That equates to over 4,000quid UK
Are they insane?
That equates to over 4,000quid UK
Are they insane?
Most of that goes to apartments and the security deposit plus "key money". Could be 2-5 times a month's rent just to move in. Do the math on an apartment that costs 80,000 yen/month.
You will also not get your first paycheck for 4-6 weeks, so you will have to buy food and perhaps even pay for utilities and phone during that time. Plus dry cleaning, hair care, insurance, and anything else you want to buy.
Oh, sure, you might be able to borrow from your employer, but do you really want that just by moving here, and have to pay it back in installments (taken out of your paycheck automatically) in the first 3 months?
Thanks for the reality check guys. Knew it would be expensive but didn't reckon it'd be that much. There's no way I could stretch to that plus flights. I take it if you go with anyone else but JET (teaching route) then set-up costs are similar? Any companies or routes that are less expensive or is that a ball-park figure across the board? Thanks for your help.
Keep in mind you may not see a paycheck for up to 6 weeks as salaries are paid the following month (not weekly like in the west) and you have to survive until then. I recommend coming with at least $4000 US the more the better.
Thanks very much. I worked on JET years many ago in Fukuoka and I'm still in touch with the JTEs I worked with. I might drop them an email to see if they know of any openings or opportunities - they would recommend me as I got on well with them. I know this doesn't hold much weight but it's worth a shot. I also know people in Fukuoka I could stay with for up to a month, but I think it could be financial suicide turning up in Japan without a job and hoping I find one.
I came back to the UK in 2004 but I've made the decision to go back to Japan, so I'm sussing out the best options. Thanks again for all your help.
Last edited by lemsip; 2011-11-19 at 09:09 PM.
I doubt you can apply a second time and if they hired you it means someone who has never been misses out.
There are also rules about previously having lived in Japan before applying for JET.
have a friend teaching in Kumamoto teaching kids, may pay to ask around. I also taught in Shikoku my first year here.
It seems they are actively encouraging past alumni to apply.
Anyway, like I said, I'll get back somehow. But might take a bit more saving on my part whatever route I decide. Thanks again for the replies.
Last edited by lemsip; 2011-11-19 at 09:13 PM.
[i]7. Not have participated on the JET Programme since 2009 or for more than five years in total.
8. Not have declined a position on the JET Programme after receiving notification of placement in the last JET Programme year. (Exceptions to this rule may be made in cases where it is accepted that the partcipant had a valid, unavoidable reason for withdrawing.)
9. Not have lived in Japan for six or more years in total since 2002. [/i/
Employers who already have an apartment usually have it already furnished.Originally Posted by KansaiBen
Find one on your own (aside from LeoPalace21), and yes, you will have to furnish it entirely from scratch (appliances, curtains, light fixtures, etc.).
For the record, I never moved into a place in Japan that didn't have light bulbs in the light fixtures.
For the record, half the places I moved into didn't even have light fixtures, let alone light bulbs. Older places, I grant you.
Do you really want to chase after teaching gigs? I mean Japan can be fun and all that and the J-girls (or boys) a plus. However, to return and start teaching again at the bottom?
I don`t know about that.
Last edited by Ken44; 2011-11-20 at 02:43 AM.
THEY DON'T WANT ALL YOU GAIJIN HERE ANYMORE!!!
In all the places I've moved into, and moved people into, if there was a permanent light fixture in place, there were bulbs in it. But most rooms just have a socket for a light fixture, and I've always had to supply the lights.
The only thing in Japan that is harder than being a foreigner in Japan, is being Japanese in Japan.
I think I could stretch to buying a light bulb if it came to it. Or just ____ in the dark.
It's the security deposit and key money that I'd be worried about.
Re: what to do after JET. If accepted (big if) I would be eligible to stay with JET for 4 years if recontracted (since I've already served one). So I would do that, and hopefully by that time my Japanese would be up to N2 at least. I've a solid background in advertising behind me so could then hopefully enter the creative industry. A lot of ad agencies in Tokyo and Osaka that work in both English and Japanese. I expect a lot of people to scoff at this idea, but hey, gotta have a dream. Or be delusional. I'll let you decide.
You are really being had if you are still paying key money. You can get a cheap apartment in the bigger cities and its suburbs for 1-2 months deposit, no key money. It's also not hard to find apartments that require neither deposit of any kind nor key money, from places such as Leo Palace (which offers long term unfurnished leases) and other realtors who cater to foreigners. The rent is not any steeper in most cases.
Even from traditional realtors though, these days nobody is paying key money nor 5 times the rent in deposit. Expect at MOST to pay 2 months deposit and the first month's rent. If you're paying more than that in this current day and age, you are being had.
There's a difference between getting paid monthly and bi-monthly, the latter of which still being the golden standard in many industries in the States so many people are surprised when they come to Japan. But it's not so much the monthly pay that sucks, it's that it's usually delayed by a month or more when you first start so you end up getting no pay for 2-3 months at first, which is usually the time you need it the quickest. Being that Japan doesn't have any jobs with tips it isn't like you can pick up some shifts as a waiter for quick cash in between paychecks, either.