Which city?

[Emulator]

Hello all,

Well I've decided to come to Japan next spring. Right now I've been doing tons of research about where to live. Before I decided to come here I had always wanted to check out Japan because it just seemed so different and interesting to me. I came to this site and learned quite quickly that gaijin men (and women to of course) are considered quite the novelty item and can get quite a bit of action in Japan. I'm from Toronto, Canada, and I am a good looking guy who is quite personable. However if any of you know anything about Toronto it is that women (and men here too probably) can be quite cold. So now that my disclaimer has been said, where is the best city in Japan to live for a 23 year old male gaijin that wouldn't mind sowing his oates for at least a couple months, and then wouldn't mind meeting a nice girl after that. One city I'm not really interested in living in is Tokyo, but I'm open to all suggestions. I'm researching where I want to live based on various things, but I figured I'd just get an opinion on this aspect from the people who frequent the relationship section. All sorts of girls, good girls, bad girls, it's all fun, so long as they are not COLD. Don't worry though, I don't plan on being an arrogant ******* mr. charisma when I arrive there, but I don't mind playing the Gaijin card if it is advantageous for everyone involved. Also, if anyone can specify where NOT to go (because gaijin are not desireable there, women are cold, but not because you just don't want the competition) then that would be appreciated to. Cheers and thanks for any advice.

[Maki`s Mum]

Do everyone in Japan and yourself a favour and stay in Toronto filling your bin with tissues you
brainless monster.
So you want to come to Japan and "sow your oates". Why not just put that on your landing form at customs ? I`m sure they`ll love you for that.
Loser

[madmaxxam]

Oooh, quick Kurogane, it's Maki's mom, get your fill of eye candy.

And you say you've decided to come to Japan next Spring. Do you actually have a certificate or a sure fire way over here so the rest of us have to dread another gaijin that makes us look bad as a group? Stay away from Kansai, that stomping ground is already taken by Kurogane, Bluedog, myself and others. I think if there's one more gaijin in the Kansai region you're bound to see some race riots.

[Morning Star]

I put "Mercenary" on my landing form at customs, so I'm sure that they wouldn't mind if he put, "Farmer" or "Sower of Oats." I'll try that next time.

Emulator, stay in Toronto, find where the Japanese women are and try plowing their cornholes instead of coming all the way over here to do it / them / us.

However, it is true that Japan takes social outcasts from the West, like yourself, and deifies them. Perhaps you'll find even better treatment in Thailand, Phillipines, and Indonesia. Yes, that's it, go have a sex tour in Thailand, sow your oates, marry Bangkok Betty, and live happily ever after.

[Maki`s Mum]

Emulator, as you proport to like easy women and are looking for a place to go, I suggest the Japanese city of 番刻 or `Bankoku` as it is known over here. It is situated in western japan, some people call it a different country but let us not get concerned with trivial matters such as that.
A loser such as yourself will be right at home there.
Here are some websites to make it even easier for you. I know you are good looking and personable and all but I thought that as this is the internet you just might be telling a lie.
Hope this helps bro.
Bring on the coffee-colored good times.
And rememer dude, in Asia, guys come first !!!!
www.mythaibride.com
www.goodwife.com/asian/
www.bridesbymail.com/mob/asia.html
www.singlesites.com/Thailand_Dating.htm
www.ThaiLoveLinks.com

[imTony]

Ouch - harshness all around...

I don't really have a problem with you, my friend... because you don't seem arrogant. Just PLEASE try not to view Japan as some sex tourist stop. Too (too, too, too) many men are like that. Japan is a country, not a brothel. Try to show respect; it's all about the respect. ;) Anyway... I don't mean to lecture you. If you go to any big city, you will be able to find a casual sex relationship, I imagine. Bigger cities mean more women who sleep around (Be careful! You know what's going on with STD's in Japan, eh?)

In my opinion, I'd stay away from the foreigner-obsessed type of women if you want a meaningful relationship. Either way, good luck and stay humble! :)

[imTony]

Maki's Mum,

LOL - those links are f*cking ridiculous. I can't believe anyone would actually order a bride. Very funny.

[Emulator]

Thanks ImTony, and thank you everyone else.

Unfortunately I won't be staying in Toronto, and I won't be going to another country just because you say there is more tourist sex there. In fact I will be going to Japan because I always wanted to go to Japan.

Damn, now I see how flame wars happen.

I apologize for sarcasm not crossing the internet easily (with regards to the "sowing of oates" and "competition" comments) as I honestly forgot to insert a sideways tongue sticking out little guy.

I suppose I did touch a nerve though, and either certain people on this board are very judgemental, or there is a negative stigma with young foreigners that I'm not aware of. I apologize for not wording my post more sensitively.

I promise when I come to Japan I will act appropriately and respect everyone whom I meet. I will learn the Japanese language as best I can, and act as politely as I can.

[Emulator]

thanks again ImTony

Your response was not rude and actually helpful and I appreciate it.

[Emulator]

And I will not, and never viewed Japan as a tourist sex brothel. It interests me for it's history first and foremost, and then it's culture and just the fact that it's a different way of life than what I'm used to. The sex aspect was only something I read about after visiting this site while looking for information on living in Japan. It just seemed like a nice little bonus. Apparently it's an abused bonus that creates nasty people who judge harshly both the japanese and the gaijin.

[Maki`s Mum]

So you don`t view Japan as a brothel.....just a place to "sow your oates" for a couple of months.
I see the difference now, how stupid of me. There was I thinking you had some image of a place where you can get easy girls left right and centre.

And by the way there is no need to worry about STDs here they are practically non-existent.
Leave your condom at home and go bareback !

The town ____ jars are waiting for you. Just don`t get in her eyes OK ?
Incidentally why did you not mention history, culture etc in your initial post ?

You have learned the hard way, but there is an ugly bunch of foreigners in Japan,
dicking around, giving decent foreigners a bad name, acting like alcoholics released from rehab into a brewery with a blank cheque. Don`t be one of them.
That`s all. Sorry to be harsh .

[Morning Star]

You're penitant, good. Now we can invite you into the fold and tell you all the secrets of Japan that most foreigners aren't privvy to. I hope the other Gaijinpotters don't get mad at me for telling you this.

Get ready to have your pipes cleaned six ways to Sunday. Every day IS a sex festival in Japan, you'll probably even get a little HJ on the way over here from a stewardess.

As you step off the plane start asking people where the fabled "onsens" are located. Onsens are the places where people go to have a hot-tub orgy. If you need more booty, go to the "Izakaya" where people enjoy libations and anonymous sex. Still not satisfied? Try attending some "Hanabi" in the spring. This is the festival of cherry blossoms, and I'm not talking about the trees. In the late summer you have "Matsuri" which is another drunken orgy where each town has their own perverse ceremony celebrating purity and debauchery.

Welcome, Welcome, Irashaimussi !

[Emulator]

"Incidentally why did you not mention history, culture etc in your initial post ?

You have learned the hard way, but there is an ugly bunch of foreigners in Japan,
dicking around, giving decent foreigners a bad name, acting like alcoholics released from rehab into a brewery with a blank cheque. Don`t be one of them.
That`s all. Sorry to be harsh ."

I probably should have mentioned those things, but I didn't assume that everyone would automatically label me moronic. When I reread my post I realize it was quickly written with little or no tact, in a way that would be fine if it came from a friend you knew was not a jerk, but read as if from generic anonymous gaijinpot man and it comes across as if from a low-life horndog.

I have learned the hard way indeed.

Thank you Morning Star, but is there not the groping on the trains? I've been told that not only is this accepted, it's encouraged, but only if it is followed up by talking quite loudly (almost yelling even) about all your previous conquest to other gaijin on the train, all the while assuming no one else understands you. :P

[Morning Star]

Ah yes!!! You've done your homework, too!

Groping trains are what you take to get to the onsens. The schoolgirls pack into them with their ultra-short skirts and you just wander around grabbing them. If you find one you like you can even give her a little "pencil rub," using the parlance of our times. Yelling is never appropriate, you can high-five, though... or "ハイ・ターチ!"

[Emulator]

good, good. I'm writing this all down.

I've also heard the japanese are Magically Immune to STD's. Does this immunity pass on to foreigners they interact with, or are the STD's lying dormant specifically waiting for English teachers?

[madmaxxam]

good, good. I'm writing this all down.

I've also heard the japanese are Magically Immune to STD's. Does this immunity pass on to foreigners they interact with, or are the STD's lying dormant specifically waiting for English teachers?

Oh, the most common piece of knowledge here in Japan. Every Japanese girl that you 'conquer', as they love to call it here, gives you 1 month of their immunity from STD's. So whatever you do, make sure to sleep with at least 1 new Japanese girl every month. Oh, and the months don't add up, so never go 1 month without a new one.

[imTony]

Maki’s Mum,

I do understand your feelings. I don’t like it when people treat men like a brothel, either. However, everyone desires sex, eh? At least he doesn’t act like the only reason to be in Japan is to bed as many women as possible. He seems interested in the place. Also, I have read his other posts; he slept around in his home country as well. He already apologized for coming off as insensitive, and explained that the sowing of oats bit was a bit of a joke. I don’t think he will be an arrogant Charisma Man. Again, I understand your feelings… but maybe you are judging him too harshly, do you think?


Emulator,

It is my opinion that the “special factor” sometimes goes to foreign men’s heads. They begin to behave arrogantly, believe they are badasses, project the attitude that the only reason to be in Japan is to put as many notches on the belt as possible, or say insensitive (and ignorant) things like “Japanese women are easy.” It is just an utter lack of respect.

Of course, just because you sleep with someone you aren’t serious with doesn’t mean you are one of these people. Keep the humble attitude, my friend. I’m glad I can offer help, even though it isn’t much.

And while we are studying common happenings in the land of the rising sun, remember that it is a common practice to stab your chopsticks upright into your rice while on dates. :P

[madmaxxam]

And while we are studying common happenings in the land of the rising sun, remember that it is a common practice to stab your chopsticks upright into your rice while on dates. :P

Trying to get him with the more subtle ones he might not know of Tony? As a gaijin, most Japanese people will take your chopsticks out of your rice, lay them down properly, and explain what you've done. They don't expect you to know. I knew, and yet I did it once when I was a bit drunk. There were, of course, no negative reprecussions. Of course, I've preformed other cultural no-no's such as jumping off the Dotonbori bridge (-: (Some girls really think that's cool, others think it's disgusting. Either way, it was 2 years ago, and it was fun.)

[imTony]

Heh heh heh

I don't want to "get him." I made it obvious that it was a joke, right? :)

[gentleman quality]

Emulator,

First thing, do not emulate Charisma man. Next, do not emulate Sensitive man, imTony. In fact, dont emulate anybody. Live the way you want to live. Bang wh*res till your schlang rots if you want! Be a monogamous nice guy if you want! Or if it floats your boat, become a buddhist monk and abdicate your carnal desires forever! You can do any of these things here. Just dont be a ____ about it!

Now, to answer your original question (unlike everyone else), if youre interested in living in a place besides Tokyo thats not cold, I'd like to suggest living in Fukuoka. Its south, not so cold, and has very attractive women. And the ramen there is good.

Good luck with your move.

[Emulator]

Thanks again everyone.

I only considered the whole "special factor" because it's just one more thing to consider. I didn't figure I'd ask anyone in another section of this forum because I was doing research for every aspect of my stay. I have recieved much information on most other aspects from my Japanese friend I used to date who now lives in Peru. I thought it would be even less tactful to ask her these questions than asking them to people on this forum. She has taught me alot of proper etiquette, so I have at least a notion of what to expect.

As to the whole "special factor". I've seen it before where I live and places I visit. I always thought it was just a later stage of racist undertones and the beginning stages of racial acceptance. It's the point at which one accepts differences yet still see's "the other". That's just my viewpoint on it and it may well be wrong. However if we assume this viewpoint to be true, then you can see that it still has racist undertones. So maybe there will be places where people view a foreigner as "the other" and accept and are intrigued by this, and maybe there are places where they do not accept this and are not intrigued but rather repelled by this. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the "special factor" than be a "weird barbarian". Again I could be totally wrong, and am interested in hearing other viewpoints on it.

Now if I find a few cities that have everything that I am looking for, and if one has a population that assigns a bit more of a positive viewpoint on gaijin than the others, then I think I would choose that one. Incidentally, the major factors I have for choosing a city are: History/Culture (not sure how one measures this, but I think a good way of illustrating this is the difference between European cities and North American suburbs), weather (it's part of the plan to avoid at least one Canadian winter in my life), music scene (I am a musician and love some of the Japanese noise/electronic music scene. Cornelius, aka Keigo Oyamada, being one of my biggest influences. Lovers of good but eclectic music should check his stuff out if they haven't already), art/asthetics, as well as overall vibe and atmosphere.

Again, apologies for not expressing this more tactfully earlier.

[imTony]

Hey gentleman, so I'm a "sensitive man" now, eh? I talked about respect, but I told him to do what he wanted, didn't I? Besides, we are on the same page. You said, "Just don't be a ____ about it." That's right.

I have never been to Fukuoka, but it looks nice enough. I still say the most important thing for him is to pick a big city, It doesn't matter which city it is.

[gentleman quality]

tony, you are totally Mr. Sensitive. Mr. Nice guy. Mr. Clean.

Anyway, I dont think a big city is necessary to have a good experience in japan. in fact, a medium - small sized city may be better in terms of making friends and getting involved in stuff.
Plus, people are more friendly and the pace is slower.
Another place i'd recommend is Matsuyama or Kochi in Shikoku or Kagoshima City in Kyushu. Very chill but with opportunities to meet people and modern conveniences and nature all included.

[imTony]

Bahhhh! I don't believe I'm that way. I hate the arrogant type of foreigners that are in Japan and have nothing but ill will for them. Infact, I would be quite pleased if something unsavory happened to the ones that I know. These feelings don't make me who you say I am.

[Emulator]

ImTony,

Though I obviously don't know you personally I can say from the few posts of yours I've read, I cannot assume you are Mr. Sensitive, Mr. Nice Guy Mr. Clean or anything like that. Maybe Gentleman Quality just said that to pull your leg a bit.

Though it does seem like alot of people on this site love their stereotypes. Be it Mr. Charisma Man, Mr. Salary Man, or automatically assuming that anything about anyone. There's always easily associable traits that go with stereotypes, and I'm as guilty as the next guy for sometimes getting sucked into that, but we should try not to. I mean, being a "man" is not neccesarily synonymous with being a "jerk", nor is being "nice" synonymous with being a "wimp".

Gentleman Quality, thanks again for the advice. My only concern with a smaller city is the music scene, or lack thereof. Probably any city in Japan would be good for almost every other reason I want to go there, but the music aspect is something that I have a feeling only one of the really big cities would have enough underground music (not just J-pop). Kyoto seems to look nice, but again, I'm not sure.

[madmaxxam]

Kyoto seems to look nice, but again, I'm not sure.

Kyoto is a short train ride from Osaka. Assuming that plenty of nights you go out, you'll be out all night anyway, this is no problem. Osaka, of course, has the music scene everywhere, even blasting out the backs of peoples cars late at night.

[gentleman quality]

tony- hey-oh, hey! whaddid i say?
of course i'm not making a judgement about your real personality, just your comments on here. .. which are judgemental but never offensive. its not even a criticism really. just sayin'..

emulator, true true. if you want to go to shows and clubs then small towns are not for you. if you want to see musicians besides japanese then your options decrease exponentially. basically your choices are Osaka, Nagoya, and Tokyo (Sapporo, Fukuoka, Sendai occasionally get acts).
As for shopping, its also tough to do in small cities.. but who needs to shop when there's the internet?

[Morning Star]

GQ;
Wouldn't you say that your options decrease logarithmically instead of exponentially?
I've seen a few good shows in Kanazawa as well. More on small city vs big city, in a small town you're going to spend a lot less money than a city like Tokyo... then again, you might need a car. If Emulator likes life in Toronto, choose a big city, if he likes to get 'is kicks in da UP, eh, den pick sum udder place, eh.

[madmaxxam]

No, your options decrease exponentially. K*e^(-x) works much better than a K*log(C-x), which you also have to prevent from going negative...

[kurogane]

Kurogane go Tee Heee Heee for beri beri long time. Mai Happy frends make mincemeat of silly copy boy. Kurogane soo happy.
Emulator,
You came across as a real knob, hence the flack. BUT, you pulled it all back. You have my permission to cum Japan. Not Kansai, though. Sorry, big guy. As Madmaxxam wrote above, there are too many of us here, and you will be far too dazzled by our beauty, our splendour, and the truly stupendous size of our respective Cultural Accoutrements.
As for the STD immunity issue, Madmaxxam was on the right track, but his report contained mild factual inexactiitudes. The real poop, so to speak, is that each and every time you sleep with a Native Girl, you receive a dose of Special & Unique Island Nation Charm, which keeps away the cooties for a full Four Seasons. I once had an ex with whom I exchanged precious bodily fluids so frequently that I am immune until age 669.

BTW, Morning Star, you big Doo Doo Head,

. If Emulator likes life in Toronto.
NOBODY likes life in Toronto. Life in Toronto is not life, it is a zombie like life-death. Toronto is the armpit of the nation, a pox on our glorious land. Where were you brought up, Poughkeepsie?
;)

[madmaxxam]

NOBODY likes life in Toronto. Life in Toronto is not life, it is a zombie like life-death. Toronto is the armpit of the nation, a pox on our glorious land. Where were you brought up, Poughkeepsie?
;)

I was brought up in a city really, really close to Poughkeepsie. Wait, is there more than 1 Poughkeepsie in the world? Cause Poughkeepsie, NY is kind of a pit. My city is much nicer, albeit smaller.

[sincity]

NOBODY likes life in Toronto. Life in Toronto is not life, it is a zombie like life-death. Toronto is the armpit of the nation, a pox on our glorious land.

I lost interest in Toronto when they tore down Maple Leaf Gardens, but that was many moons ago in a different life. But Kurogane, how dare you you berate my birthplace, that sacrosanct city where at age 8 I kissed Jane Yamamoto setting into motion a chain of events that will eventually impact the lives of thousands of Japanese girls and perhaps one fruit from Poughkeepsie, you who emerged from the arsehole of the western hemisphere, a place we Torontonians refer to as Flakesville but perhaps better know in these parts as Vancouver? (Ha! I remembered the question mark!)

And Emulator obviously hails from Hamilton or Saskatoon. You'll never persuade me that he's a born and bred Torontonian. I will not even entertain discussion on this Emulator.

[kurogane]

Wouldn't that make him a dis-emulator?
As for the dissing, I'm just F'in around.
Now, onto the small world stuff:
You kissed Jane Yamamoto? I cracked her little sister's brown cherry last year at a drunken party in Yaletown. But seriously, my first Luuv was a J-C girl too. Corinne Matsumoto. Now that I think about it, the only reason you eastern twats have any access to beautiful J-C girls is because my rabidly racist forebears rounded them up, put them in camps, and when the war ended sent them either East of the Rockies or West of Vancouver Island. Stupid twits. Soooo, does that mean I am in for a pussy percentage, seeing as how it was the brilliantly vicious stupidity of a bunch of Vancouverites that resulted in your being sent down the road to becoming the Yellow Peril (as in, a peril for the .....), and the decimation of my potential dating pool?
Huh?
:p

[imTony]

Gentleman,

I’m not angry or anything. It’s just that, even if I am (maybe) Mr. Nice, I’m not Mr. Clean. :) You can call me Mr. Respect. (Didn't you see The Godfather?)


Emulator,

I just remembered: Nagoya (A big city) is supposedly the center of all art in Japan. I imagine you could see some goof shows there. And it’s close to Tokyo if you need to head that way to see some other show.

[kurogane]

(Didn't you see The Godfather?) .

"Tony, I never wanted this for you, Tony. I wanted you to be a real pezzonovante, maybe even a Senator."
"It's okay Pop, we'll get there yet"

Grasshopper, we all respect you. When you can snatch the GrandMasterPot pebble from my hand, time for you to..............

PS I have only been to Nagoya a couple of times, but I noticed quite a few goof shows around Nagoya station. Indeed, my impression of the city was that it is really just one big goof show.

And Now, a poem, by Kurogane Tatsujiro
imTony was typing at night
For fear of his neighbours
He typed without light
He typed something nice
He thought it was right
But he forgot to remember
the "d" goes left, and the "f" goes right
:D