. Being a foreigner in Osaka has a direct causal link to being a blinkered right-wing ideologue who seems to believe that apologising for rapacious fascist imperialism by making it sound altruistic will somehow mollify all the victims of that very altruism?

Like I said before, glad I live in Kyoto.

PS: no offence to anyone else that lives in Osaka, esp. those Skanky Skanky Girls. imTony, Madmaxx is gonna set me up with some. Wanna get in on that Pocky?

[Hal Sidewinder]

Your French and British examples really bear no comparison as they were trying to colonialize the regions in which they were confronted with resistance. What we are doing in Iraq is different and you know that.

Wrong. Bombs from the IRA are terrorism. Let's leave your stupidty at that for now. I do not want to go through all the terrorist attacks that have happened all over Europe.


And as for the peace being held for 6 decades in Europe, as I remember the way in which we attained that peace was via brute force and invasion of VERY nationalistic societies and governments. Same can be said of Japan. The institutional change was not slow, it was swift and brutal.

Wrong. The European Union wasnot made by brute force. The Second World War finished a long time ago. What has come after has been hard work and diplomacy.

We allowed slow institutional change to occur in Eastern Europe and that hasnt really shown much of a result yet. Except for economic crisis and genocide in some of the regions.

Wrong. "We" did not allow anything. Russia is the big dog there in case you have not noticed. Guess you watch too much TV. Go figure. The European Union is doing one hell of a good job in dealing with Russia. Much better than the USA is doing. I guess you don't know about such things.

And as for Libya, the negotiations have been going on for years. And yes, it was not all the USs lining up at Iraqs border. But I feel that may have been icing on Qaddafis peace cake. That and the stiff economic sanctions that have threatened his rule. He wants into the freeworld market place. And to do that, he has to be a good boy. Again, economics and capitalism were major factors in forcing him to turn around. As it was with Communist Russia. I feel this same force will help sway the middle east. But in some cases, we dont have the time to allow this to happen.

Wrong. The British did a huge amount of diplomatic work there as they want oil from there. Osaka must not get much world news or you don't know how to read. Which one is it?

While we are waiting to take the "slow" road to bringing these people around, what do we do in the mean time? We arent talking about old school wars and battles that take years to develop and prepare for. We are talking about one man, with one suitcase sitting in Central park and pressing a button. Do we have time to wait with people like that roaming our streets? Do we have time to wait for North Korea to implode economically and HOPE he doesnt launch a missle at Japan? Or will that implossion be just the cause he needs to push HIS little button.

Wrong. The USA has no response to Bin Laden (well, minimal so far) or North Korea (a chat every now and then). There are cells in the USA and you are talking about "slow roads". Well, you and the US government are way behind. No surprise there you are both watching CNN and Fox for intelligence reports.

AS for middle eastern nationalism, it has been on the steady decline since this whole fiasco has started. They are finally starting to look inwards and see that these barbaric acts are giving them a bad name. Plus, it isnt so much a nationalism as it is a religious fervor. No one is praising Kings and Princes...they are praising Allah. The terrorists are doing a fine job showing their own people that their cause is a ruthless and non-muslim one.

Wrong. Arab nationalism is not about religion. Only a donkey could ever write that and think it was anywher near the truth. Kurds and Arabs share the same religion, but despise each other. The Turks and the Arabs share the same religion and despise each other. You, again, are simply wrong. Arab nationalism continues to grow with each day Israel exists. It's a simple fact of Arab reality. I may not agree with it, but it is accepted. I scoff at your mention of "barbaric acts" and Arabs when the USA has killed tens of thousands of Iraqis over the years. You remind me of Stalin's famous quotation, which I doubt you even know.


But your post isnt specific enough. What do you do specifically to combat this? Your "slow" approach may solve problems in the long haul, but it will require western and free nations to endure regular terrorist attacks in the meantime...Im sure no country can allow that to happen.

My post is rather specific. You simply are too stupid and ill-informed to understand it. My approach is far more radical than anything you have ever proposed or imagined. It would unleash WW III. The fact that you did not understand the joke simply means that you are even more daft than Kurogane has bothered to mention as he is a gentleman and a scholar.


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[madmaxxam]

GAH!!!! All this g-d damn political discussion. Gonna go insane. *Just keep telling yourself that it's great to be a gaijin in Osaka*

[Hal Sidewinder]

It's great to be alive anywhere, even the poorest most dangerous places on earth. And I have been to a few of those so I ain't talking out my butt. Live it up while you can be it in Osaka or Jijiga.

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[godzillagaijin]

Hal it has become tiresome to even respond to you. All of your responses to my last post didnt make sense as they were taken out of context. I was responding to someone else, not your self-centeredness. So if youd like, Ill give you another chance to go back and respond if you actual look at the context in which my original message was posted. But Im serious Hal, this is the last time...ok buddy?


But I would like to look at the raging pathologies exhibited in your post...they were quite nice..here we go..

"Wrong. Bombs from the IRA are terrorism. Let's leave your stupidty at that for now. I do not want to go through all the terrorist attacks that have happened all over Europe."

The Original statement was in response to the British involvement in the Middle East...nothing mentioned about Ireland, lad. Again, taken out of context. Maybe you should read the prior posts before opening your big yap.

"Wrong. The European Union wasnot made by brute force. The Second World War finished a long time ago. What has come after has been hard work and diplomacy."

Again, contextual oversight by the esteemed Hal. The original text I was responding to was from our friend and your socialist comrade Bilharzia and it went like this:　"Slow, institutional engagement. It has procurred peace in western Europe for 6 decades, and is beginning to have effects further afield." So in actuality we were talking about something completely different than the EU. So again, keep the yap shut Hal. The yap shut.

"Wrong. The British did a huge amount of diplomatic work there as they want oil from there. Osaka must not get much world news or you don't know how to read. Which one is it?"

My point exactly Hal. We want what Libya has, and Libya wants to sell it. My entire point about capitalism having a great effect on what happened there. And yes Hal, it has been difficult for me to read lately. Especially your drivel and sometimes incoherant ramblings.

"Wrong. The USA has no response to Bin Laden (well, minimal so far) or North Korea (a chat every now and then). There are cells in the USA and you are talking about "slow roads". Well, you and the US government are way behind. No surprise there you are both watching CNN and Fox for intelligence reports."

Oh my. Im not even sure you read my post. Again, out of context. I was responding to another post that said slow roads were the answer. I said exactly the same thing you did. With cells in the US how can we afford to take a slow road? So I guess we agree Hal! Isnt that great! Im sure you are very surprised. God knows I am. See Hal, you were so excited to just shout "wrong" to the world that you actually ended up agreeing with me. Same thing with the Libya comment you posted....Now Hal, if you dont slow down and read carefully next time, you might agree with me 100%...and that would make you a right wing conservative...carefull Hal, we wouldnt want that now would we?

Another thing...I think when we have Bin Laden hiding in a f*ckin cave in the middle of no where, one of our policies must have worked. The guy is scared sh*tless. Not to mention the 1000 or so allies and leaders of al qaeda we have locked away behind bars or burried in shallow graves. And give me a break about North Korea...Tell me Hal, since you were so against the invasion of Iraq, are you saying now we should just invade North Korea? Remember Hal...think before you talk...

"Wrong. Arab nationalism is not about religion. Only a donkey could ever write that and think it was anywher near the truth. Kurds and Arabs share the same religion, but despise each other. The Turks and the Arabs share the same religion and despise each other. You, again, are simply wrong. Arab nationalism continues to grow with each day Israel exists. It's a simple fact of Arab reality. I may not agree with it, but it is accepted. I scoff at your mention of "barbaric acts" and Arabs when the USA has killed tens of thousands of Iraqis over the years. You remind me of Stalin's famous quotation, which I doubt you even know."

Let me ask you a question Hal...When you talk to real people in public, do you ever listen to the words coming out of your mouth? I mean, do you posses the part of the brain that stops excrement from being released into conversation? How can you have Arab nationalism? I mean, I guess you could if you were from Arabia..but there isnt a country named that. I dont think anyone can take you seriously when you say that nationalism in Arab countries is not connected to the Muslim faith. Every demonstration is led with "Allah Akbar" chants. Every discussion comes down to talks about Muslim faith and law. ALL of the Arab countries have been founded on Muslim laws found in the Quran. Please Hal, try and control the verbal vomit you set forth into the world.

And I love the Stalins famous quote line. Thats great. Is that for real? Im sure Stalin said alot of things. So you are right Hal, I have no idea what you are talking about. I apologize sincerely for not piecing together all of Stalins quotes to try and read the mind of a lunatic like yourself. Please Hal, impress me with your knowledge of communist lore.

And about your whole joke thing Hal, give it a rest. Tell the truth now Hally, you only said it was a joke after you saw how ridiculous it was...come on now buddy, remember....Before you say stupid stuff count to ten...than maybe you want have to make up some stupid lie that "it was a joke" to try and save some face.

But if it was a joke Hal, you have just proven my point further...No one has given an answer to my question and I doubt anyone will. Whiners and complainers...thats all you are. Problem solvers you aint. Thank god Bush is in office because at least he will do something about the problems. Sure, you might not agree with his policies, but until you offer up a valid solution of your own you are just gonna have to follow the big dog down the path.

And the liberal silence continues...

[madmaxxam]

Why do you bother coming here to 'fight the fight' as you may. Seriously, as I see it, it's a complete waste of time for you to argue politics here, and here's why:

1) Either you really do care about politics, political issues, etc., in which case your time would be much better speant elsewhere. Why waste your arguments on the people you percieve as the 'liberal girls' who aren't going to change their minds no matter how much you throw your 'infallible logic' at them? Your time is much better speant heading off to Ohio or Florida to convince those 'on the fence' individuals who will be the ones responsible for electing the next president. Get them to re-elect your precious Bush for you.

2) You don't really care that much, and you're just here to troll. In that case, troll away, but I already see you're getting diminishing returns.

Anyway, if you feel the need to stay here, carry on. Continue to voice your political opinions, theories, ideologies, etc. in a forum where you'll, in the long run, have no net effect on anything. However, remember that all of the best generals in history knew how to choose their battles.

[laterthanyou]

You make statements that are half truths. When people point out that you are wrong and back it up with facts you ignore it completely. At least be a man and admit a mistake. Are you so arrogant that you can't admit ignorance on a more or less anonymous Internet forum?.

Honestly answer these questions.

What were the reasons we went into Iraq?

What were the reasons we didn't go into Rwanda?

I'd ask about other places we didn't go, but I imagine your answers would be similar. Rwanda will suffice.

[laterthanyou]

I would not have gone into Iraq. I would stop supporting Israel.

[Hal Sidewinder]

I would not have gone into Iraq. I would stop supporting Israel.

That GiGi is the saddest excuse for a troll I have seen for a long time.

Osaka is great. Too bad it is home to a whiner of epic proportions. The people in Osaka are famous for their open-minded nature and common courtesy. That must explain how GiGi is still alive. He has yet to answer any question (implied of course) posed to him by me. It's all "me, me, me" with that troll. "My rules, my context (which means the context of a troll), my way of thinking." The guy makes my desk seem resourceful. He is a simple hoax. He couldn't find the Middle East on a map unless it was labeled in block letters. Fox TV has its muppet.

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[kurogane]

And the really funny part is that he of the endless garbage post is the one that accused ME of verbosity. Turgidity I can live with, but verbosity???????????

Ah, well. As Hawkeye Pierce taught us, "Love your enema"

[Morning Star]

Godzilla;
Weren't you the one in Waikiki on Halloween a few years ago with the placard that read something like, "F*CKING HAOLE - Will trade disease and death for your women and land" Its a small world after all, isn't it?

[stillnosheep]

Sometimes I allow the thought to cross my mind that the only reason that I post a reply to the long-winded garbage-breath is that it ups my post-count and brings the day closer when I too may aspire to the Elyssian Fields of GrandMasterPotdom ...

Wow!

No longer am I a Junior Member!

Drinks are on me boys!

[godzillagaijin]

Godzilla;
Weren't you the one in Waikiki on Halloween a few years ago with the placard that read something like, "F*CKING HAOLE - Will trade disease and death for your women and land" Its a small world after all, isn't it?

I see my reputation preceeds me...all the way to Japan. And to be kind to history it said:

(on the front) F*CKIN HAOLE

(on the back) WILL TRADE: Your woman and land for slavery and disease

And I was wearing my most deplorable touristy Aloha Shirt purchased that day at the International Marketplace for a mere $9 and a half chicken dinner.

My question is how could you have possibly made the connection between that person and me even given the photos on my web site? Unless of course you live in the Chateau...and if thats true then you possess the only known pictures of said Halloween costume.

But if you are not the same person...doesnt knowing that I went out in a Halloween costume like that COMPLETELY change your opinion about me? I mean, how could it not, right?

[Hal Sidewinder]

Translation of GiGi's last message:

"Look at me"
"ME"
"MEEEEEE"

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Osaka has great yakiniku restaurants.

[godzillagaijin]

Well Hal, your mom did say I was a handsome devil...and not half bad in the sack either.

[ananda]

so....ummmm....what IS it like to be a gaijin in osaka???

[godzillagaijin]

Osaks is great...a little too much on the conservative side...but as long as you dont make direct eye contact with the right wing wackos they wont bother you.

[ananda]

funny, that is not how i would describe it......have you lived anywhere else in japan?

[ananda]

the original question was referring to the title of your thread.....what is it like to be a GAIJIN in osaka....is that why you think it is conservative, because of the GAIJIN thing??

[godzillagaijin]

I was kidding. Osaka is a great place, with great people. Open and friendly and honest.

Which is more than I can say for the Democrats:

http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/wmd.htm

Take a looksy.

[ananda]

i am a canadian living in japan...i will pass.

[bluespike]

Hey GG,

Keep up the posts - this is the most amusing thing I've read in years.... would prefer it if the others responded to you as well, I'm here enjoying all this immensely....

As an outsider to the arguments, BOTH sides have presented comments and arguments that the other has ignored. When someone presents documentation that proves a point - you have to acknowledge it. Both sides have done so to some degree. I understand that your politics are really close to being a fanatical obsession, but take the high road and admit that others can be right...

As for Hal and the others, differing views are what makes the world go round:)
To give you an idea - agreed that Hussein needed to go - disagreed with Bush/Blair going in... seems everyone forgets that it was the USA AND the British that went in.

Apart from that - keep up the amusing posts everyone. And also I think everyone should stop making personal attacks no matter the issue - just not right to do that in a debate eh?

I'll start making my own views known if the arguments continue to be amusing.

Bluespike

[godzillagaijin]

Listen Bluespike, Im sure my anticipation to hear your side of the debate may cause me to sh*t my pants if you dont enter the fray soon...but if you dont want in, get out...I aint here to amuse baby, Im here to WIN WIN WIN!

My response to laterthanyous two questions which I overlooked...Im sorry baby...I didnt mean to hurt you...you know I dont want to hurt you, right baby?


What were the reasons we went into Iraq?

Imminent threat.

What were the reasons we didn't go into Rwanda?

Non-imminent threat.


And...Im...spent.

[bluespike]

Hey GG,

how was Saddam an imminent threat? He was doing nothing that he hadn't done before.... there was no possibility of him actually attacking any US interest anywhere. Maybe the fear mongering that the US put out during that time convinced a lot of people, but to be honest, you really have to look at things in their perspective. It is one of the reasons that Canada actually said - No to invading Iraq. Canada is literally the best friend that the US has. Think about where all the planes went on Sept. 11th when the skies were cleared. They went to Canada, where they were parked. Sometimes it takes a really good friend to tell you when you are doing something the wrong way. (Note not the wrong thing - just the wrong way)
Bush is a war monger plain and simple. If he wasn't he would have stopped at Afganistan and actually finished the job rather than moving on - - and right now I guess the gunsights are on Iran... and all this while being friendly with the House of Saud. What is the difference between them and Hussein? The Saudi's are far more dangerous to the US than Hussein ever was (although that is just my opinion)

You ask what to do to stop the threats? For one - change US foreign policy. You complain about the dangers of terrorists but it is merely a result of the US governments policies abroad. If you think that the governmnet champions democracy across the world, you are sadly mistaken. They do only when it suits them. Otherwise they will deal with whatever government is there no matter if they are terrorists or dictators. Or kill them and put in their own puppet. Theyt have done and will do in the future.

two - get rid of Bush. Not a political statement - Bush has now become a huge lightning rod for anger and hate in the muslim world. People are going to try to attack just because he is the figurehead. Doesn't matter now what he does - the hate is there and religious fanatics will use it to try to hurt US interests and citizens.

three - find Bin Laden... I just can't believe that with all the US militarry might they can't find one guy... come on - been 3 years now, get him and string him up for the world to see

four - stop letting commercial interests run the US political scene. I tihnk that somewhere in your country, somebody will suddenly realise that the government is no longer for the people by the people but for the companies and by the companies... just take a look at the lobby interests in DC

five - if that doesn't work - then just carpet bomb the Middle East....

I realise you are proud of your country but don't let it blind you to the fact that the government makes mistakes.. sometimes huge ones...

Bluespike

[laterthanyou]

What were the reasons we went into Iraq?

Imminent threat.

What were the reasons we didn't go into Rwanda?

Non-imminent threat.
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So I understand that you mean our country cant be bothered with the pain and anguish of 25 million people all the way on the other side of the world. I mean, if its not happening directly to you, than its not important right? Why should we worry about 300,000 people being murdered and placed in unmarked graves. Or whole villages being wiped out. Right?

[Hal Sidewinder]

Well Hal, your mom did say I was a handsome devil...and not half bad in the sack either.

My mother has been dead for fifty years. You, sir, are into necrophilia. Why am I not surprised?

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[Hal Sidewinder]

I would not have gone into Iraq. I would stop supporting Israel.

Two sentences that pretty much put GiGi's thread to rest.

[Hal Sidewinder]

As for Hal and the others, differing views are what makes the world go round:)
To give you an idea - agreed that Hussein needed to go - disagreed with Bush/Blair going in... seems everyone forgets that it was the USA AND the British that went in. Bluespike

Oh no, don't get us started about the British. I did mention the Kurds, which de facto entails the British decsion many years ago to carve up the Middle East as they so desired, but it seems, Bluespike, that slipped past you as you were still wondering what GiGi's inability to have an erection had to do with Osaka and the US presidential election. Hell, who knows? I just threw into the mix seeing as how it seemed about as on target as GiGi's rantings. The sad thing is the guy is actually serious. Anyway, the current involvement of the British is, really, a non-issue for a few reasons. Blair has tried to be the bridge between the USA and Europe (the union of course being the primary concern). I don't envy that man at all. Furthermore, the British were at loggerheads with the Yanks from day one. It has only gotten worse. What's with all this politics shiat? It's a thread about Osaka really.

I do have another concern actually. The initials for your online name here are "BS". Now, if I start quoting you that means that I will be writing things like: "Go read BS and check it for yourself" or "BS is a must read on this topic". Do you see my concern? I know that Bluespike is one word but the two syllables lend themselves the "BS" short form, which in the quest to save bandwidth and typing time people often resort to. Any thoughts?

I hope that you have visited Osaka or live there. I would like to spend more time there myself. One thing is for sure: Hanshin Tigers fans are the best.

[godzillagaijin]

My mother has been dead for fifty years. You, sir, are into necrophilia. Why am I not surprised?

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THATS why I needed so much lube. At first I coudnt figure it out. But now it all makes sense.

[Hal Sidewinder]

THATS why I needed so much lube.
You, sir, are into necrophilia.
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[madmaxxam]

You, sir, are into necrophilia.
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Keep it to the relationships forum guys. Dead, alive, once there's sex it's some sort of relationship.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Keep it to the relationships forum guys. Dead, alive, once there's sex it's some sort of relationship.

??????????????????????

[stillnosheep]

Leave him to me boys. He's mine I say. All mine!

[Hal Sidewinder]

That was such a great post I need to go through it line by line just to make sure I got all of it.

"Who am I? Well, I am Hal Sidewinder as a matter of fact."

Oh, my mistake Mr. Sidewinder. I was unaware I was talking to Gaijinpot royalty...Who does that? Refers to themselves by their screen names. "I am Hal Sidewinder." Like that is supposed to answer all of my questions. I mean, the only other person who does that is Kurogane, who entertainingly refers to himself in Third Person Cave Man from time to time. Oh, the high brow laughs never stop with ole' Kurogane.

"You can't find your own mistakes it seems. Ah, isn't that a surprise?"

What mistake? Research? Are you trying to tell me that you went through my whole post and decided to nail me on a misspelling of research? Dude, I went back and looked at your quote from me, and the word isnt even spelled wrong. Please, for the luva, tell me what is going through your head. It wouldnt make a difference even if I spelled the word wrong.

"You are in Japan, not in the U.S.A. Enough said."

What does that have anything to do with anything? Do my beliefs as a citizen cease because I live abroad? And like writing "enough said" proves your point. WHAT POINT?

"Stop sucking on the socialist tit and stop pretending to be a doctor."

Either I or you have missed something HUGE in this thread. Sucking on socialist tit? Is that a reference to my wife? I dont think she is a socialist...Now that you mention it though, she has been dropping hints about her desire to place all industry under the control of the government...but that is neither here nor there. And the doctor thing...umm...I just have no idea what you could be blathering about there.

"Carry on. Continue to destroy your life. We are watching with a bemused grin."

So, wait...should I stup sucking the socialist tit or carry on sucking it? Im confused...Is the milk from the socialist tit tainted? Is that how I am destroying my life? Can someone please get me some good ole American democratic tit around here? If I dont get some Demo-tit I might not make it. And who is watching? Do you guys have like a Gaijinpot liberal swing party hanging out together watching me on a secret web cam or something? And is bemused a little like sh*t eating? I was never quite sure.

"Your panties are in bunch. It is rather unseemly to be honest."

Oh, now wait a minute...this is kinda scary. You must have planted a camera in my room or else how would you know I like to wear panties? Either that, or you were hiding in the closet when me and your mother were playing dress up last night.

OH THATS RIGHT!!! HERE COME DA MOMMA JOKES!

Well, I guess you did resort to the mother jokes now didn't you, troll?

He is all yours.

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[bluespike]

ok Hal,

Suprisingly enough I am finding that GiGi's comments are proving true in that you completely take things out of context... I was merely pointing out that it was the USA and the British that went into Iraq, I mentioned nothing of the fact that the British carved up the Middle East years ago because it was completely irrelevant. It did not 'slip me by'- it is just completely irrelevant to the USA and the British being the ones that led the campaign against Hussein. It had nothing to do with history or the Kurds in the least.... seems like you really have some deep anger issues with the British and the Middle East... As for GiGi's sex life, not my concern and I don't attempt to throw around names and slur other people as you give the appearance of doing. (Actually he did mention that he found liberals tended to do that and guess what - you are both playing that game...) As for the British playing liason between the USA and the EU - maybe - but not really working too well, yeah they have been at loggerheads from day one - but they still went in together - does not change the fact it was TWO countries (mainly) that went in yet the British seem to have been forgotten about.

As for your other concern, rather cute but BSK will work fine if you feel a need to shorten it...
And yes - have visited Osaka before and will be there hopefully at the end of January if things work out properly... and Hanshin Tigers rock.. I actually prefer Japanese baseball to American as they actually seem to care about the game - much faster ... but hey, it's not hockey:)

As for the whole election issues - I don't mind talking about them - as long as people keep it civil - I enjoy the sarcasm that both you and GiGi put into your posts as long as you both refrain from the personal attacks.. .. the spice of life is having debate

Also just spare a moment to think about and mourn those lost in the hijackings... no matter what their politics or religion, they were innocents that died..

and on that note Ill sign off....

Bluespike.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Bluespike,

The BS thing was a joke, but I guess that I don't use emoticons so it pissed you off.

History is not irrelevant to Arabs and Kurds. That was my point. Your arrogance, at least that is how I view it, in announcing that it IS irrelevant is precisely the trouble a large number of people in the Middle East have with North Americans and Europeans as they perceive them. It has everything to do with the Kurds. How could you even suggest it doesn't? That is pure insanity from the viewpoint of most Kurds. The Kurds have no country of their own. They were given the shaft by the British. Christ, what are you talking about? Why do you think the US has been so careful with Turkey? So tough on Syria and Iran as of late?

GiGi said that he had sex with my mother after suggesting that I was hitting below the belt and would resort to jokes about his mother. Why are you taking issue with me about my initial post that was clearly a joke? GiGi is a troll. I knew it then and his actions have not changed. He does not answer questions. He only poses them and when answered he says that the answer is not good enough, but does not give any reason why other than his newest version of the same opinion. He has no facts, no history, no argument other than to inflame opinion. Therfeore I treat him like a troll as he acts like one.

I see what you are saying about the Brits in the here and now. My point is/was that Blair had very little choice. Britain is the number one foreign investor in the USA so it wants to be on good terms with whomever is in the Oval Office. The British have been forgotten about because people can see, I believe, that the USA is calling all the shots now without any concern for other formerly sympathetic allies.

I mourn the loss of life everywhere. I was in New York on that day. I have also lived other places where mass killings took place. I have been in Uganda, the Congo, and other African countries. No CNN/FOX there 24/7. I have also been to Russia actually and believe me those folks have been through a lot and the world for the most part, especially the USA, does not give a damn.

I suggest that in August everybody in the USA remembers Hiroshima and Nagasaki and all the innocents who died there. That will not happen. If you know anything about the history of WW II you will know that the folks in charge of the war in the Pacific theater were cognizant of the fact that if they lost they would be have been charged with war crimes themselves. If you don't like reading then have a gander at the film "The Fog of War" if you have not already. These facts are forgotten in the USA. It is a nation that does not reflect much on its past actions. Perhaps all nations are like that in the majority's opinion, but in my experience that does not seem to be the case.

My main point is that the USA is not the only country to suffer from terrorism at present. Nor does it have moral authority over any other nation. That type of thinking has led to two wars. Do you not ask yourself if these are not simply wars of revenge? Do you not think that beyond that there is little if any point? Oh, Iraq has oil. Sorry. The world is not safer than it was three years ago. That is fiction, sound bytes for political campaigns. Terrorism has continued in Spain, in Indonesia, in Saudi Arabia, and so on.

I, for one, am not convinced that a Democrat or a Republican matters in the whole scheme of things. The saddest thing in this thread is the number of people who have accepted the assumption that there is much difference. I have said many times that I am not a liberal. It seems that point has been missed. My disagreement is much broader in its scope. I simply do not see any point in either war the United States is involved in other than revenge, domestic political gain at the current time, and, perhaps, gains for those large numbers of people in Bush's entourage who are in the oil business.

The debate is not amusing is to me at all. I don't know how other Americans are not ashamed of what the country is doing in terms of foreign policy at the current time. Even the State Department seems to be extinct. Killing tens of thousands of people in Iraq does not, in my opinion, point to freedom or a country any better off than it was under the rule of SH. In fact, things are getting worse for Iraqis. Sanctions were bad enough, but now war has become a constant shadow over the lives of people in Iraq. SH had to go, but were two wars and years of sanctions necessary to oust him? I don't think so, nor do most Iraqis I suggest to you. Therefore, I do not think that any US involvement in Iraq will come to any good. The Iraqis cannot wait for the US forces to leave. Arabs understand imperialism. Let's not forget that fact. They have been responsible for the suppression of many ethnic groups (the Kurds for example) in the countries they have come to rule. They know full well what they are up against.

Afghanistan is an even bigger mess.

In my opinion, only fools would "stay the course" and so on. The USA is best off in foreign policy initiatives when it works within the UN, even though most Americans do not like to admit that fact. The UN is not a great organization, but it has been a good balance against the whims of the US Congress over the last 10 years.

I hope that I am wrong. That is where the troll, GiGi, and I are in sharp contrast.

Anger issues? That made me laugh. I don't take things personally on the net. Some guy says he had sex with my mother and I just make another joke about her being dead. Why I said don't get started about the British is that most people are completely ignorant of what the British did in the Middle East. It is hard to find common ground because most people have no knowledge of what went down long ago; and therefore make up history to fit in with what is palatable in today's mindset. In other words, the first part of this post is exactly what I wanted to avoid. It is clear that you do not know much about why the Kurds are in the situation they are in. Or why other countries in the region are bent of denying a Kurdish state. Or the water scarcity issue that clouds over the region. All of these things are at play in Iraq right now. I have yet to read about them here. And really, this thread should be about Osaka.

Thank you Bluespike if you have read this. PM me if you have anything you want to discuss anything about this issue. The troll is dead as far as I am concerned.


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[godzillagaijin]

You have lost all credibility Hal...Youre arguments are laced with "unimplied" questions and "jokes" that no one gets. But then you come back to use those same things as points of how stupid we are. You live in your own little world that no one can understand. Not even yourself Im sure.

And let me tell you Hal, that joke about your mother being dead...WHEW! What a kneeslapper that was...Oh man...yoooouuu!...you had me going on that one!

And please Hal, shut the F up about your mourning the deaths of people in New York...werent you the one boasting about how they should have all "expected it" in your other posts? So tell us the truth Hal...While you were "in" NYC during the attacks...were you mourning the dead, or going around telling them they should have expected it? Clarify your assinine position. What a piece of filth you are.

And I doubt you have been in all the hot spots you claim to have been. Its a wonder that you have been to every nation that appears to be in turmoil at the present moment. A coincidence? Or just a big pile of bullshit. Are you going to use these stories of "being" there to strengthen your positions? Cause I couldnt care less. So what if you were there in NYC Hal? Who gives a crap? There were 10 terrorists flying airplanes in NYC at the same time, and I give them as much credit as you for passing judgement on what really happened.

A man of your esteemed traveling experience should understand the suffering of the world and the help a nation like the US can bring to it. You claim we should not have gone into Iraq, but with the same breath Im sure you wonder why we havent gone into Rwanda...what makes the suffering in Rwanda worthy of our involvement but the suffering in Iraq not worthy?

Hal, please. End Submissions permanantly. You are useless in your banter and your presentation. You do nothin but muddle arguments and the debate with your offhanded and out of context remarks. You bring nothing to the table but boastful claims and mostimes psychotic rambling.

If you are truly finished with "the troll" as you put it, then I invite you to stop posting and shut your man pleaser permanently.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Troll, I only consider you stupid. I live in a large academic world as a matter of fact. One in which I am well understood.

Troll, why did you start with mother jokes? What was the point of that other than to try to inflame emotional responses?

Now you are calling me filth. I guess feeling bad about Hiroshima and Nagasaki makes me a piece of filth. (see above for inflaming emotional responses)

So you doubt that I have been to hot spots. Well, that is pretty funny. Would you like to see my passport or itinerary reports sent to Washington? I had to be relocated due to death threats from Muslims during the war in Iraq while living in Africa. I know firsthand what it is like to be in danger for simply being a citizen of the USA. I was working for the State Department. I know that the USA can do a lot of good (did I ever say that it is impossible?), but I also know that it does not at present do so for the most part. So do a lot of people who work for the US government at present. (of course your argument was originally directed at me as a person, not at any factual content, which is par for the course for a troll)

I expect bad things to happen and still mourn the dead. There is nothing illogical in such thinking. A troll might suggest otherwise. I expect that people will die and when they do I still feel bad. I cannot see anyting illogical or inhumane in such a simple fact of life. Care to explain your odd thinking on the matter?

The only useless banter I see today is your inability to see beyond a paradigm of us versus them. Lord Troll, all intelligent debates are far beyond the binary opposition you operate with. Lord Troll, I do what I what. Your insults aside I can still see that part of you is afraid to go to Thailand and try out your ideas in action, Lord Troll.

What about that Stalin quotation? Still waiting for you to answer that question. How many posts has it been?

Damn, I meant never to post on here again. Oh well, I typed it up and here it is. I apologize.

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[Morning Star]

I see my reputation preceeds me...all the way to Japan. And to be kind to history it said:
(on the front) F*CKIN HAOLE
(on the back) WILL TRADE: Your woman and land for slavery and disease

I was pretty close.

GG; Despite our differences of political opinion, you are a prince among men. I took a pic of you wearing that placard on Halloween night, but it didn't turn out too good. I was probably out burning with JJB that night. How long are you in Japan for? ny plans to head back to the Aloha or are you here for good?
Keep up the good debate, calling people 'filth' and insulting their mothers; if they don't accept your point of view, make them accept it! eehehehh.

[godzillagaijin]

Unbelievable. It really is true what they say about six degrees of social anarchists...But hey, any friend of my brothers is a friend of...well, the devil I guess.

Last I heard you were on your way back to Alohallywood, but alas, communication with my brother has been slim since he moved to Sodom.

My plans? Got out here a few months ago, and gonna stick it out until I have my baby (ie, future American Imperialist Swine) and check out the Japan scene for a while. Then I think make it back to Hawaii for a couple of years while I look for something permanent on the mainland. Dont think I can raise a family in a despotic shithole like that. Dont want my chilluns gettin any of that wacky left leaning cancer floatin around in their heads. Plus, I would prefer it if they never uttered a "Ho, Bah" or a "Guarans Ball Bearins" in their lifetimes.

And me, insult someones mother? Thats ridiculous...it might even be riDONKulous. I merely recounted the time when I mercilessly ravaged his dead mother. You know me, honest to a fault.

And he isnt filth because he disagrees with me. He is filth because the Great and Glorious Allah made him that way (praise be unto Him).

Good to hear from you. You living in the Kansai area?

[Hal Sidewinder]

Let me ask you a question Hal...When you talk to real people in public, do you ever listen to the words coming out of your mouth? I mean, do you posses the part of the brain that stops excrement from being released into conversation? How can you have Arab nationalism? I mean, I guess you could if you were from Arabia..but there isnt a country named that. I dont think anyone can take you seriously when you say that nationalism in Arab countries is not connected to the Muslim faith. Every demonstration is led with "Allah Akbar" chants. Every discussion comes down to talks about Muslim faith and law. ALL of the Arab countries have been founded on Muslim laws found in the Quran. Please Hal, try and control the verbal vomit you set forth into the world.

Well, let's see where you can find out about Arab Nationalism quickly and without much effort:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_nationalism

The point is that there are many Muslims who are not Arabs. In particular, I was pointing to the Kurds in Iraq. I do not know how you can miss that point, but where there is a will there is a way.

[stillnosheep]

Watch out. The saints are coming through...

[godzillagaijin]

Troll, I only consider you stupid. I live in a large academic world as a matter of fact. One in which I am well understood.

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Whats that I hear? Yup, sounds like Hal is tootin horns again!

Hal "TOOT! TOOT!" Sidewinder ladies and gentleman! The nine o'clock show is completely different than the eight o'clock show! Dont forget to tip your waitress!

[kurogane]

I have heard vicious rumours that Osaka is populated by a disproportionately large number of fat, mildly retarded, troglodytic verbose dwarfs from the country to the south of the one widely recognised as the most developed. They tend to punch above their weight, cover their lack of gumption with mere volume, and when the going gets rough, they get going. As in running away.

Any truth to these rumours?

Hello Hal. Are you listening to me Hal?

[stillnosheep]

Dunno mate. When I recover from my massage I'll get back to you.

sns

[godzillagaijin]

Kurogane...my dear old friend...is there another word you could use besides troglodytic? You throw that one around quite liberally (oh dear, I made a funny).

Im still here buddy, waiting for answers to my questions. Dont think you would like to pony up and throw an answer would you? You haven't been in this argument since day one, merely tossing in your two yen whenever the spirit hits you. Does your thesaurus have another word for "Sideline Sally" or are you just gonna stick with the troglodytic train?

A big bag o'wind is thee.

[stillnosheep]

Hi Kuro. I think that we have got him pinned down.

[kurogane]

Verbosity is not a virtue; once I find the perfect word, I like to stay with it. You need to re-read Wells, man. You will see the Wisdom that is Kurogane.
And, the answer to all of your questions is:
The Golden F'in Rule. And Peace, Love, and Happiness, just for good measure.
Peace = Prosperity.

Little hot again today, eh? I was steaming out there.

[stillnosheep]

Mushi atsui

[kurogane]

Mushi mushi mushi. Yuk. Hey, I think I hear the sound of silence. Do you think my Mothra act got rid of the Big Lumbering One?

[bluespike]

Hey Hal,

For starters - the BS thing didn't ____ me off - as I said - cute, but... not overly amusing... I don't get pissed off, especially when talking over the internet. I like talking about things just not into the whole - personal attack thing (and not suggesting you were attacking me either.)

You were missing what I was saying I guess. I am not saying that history is irrelevant - either to Arabs or Kurds - or anyone else for that matter. What I stated was that it was irrelevant to the point that i made. History has no bearing on the fact that it was the USA and the British that invaded Iraq to oust Saddam. If we wanted to get into debating the entire countryless kinsmen in the Arab world, we could probably be here all night - and I admit I am not an expert in that field. It just has nothing to do with the USA and Britain being the two main countries that ousted Saddam. I would not call that Arrogance, just a fact that I pointed out.

Maybe I am willing to give GIGI the benefit of the doubt as to not being a troll... I am not sure who started insulting who first but I always feel it is better to just stick to the facts. And to admit when you are wrong....

As for the Brits - I tihnk that you are right - the USA is calling the shots with no thoughts to the others in the Álliance'but I think that Britain did have a choice. THey could have done what Canada did and said no. It's called a backbone... sometimes Canadian politicians find it in the unlikeliest spots...

You seem to be exceptionally well traveled, and as I was saying, anytime innocents are killed it is tragic. ANd actually there are ceremonies in August every year to mark Hiroshima and Nagasaki and take a moment to mourn the dead. Well, in Canada anyway - I believe Vancouver has the largest one, but even here we have them at the local buddhist temples.

I do not think that the USA has ever had a war of 'revenge'I just think that they have wars in order to gain economic advantages... read the book 'The Best Democracy that Money Can Buy' I forget the authour but he is an AMerican in England writing for the Guardian... Teh world is definitely not safer than 3 years ago, take a look at Russia, take a look at any country now.. it is getting silly. They take away your nailclippers when you board a plane... but they still haven't replaced all the mirrors inb the bathrooms from glass.... easy as pie to make weapons there... but i think the chances of that being attempted again will be slim.

I don't think that a democrat or republican matters either - I just think that Bush is too visible a figure for Muslims to hate at present. He is like a lightning rod for hate and anger and it will cost innocent people their lives. ANd as i said earlier - I agree with your points about the war and the reasons for it..

I also agree with you on the US not doing anything substantial there - as soon as they leave, someone will step in to take control of the power. And then the cleansing will take place again... I can't see any type of government working there after SH and actually keeping freedom. At least not for a long long time. I guess right now most Iraqis are saying it was better under SH because at least they knew what he was and what would happen. Now they have no idea. They are running scared. SH no matter that he was a monster brought stability to the country. The thing is - what will happen with the dog and pony show of his trial? US broke international laws to go in and get him out.

Completely agree with you about the UN - although lately it is losing a lot of respect - they are getting too much into the warning after warning after warning and not acting when they should. They need to revamp the rules before they become completely useless.

I'll leave all that to you Hal - and actually do know a bit about the Kurds and the situation there but am by no means an expert...

Till later...

Bluespike

[bluespike]

Hey GiGi,

did you ever read my 5 point plan or did you miss it - those were my ideas but you never replied to them... I believe they might be the answers but hard to say eh?

Bluespike

[godzillagaijin]

Hey GG,


You ask what to do to stop the threats? For one - change US foreign policy. You complain about the dangers of terrorists but it is merely a result of the US governments policies abroad. If you think that the governmnet champions democracy across the world, you are sadly mistaken. They do only when it suits them. Otherwise they will deal with whatever government is there no matter if they are terrorists or dictators. Or kill them and put in their own puppet. Theyt have done and will do in the future.

two - get rid of Bush. Not a political statement - Bush has now become a huge lightning rod for anger and hate in the muslim world. People are going to try to attack just because he is the figurehead. Doesn't matter now what he does - the hate is there and religious fanatics will use it to try to hurt US interests and citizens.

three - find Bin Laden... I just can't believe that with all the US militarry might they can't find one guy... come on - been 3 years now, get him and string him up for the world to see

four - stop letting commercial interests run the US political scene. I tihnk that somewhere in your country, somebody will suddenly realise that the government is no longer for the people by the people but for the companies and by the companies... just take a look at the lobby interests in DC

five - if that doesn't work - then just carpet bomb the Middle East....


Bluespike

Number one - I agree. But too broad in nature and undoable right now. Right now we're bangin...Time for foreplay is over.

Number two - The world doesnt elect our President, we do. We elect the president that we believe will provide best for the American people. And we will do so. When we start electing leaders to appease foreign countries, we may as well move to that country.

Number three - I agree also. But he is in a country we cannot invade right now. Pakistan has been towing the line in the war on terror and we will allow them to do it. And while OBL is important, our actions thus far have almost completely removed him from the equation. You cant run a war on terror from inside of a mountain. What we need to do is destroy the network. Osama is a figure head. And to be honest, I kinda like having him on the run. It keeps the nut jobs in a centralized frame of thinking. If he dies, than maybe 50 OBLs pop up each with their own agenda.

Number four - Money talks. And it isnt just commercial interests. Anyone who wants the presidents, or senators or congressmans ear has to plunk down big change. Votes make your voice loud. Votes with money makes it louder.

Number five - HURRAH!

There you go. Sure, your ideas would help "solve" the problems as you see them, but they wont solve the problems as THEY see them. We are the Great Satan BSK, and they wont stop until we and the jews are vanquished from the earth. For you to think otherwise is irrational. When we start giving them what they want, they will want more. We are talking about power hungry people here. We gave Hitler what he wanted for a little while and what happened? He took it all the way to Paris and Stalingrad. If we have learned anything from our past, it is not to appease murderers.

[Morning Star]

GG:
I have to agree with points #1, 3, 4, and 5. Right or wrong, its the way things are now and we have to roll with it.
#3: Yup, without capturing Bin Laden we still have a face to put on the enemy and scare the bejeezus out of the American sheep. Bin Laden goes and our protracted conflict seems less and less relevant. If they did capture or kill Bin Laden it would make sense to keep it hush-hush.
#4: Money=political power; companies hire the citizens of America and lobby congress in their favor, giving more jobs and fatter paychecks to the people. Its a kind of controlled corruption, which is more than I can say for most countries.

#2: A reach, I don't expect Americans would ever elect a president to appease foreign countries. But a president who doesn't bully other countries into doing what he wants would be a nice start. A ruler or president can be both benevolent and powerful at the same time. Bush is a disaster... he can't get what he wants diplomatically, so he throws a tantrum and does it anyway, alienating half the civilized world in the process. I would rather see a leader who understands his neighbors, can build a concensus, and make the necessary compromises to get things done.

The thing about Clinton acting on bad information to send a couple missiles into Afghanistan pales...PALES in comparison to cowboy starting a war with Iraq.

On a personal note - Good for you for not letting your baby grow up in Japan. I would go on a killing spree if my offspring ever had to walk around with a yellow beanie on his head. I don't know what you and JJBs beef is with each other, but I don't really care to know, either... Sibling rivalry usually ends after you grow up... ahem. I'd like to head back to the 808, but figure I have another 3-4 years left on my tour of duty here.

re: Kurogane - Quantity, not quality doth a Grandmaster Pot make.

[godzillagaijin]

#2: A reach, I don't expect Americans would ever elect a president to appease foreign countries. But a president who doesn't bully other countries into doing what he wants would be a nice start. A ruler or president can be both benevolent and powerful at the same time. Bush is a disaster... he can't get what he wants diplomatically, so he throws a tantrum and does it anyway, alienating half the civilized world in the process. I would rather see a leader who understands his neighbors, can build a concensus, and make the necessary compromises to get things done.

The thing about Clinton acting on bad information to send a couple missiles into Afghanistan pales...PALES in comparison to cowboy starting a war with Iraq.



Didnt throw a tantrum. Just went in with the countries that would go along with him. Just because we didnt get a UN vote doesnt mean we tossed all other countries to the side. Do we really need France, Germany, Russia and China's OK to go ahead and do something? The UN is ineffective at everything they have tried to accomplish. The UN only works with the support of its biggest benifactor and creator the US. Other countries backed us when we went in, and still back us today.You may say we bullied them, I like to think they were doing what they thought was right.

AS for the Clinton thing, I was actually talking about him bombing Iraq for 4 days back in 98. After Saddam kicked out the inspectors, we laid waste to some of their weapon program sites. He acted on the same information that Bush used to go into Iraq only four years later. My point is that people now say Clinton acted on bad information, while Bush lied. I feel the only difference between the short war CLinton enacted in 98, and the extended one Bush is now cought up in is because the climate of the world has changed. No longer is containment and deterence effective. Clinton, I feel, would have made the same decision if he was in Bushs big bad cowboy boots.

Sure, the terrorists have reasons for wanting to kill us. But they are their reasons, not ours.

[kurogane]

Is Osaka really that political a place?

[stillnosheep]

If we have learned anything from our past, it is not to appease murderers.

Agreed.

May the road rise to meet you ... fast, hard and very very soon.

[Welesley]

Very interesting thread.


However, do the American people really elect the POTUS?
1800, 1824, 1876, 1888, 1960, 1976 and 2000. What do all of these date have in common? Disputed presidential elections. THe election in 2000 was not unique.

You can thank Hamiltion for the idea of the electoral college. In truth the founders of the "world's most free country" did not trust the public.


(I am stiring the pot a little)

[godzillagaijin]

Very interesting thread.


However, do the American people really elect the POTUS?
1800, 1824, 1876, 1888, 1960, 1976 and 2000. What do all of these date have in common? Disputed presidential elections. THe election in 2000 was not unique.

You can thank Hamiltion for the idea of the electoral college. In truth the founders of the "world's most free country" did not trust the public.


(I am stiring the pot a little)

Disputed? Your definition of disputed means "close" I guess. True, the benefits of the electoral college can be debated. But it does not come down to a mistrust of the people. It comes down to the belief in states rights and a representative democracy. If anything it is a mistrust of the centralized government that spawned the electoral college.

[godzillagaijin]

Agreed.

May the road rise to meet you ... fast, hard and very very soon.

I see Sheep is still trying to follow his shepherd Kurogane and gain the all important status of GrandMasterPot. Let me ask you a question ladies, does having status on an anonymous forum really make you feel better about yourself? Your posts are aimless and vapid and offer nothing in the way of depth. Do you guys go around bragging about your status to all your students on the JET program?

[laterthanyou]

Disputed? Your definition of disputed means "close" I guess. True, the benefits of the electoral college can be debated. But it does not come down to a mistrust of the people. It comes down to the belief in states rights and a representative democracy. If anything it is a mistrust of the centralized government that spawned the electoral college.


It most certainly does exist becasue of a mistrust of people. The Founding Fathers were afraid of mob rule, and thats why they created the electoral college.

[kurogane]

I see Sheep is still trying to follow his shepherd Kurogane and gain the all important status of GrandMasterPot. Let me ask you a question ladies, does having status on an anonymous forum really make you feel better about yourself? Your posts are aimless and vapid and offer nothing in the way of depth. Do you guys go around bragging about your status to all your students on the JET program?

Well, let's see: that charge comes from a guy that maintains his own website for the purpose of disseminating hatred and ignorance. Aimless? Vapid? No depth? Sounds like our Fat Boy is coming around to self-criticism, boys and girls. Another f'wit rightwinger brought to his fat, overfed knees.

BTW, if you ever again insinuate that I or my friend Sheepy the Wonder Puppy have any connection with the JET programme, I will emulsify all your Pocky, you scaley, carbon spewing troll. FYI, I have a real job. One paid for by your tax dollars. Now go get a real job, and make some more money. I could use another generous research grant; perhaps one dedicated to investigating the particulars of life as a gaijin in Osaka. With all your bellicose ranting you seem to have forgotten the original purpose of this thread.
And besides, My Daddy can beat up your Daddy.
I know you are, but what am I?
Besides, my avatar is way cooler.

[stillnosheep]

Awooooooooooooooo!

Werewolves of London!

Awooooooooooooooo!

Aha!

[godzillagaijin]

And besides, My Daddy can beat up your Daddy.


Whos your Daddy Kurogane?

Im your Daddy.

[stillnosheep]

Im your Daddy.

Im your Daddy??

Once more in English please...

[stillnosheep]

Awhooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Wherewolves of London.

Awhoooooooooo.

Aha.

[kurogane]

Hey, I saw one drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vic's,
His hair was Puhfect.

AAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Is being a Gaijin in Oskaka anything like being a Werewolf in London? Is Warren Zevon a modern Socrates?
Discuss amongst yourselves.

Saw Lon Chaney walking with the Queen.................................

PS Finally got a chance to look at more of the Great Godawful's website. For a fire-breathing Moron, he is actually quite a lovable character, in his own curmudgeonly way. Anybody that physically repulsive who can still make jokes about the physical appearance of his hosts, and at the same time adopt one of those of a race he detests can't be all bad, surely? Whaddya think Tony?
KusoGG, how long have you been here now? How's the Mud Language learning going? I would think that with you having sh%t for brains, a Mud Language would be a natural. :p

[dtj1974]

Godzilla Gaijin,
I thought the part on life in Japan was hilarious! I'm suprised that so many people are offended by your sense of humor. Anyone who has memorized where all of the western toilets are at near the local eki will know what I mean! I miss the "no smorking" signs. (Even though I'm not a smorker).

What you name your child is your business and not anyone elses as far as I'm concerned. As a bilingual speaker of Japanese and English, I'd just like to give you my 2 cents on "ronin". Yes, ronin could be translated as "masterless samurai". I have also seen it translated as "wandering samurai" and even "lost samurai". The ronin were samurai who lost their master for whatever reason (such as he was killed). These warriors lived to serve their master. Without him they had no purpose in life. Ronin were basically unemployed and wandered around looking for a new master to serve. So in Japanese, the word ronin carries some negative connotations of being "lost" or even "useless and without purpose". Students who fail the university entrance exams are known as ronin for similar reasons. They are seen as lost and/or without direction or purpose. However, in English the word "Masterless" can carry meanings of "independant and controlled by no one" or someone who is a "leader and not a follower". So, if you only speak English, "masterless samurai" sounds pretty cool. Masterless...proud, independent. But in Japan being a ronin is not really something to be proud of. It is seen as a kind of failure. Even if you do not speak Japanese and have no intention of living in Japan, your son most likely will speak Japanese and understand the true meaning of the Japanese term. Just something to think about,

Sorry, that got kind of long. ..

I also enjoyed reading your view on recent world events....but I'll save that post for later.

Oh, and for the Original Poster of this thread:

Being a gaijin in Osaka is like being a gaijin anywhere else in Japan. The people of Osaka are much more friendly and laid-back than the people in Tokyo. They have a very interesting, kinda rough sounding dialect. Of course if you don't speak Japanese then I guess you won't notice that. They also have a strong sense of pride in being from Osaka.

[kurogane]

Godzilla Gaijin,
I thought the part on life in Japan was hilarious! I'm suprised that so many people are offended by your sense of humor. Anyone who has memorized where all of the western toilets are at near the local eki will know what I mean! I miss the "no smorking" signs. (Even though I'm not a smorker).

Oh, and for the Original Poster of this thread:

Being a gaijin in Osaka is like being a gaijin anywhere else in Japan. The people of Osaka are much more friendly and laid-back than the people in Tokyo. They have a very interesting, kinda rough sounding dialect. Of course if you don't speak Japanese then I guess you won't notice that. They also have a strong sense of pride in being from Osaka.

Nice balanced account of our newly designated Bad Boy, there, unintelligible handle person (THX1138???). The only part of his humour that offends most of us, I think, is the unmitigated racist BS, even though it does carry a certain hint of self-parody. If you look like he does, I suppose self-parody comes naturally. Nice comments on the name Ronin. Not much good can come of calling your child a name the meaning of which the father is too thick to understand in its native context.
As for the Original Poster, HE is the Original Poster man. Nice goofup, there ;)
I agree about the people being better in Osaka. Still can't figure out why they would have a strong sense of pride in being from a place like that, but that's the Kyoto view, I guess.
Night

[godzillagaijin]

Thanks for the site hoorah, dtj1974. I think anyone who takes the time to look through it can actually find some things of value in there....But dont take my word for it...Read this ringing endorsement from my old pal Kurogane:


Nice balanced account of our newly designated Bad Boy, there, unintelligible handle person (THX1138???). The only part of his humour that offends most of us, I think, is the unmitigated racist BS, even though it does carry a certain hint of self-parody. If you look like he does, I suppose self-parody comes naturally. Nice comments on the name Ronin. Not much good can come of calling your child a name the meaning of which the father is too thick to understand in its native context.
As for the Original Poster, HE is the Original Poster man. Nice goofup, there ;)
I agree about the people being better in Osaka. Still can't figure out why they would have a strong sense of pride in being from a place like that, but that's the Kyoto view, I guess.
Night

Oh man, I think Kurogane just said I was funny...all this love from you liberals and I get suspicious...perhaps youre trying to lull me into one of your vicious liberal truth traps...I sleep with one eye open tree huggers!

[godzillagaijin]

For a fire-breathing Moron, he is actually quite a lovable character, in his own curmudgeonly way.

Kurogane + Godzillagaijin = TL4EVA

[stillnosheep]

Don't even think about believin it.

[godzillagaijin]

Sorry Sheep, didnt mean to walk in on your territory. If you want Kurogane all to your self, I guess I can let you have him.

Which reminds me of a joke.

Why does Kurogane wear a dress?

Because Sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away.

[madmaxxam]

Wow, this thread has really degraded. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

[kurogane]

Daddy? Are you there Daddy?
You so Big and Strong, me so little, dark, and wet.
Help Me, Daddy, Help Me!

Oh No, Daddy, Not There! Daddy's scaly hands are soooo rough.
Why are you blowing flames in there, Daddy?
The Ring of Fire doesn't need more heat!


PS: didn't get that equation joke, there.

BTW, Guys, I think He is on to our strategy. Like the JoHos, we seduce with love, and kill with sweetness. Well, that and a lack of blood transfusions.

[Hal Sidewinder]

Rocket From The Tombs says "Warmonger why don't you help bury the dead?"

End of transmission.

[kurogane]

Wellll, it looks like The Forces of Mothra have triumphed again. Godzilla has fallen into a pool of his own filth, and he can't get up, mostly becasue he didn't order the Lifecall medical service.

Praise the Lord, and Pass the Onigiri.

[madmaxxam]

Praise the Lord, and Pass the Onigiri.

And that fancy 'decorated' pocky. It's like a party on a stick (-:

[godzillagaijin]

Wellll, it looks like The Forces of Mothra have triumphed again. Godzilla has fallen into a pool of his own filth, and he can't get up, mostly becasue he didn't order the Lifecall medical service.

Praise the Lord, and Pass the Onigiri.

Not so Kurogane...Ive been busy populating the world with RIGHT minded neo-conservatives....check it out if you will:

http://www.geocities.com/godzillagaijin/spawnone.html

Anyone know where I can get an extra small "All Good Things Come from Bush" T-shirt?

[stillnosheep]

Pass the pocky...

[Hal Sidewinder]

Rocket From The Tombs says "Congratulations to you and the entire family. Now, quit smoking for the sake of those children."

End of Transmission.

[Morning Star]

"Put a cigarette in one hand and a glass of wine in the other, heh haww, life is short, live it up."
I probably butchered that quote.

[kurogane]

Not so Kurogane...Ive been busy populating the world with RIGHT minded neo-conservatives...
Wouldn't that be RIGHT winged?

[Hal Sidewinder]

Wouldn't that be RIGHT winged?

Rocket From the Tombs says "From the looks of things the kids will have to fight for something to eat. Log House Republicans they may well end up being."

End of Transmission.

[eku]

i have to be honest and say i didnt read much more than the posts on wanking, i think i skipped all the wars and glanced at the sitting on floors bit... i did look at the website tho...
sad way to try and up your stats godzil.... its easier if you just sit and refresh your page like 100 times a day... less stress, easier still, change your counter stats yourself ....

[peterh1971]

I will tell you what is annoying. Havingto be eithr left or right. Can't we be somewhere in the middle. None of you guys are going to change anything with your comments. Lets tick to what it's like to be a gaijin in Osaka. I would like to know. I heard the people are a little more friendly there! To Godzilla, I thought your website was pretty damn funny. I guess many people would consider me a liberal or left or whatever you wanna call it, but I also believe in some pretty consevative stuff as well. To hell withthese guys that made fun of your site and told you to exercise. I thought thta was pretty damn rude and low. Exercise is good though, but they were out of place by telling you that. The truth is it's what ever gets you throught he night and makes you happy. Your site put a **** eating grin on my face and made me laugh which I don't seem to be doing enough of these days. So thanks. Goodluck and cute baby!
PS. Regardless of who won the election (I voted for Kerry) as Americans lets come together and support the President. I don't like him, but he is my President now and I will support him as much as possible regardless dis agreements. Whether we like him or not he's gonna be there for 4 more years. It won'be a huge difference if Kerry was there. Come on guys.

[Gaijin de Moscu]

What happened to GozillaGaijin's site? I must have missed some major developments.

Comes back as a blank for me.