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Thread: Gulag For Gaijin - Yet Another Scandal. Will You Remain Silent?

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    This link comes from the Economist, a respected journal. It tells the tale of a Canadian journalist who, if you believe what he says, appears to have been wrongly detained by Airport "border security" Nazis.

    The gaijin community usually prefers to close its eyes when it hears stories like this. "It would never happen to people like us. We are white, we are not from some third world ghetto. We don't do drugs - we have never been in trouble before etc" Maybe the much-maligned Debito was on to something when he took a stand against some of the wrongs that exist in Japan. Read this. Caution - it may make your blood boil.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/banya...ration-control

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    AN EXTRAORDINARY story is making the rounds among the hacks and other expats in Japan. A Canadian freelance journalist who has lived in Japan for years fell into the ugly whirlpool of Japanfs immigration-and-detention system. For years human-rights monitors have cited Japanfs responsible agencies for awful abuses; in their reports the system looks like something dark, chaotic and utterly incongruous with the countryfs image of friendly lawfulness.

    Still the case of Christopher Johnson beggars belief. Returning to Tokyo after a short trip on December 23rd he was ushered into an examination room, where his nightmare began. Over the next 24 hours he was imprisoned and harassed. Most of his requests to call a lawyer, the embassy or friends were denied, he says.

    Officials falsified statements that he gave them and then insisted that he sign the erroneous testimony, he says. Guards tried to extort money from him and at one point even threatened to shoot him, he says\unless he purchased a wildly expensive ticket for his own deportation, including an overt kick-back for his tormentors. Once he was separated from his belongings, money was stolen from his wallet and other items removed from his baggage (as he has reported to the Tokyo police).

    The problems to do with Japanfs immigration bureau have been known for years. Detainees regularly protest the poor conditions. They have staged hunger strikes and a few have committed suicide. A Ghanaian who overstayed his visa died in the custody of guards during a rough deportation in 2010. (In that case, the prosecutor has delayed deciding whether to press charges against the guards or to drop the case. A spokesperson refuses even to discuss the matter with media outlets that are not part of the prosecutorfs own gpress clubh.)

    Mr Johnsonfs ordeal closely matches the abuses exposed in a 22-page report by Amnesty International in 2002, gWelcome to Japan?h, suggesting that even the known problems have not been fixed. One reason why the practices may be tolerated is that the Japanese government apparently outsources its airport-detention operations to a private security firm.

    It is a mystery to Mr Johnson why he was called aside for examination, but he suspects it is because of his critical coverage of Japan. (Mr Johnsonfs visa status is unclear: in an interview, he said his lawyer advised him not to discuss it.)

    Reached by The Economist, Japanfs immigration bureau said it cannot discuss individual cases, but that its detentions and deportations follow the law, records of hearings are archived and the cost of deportation is determined by the airline. The justice ministry declined to discuss the matter and referred all questions to the immigration bureau. Canadafs department of foreign affairs confirmed to The Economist that a citizen was detained and that it provided gconsular assistanceh and gliaised with local authoritiesh.

    Mr Johnsonfs own rambling account of his saga appeared on his blog, gGlobalite Magazineh. It must be considered as unverified, despite The Economistfs attempts to check relevant facts with the Japanese and Canadian governments. As a result, we cannot endorse its accuracy. We present edited excerpts, below, because they are deeply troubling if true.

    On my way home to Tokyo after a three-day trip to Seoul, I was planning to spend Christmas with my partner, our two dogs, and her Japanese family. I had flight and hotel reservations for ski trips to Hokkaido and Tohoku, and I was planning\with the help of regional government tourism agencies\to do feature stories to promote foreign tourism to Japan. While taking my fingerprints, an immigration officer saw my name on a computer watch list. Without even looking through my passport, where he might find proper stamps for my travels, he marked a paper and gave it to another immigration officer. hCome with me,h he said, and I did. He led me to an open room. Tired after three hoursf sleep overnight in Seoul, I nodded off. Officers woke me up and insisted we do an ginterviewh in a private room, gfor your privacy.h Sensing something amiss, I asked for a witness and a translator, to make sure they couldnft confuse me with legal jargon in Japanese. An employee of Asiana Airlines came to witness the ginterview.h The immigration officers provided a translator\hired by immigration. She turned out to be the interpreter from hell. hHi, whatfs your name?h I asked, introducing myself to her. gI donft have to tell you anything,h she snapped at me. She was backed up by four uniformed immigration officials. Q: gWhat are the names of the hotels where you stayed in April in the disaster zone? What are the names of people you met in Fukushima?h A: gWell, I stayed at many places, I met hundreds of people.h Q: gWhat are their names?h A: gWell, there are so many.h Q: gYou are refusing to answer the question! You must say exactly, in detail.h (Before I could answer, next question.) Q: gWhat were you doing in May 2010? Who did you meet then?h A: gThat was a long time ago. Let me think for a moment.h The interpreter butted in: gSee, you are refusing to answer. You are lying.h

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    The ginterpreterh, biased toward her colleagues in the immigration department, intentionally mistranslated my answers, and repeatedly accused me of making unclear statements. I understood enough of their conversation in Japanese to realise she totally got my story wrong. Without hesitation, he wrote on a document: gNo proof. Entry denied.h gBut I do have proof,h I said. But he refused to acknowledge it. gYou must sign here. You cannot refuse.h For about four hours, I sat in limbo, unable to properly communicate with the outside world. Starving and tired, I couldnft think clearly. Various people in various uniforms aggressively shoved various documents in my face for me to sign. I simply said gwaith to everything and zoned out into a world of denial that this nightmare wasnft happening. At about 4 pm, the security guards came to take me away. Two haggard old men probably in their 60s or 70s, were like dogs barking at my heels. They were constantly shaking me down for money. They demanded 28,000 yen as a gservice feeh for taking me to buy rice balls and cold noodles at the convenience store. What is going on here, I wondered. I started to get worried when they took me deep into a cold tunnel below the airport. Away from [ordinary travellers in the airport], they got more aggressive with demands of now 30,000 yen for a ghotelh fee. I was feeling threatened. (I would later find Amnesty International accounts of rogue guards working for the airlines beating up airline customers in the tunnel until they paid up.) Well, at least Ifm going to a hotel, I thought. Ifll make some phone calls there, go online, and get higher-ranking officials to help me out of this big misunderstanding. * * * The ghotelh was in fact a jail. A prison, a detention facility, a dungeon. hThe police just told me I could make a call from here,h I said in Japanese. A guard told me flat out in Japanese: gYou have no rights here.h A sign, in English, Japanese, and other languages, lists phone numbers for United Nations organisations dedicated to helping victims of state brutality. gIt says right here that I can call these numbers.h gNo you canft.h They led me into a locked off area with at least two sleeping cells. The room was cold, with no windows. Lying under thin blankets, using my parka (down jacket) as a pillow, I stared at the ceiling and walls. Later that night, I was ordered into the common room. A man, probably in his 50s, was waiting to see me. His tie said gimmigration.h He was warm and compassionate. He tried his best in English and Japanese to explain what was happening. He said, to my surprise, that the other officers were gidiotsh. He said they had no business putting foreigners\tourists or expats\in jail like this. gIt is a shame for Japan,h he said. gEmbarrassing.h After talking to me, he went out for a few minutes and came back to give me more documents to sign. One was titled gWaiving the Right to Appealh, meaning, gWe are kicking you out of the country.h The other was an gappeal formh. It said I had three days to appeal to gthe Minister of Justice.h This at least gave me hope that someone would recognise their mistake, and let me go home After he left, the guards granted me a privilege\the right to take a shower. My show of respect, and polite language toward them, was reciprocated. They let me make a phone call. They gave me a form to fill out\this is Japan, after all\listing the nationality, name, phone number and relation of that person. I tried to milk it. While pretending to check my phone messages (technically not a phone call), I sent messages on Facebook. I wrote short, and sent quickly, in case they caught me: (In jail now c Narita c No rights c Innocent c Help me.) I went back to my cell dejected. I lay under blankets in my winter clothes, tormented. I chased away dark thoughts\suicide, protest, escape\from my mind. I cried for myself, and for the tortured souls of the previous tenants. * * * I was so exhausted from the ordeal that I did fall asleep, shortly after they turned off the lights at 11pm. When I woke up at 10 am on Saturday morning, December 24, my cell was unlocked. [From] the jailfs common room, I was allowed to call my partner. gDonft worry,h I said, gTheyfre going to let me go home soon. Itfs all been a big mistake.h The guards now let me make a second call, to my embassy representative. Though helpful and genuinely concerned, she said, gonly Japan has authority. Therefs nothing we can do.h She said my worried family and friends, who saw my messages on Facebook, had been calling her to offer assistance. She also had faxed a list of lawyers and legal assistance agencies in Japan to the immigration officers. It was a smart move, because it showed them that powerful people in Canada\the department of foreign affairs, the Canadian embassy, media people\were indeed watching what they were doing with me, a human, with a name, family and supportive friends. It was a way to humanise me. [But] the papers were useless. How could I contact a legal website, if I wasnft allowed internet? How could I call a lawyer, if I wasnft allowed phone calls? There was another call for me. This time from someone at Asiana Airlines. hHow are you doing this morning?h she asked, cheerfully. She said they had been calling my partner at home, asking her to pay 170,000 yen for my one-way ticket to Canada. I wasnft pleased to hear that. gIfm not going home to Canada,h I scolded her. gMy home is in Tokyo. I live here, in Japan.h gThis is a good offer, you should take it,h the airline employee insisted. gIf you donft, the price will go up. The normal price is 400,000 yen. If you wait, you will pay 400,000 yen.h gThatfs crazy,h I said. gI paid 25,000 yen for a round trip ticket to Seoul on your airline. And now you want me to pay 170,000 yen, or 400,000 yen? Thatfs $5,000, for a one-way ticket. Thatfs more than five times the normal rate, because Ifm in jail.h The airline employee hung up. I was worried. gThis is a scam,h I thought. The airline guards are shaking us down for money, and now the airline is price gouging me, and even harassing my partner to pay. But I was cheered about an hour later, when the guards told me, gPack up your bags. Donft leave anything behind.h It was good news. They were going to let me out of here. My appeal worked, I thought. Theyfre going to release me and let me go home. A Special Inquiry Officer sat me down in his office, across from the Special Examination Room where everything had gone wrong a day earlier. He showed me a document from the Ministry of Justice. It was an gExclusion Orderh, with my name on it, next to the details of a flight leaving for Canada. I was crestfallen. gNo, thatfs not right,h I said, confused. gThere is a plane leaving for Canada at 7pm. You must take that plane.h gBut I live in Tokyo. I have a life here.h gIf you do not take that plane, you could end up in jail for months, years. And youfll never be allowed back into Japan.h Next, the airline employees came around to hit me up for money. They now wanted 200,000 yen for a one-way ticket on Air Canada. I told them it was a rip-off. I knew that a round trip ticket at HIS travel agency in Tokyo was 50,000 yen plus tax. gOK. 170,000 yen, plus 30,000 for the hotel fee and the security guards,h they said. gThis is outrageous,h I said. I grabbed my phone from them, since they still had my passport and bags. I called a friend. gQuick, call the police. Tell them Ifm in the immigration office, Narita terminal one.h The immigration officers derided me. gPolice do not have jurisdiction to come in here,h they laughed. gNarita is a special legal area.h * * * The airline employee and the [private security guards] were alone with me in a room. hYou must hurry up and buy this ticket,h the Asiana employee said. gCan you pay 150,000 yen?h He went out to negotiate with another airline. When he came back, he said, gThe best I can do is 130,000 yen, plus 30,000 yen for the [guards].h gNo,h I said. gThis is wrong. This is a scam. You are just trying to profit off someone in a weak position, a victim of human rights abuses.h Again, he went out, and came back with a new offer. hI have asked for special prices. I can do it for 100,000 yen. Anything lower is absolutely impossible. Ifm really trying to help you. Please get on this flight.h It was already after 5 ofclock. People were checking in for the 7 pm flight. I was really sweating now. This time, he came back with a young, stocky guy. He was wearing a blue uniform. gDo you see this gun?h he said in Japanese, turning around to show me a weapon in its holster. gI have the legal authority to use this if you refuse to get on that flight. Now are you going to buy that ticket?h I was angry now. They are forcing me at gunpoint to buy an overpriced ticket. The [guards] ushered me out of the room and through the airport. They still had my bag, my passport, my wallet, credit cards, everything. I had no choice. They whisked me through the airport like a criminal. I didnft have to line-up for x-ray machines or immigration. [They] pushed me through VIP lines, ahead of pilots and flight attendants. As we walked to the departure gate, they continued to badger me for money. I told them flat out, gThis is wrong. Have some pride. I am a working man just like you.h

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    The older guys backed off. They sensed I wasnft going to give in to their pressure. But a hideous older bulldog of a woman was much more relentless. Even the Asiana officers were taken aback by her uncultured onslaught. She raised the demand in increments\30,000 yen, 35,000 yen, 38,900 yen\the tactic of a third world market haggler, trying to pressure you to buy before the price goes higher. Still holding my passport, she dogged me all the way to the gate. gIfm going to fly with him all the way to Canada,h she said to another [guard], in Japanese so that I could hear it. At the departure gate, I sat down amongst ordinary people happy to be going home for Christmas or on a ski holiday to Canada. I made several last phone calls to loved ones in Japan. My partner cried so heavily, she made me cry. I told her to hug our dogs for me. At that point, I realised I might never see our 15-year-old dog ever again. My heart burst open like a seawall against a tsunami. Flowing with tears, I ran to the bathroom\to hell with asking the guards. I returned to my seat near the gate. I didnft even look at anyone. I just covered my face in my hands and cried. Finally, the [female guard] gave up. The two male [guards] escorted me onto the plane, and finally gave me back my passport. As the Pacific coastline came into view, I gazed perhaps one last time at the street lights and dark rice fields below. It was a feeling I had never considered before: what it would be like to leave Japan, and not return. I could only notice that the vast majority of space below was filled with a deep and utter darkness. Somewhere out there, in the gulag of detention centres dotting the land like black holes in the heart of Japan, were the cries of innocent people who would not be heard.

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    I don't know anything about Christopher Johnson, except what I have read in the Economist. From his blog, it appears as he he is a bona fide journalist, with more than 2000 articles under his belt - a good many of them in major newspapers.

    http://globalite.posterous.com/
    http://posterous.com/users/4bmOia30r...ivities/page/1

    It does seem very harsh for the authorities to have deported him, giving that he had lived in Japan for so many years.

    Does anyone else have any information on this fellow? Is he legit? Or (less likely) is he yet another criminally minded gaijin who thinks he is above the law?

    One thing is certain, he seems to have been on some kind of watchlist which is why they took him aside at the airport.

    Does anyone have any information on this guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    This link comes from the Economist, a respected journal. It tells the tale of a Canadian journalist who, if you believe what he says, appears to have been wrongly detained by Airport "border security" Nazis.

    The gaijin community usually prefers to close its eyes when it hears stories like this. "It would never happen to people like us. We are white, we are not from some third world ghetto. We don't do drugs - we have never been in trouble before etc" Maybe the much-maligned Debito was on to something when he took a stand against some of the wrongs that exist in Japan. Read this. Caution - it may make your blood boil.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/banya...ration-control
    It has already made lots of people's blood boil, but not necessarily always for the reasons you suggest...

    http://www.japanprobe.com/2012/01/20...gulag-article/
    http://www.____edgaijin.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=27818
    http://www.debito.org/?p=9868
    http://www.reddit.com/r/japan/commen...e_immigration/
    http://tepido.org/dont-put-your-finger-in-my-___/629
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    Brow up Genkii, I can believe that is true.

    See other topic on "Punishing Dissent".

    I am interested in reading all this but ... FFS ... paragraphs please!

    It is just a blur of wallpaper going back otherwise. Part of what I could read rings true to me.


    I hear one of the foreign "dolphin activists" got sent straight back to Australia from Haneda without making the mainland, which was a joke as he is a serious critic of Sea Shepherd. I expect to see more of that censorship happening in the future.
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    For context, a good explanation of what is going on here.

    Though also, by this time, there's a goodly dose of this too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    .... Caution - it may make your blood boil. ...
    mine is still as cold as winter in Alberta....


    perhaps this was all a conspiracy -- orchestrated by those Korean based Security Guards ....who were plotting all along to get to the guyfs dog ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by iago View Post
    For context, a good explanation of what is going on here.

    Though also, by this time, there's a goodly dose of this too.
    Agreed. It is really, really badly written.

    I am interested to see how this story pans out though. I am sure there is some truth to it all and it does seem that some reform is required.

    I could not work out if the woman in the story was his ex-wife, or had been made ex- my the "extradition". This may add to the visa question.

    I could believe he was being blackballed for his journalistic activities. The government has gone into overdrive removing critical opinions and dissent re Fukushima and nuclear power off the web and censored a lot of the horrendous stories re animals in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beentheredonethat View Post
    I could believe he was being blackballed for his journalistic activities. The government has gone into overdrive removing any critical opinions re Fukushima and nuclear power off the web.
    Or you could believe he got kicked out because he was on the wrong visa.

    Last Monday a Nepalese guy was kicked to death in the street in Osaka, if you want to worry about something, worry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by well_bicyclically View Post
    mine is still as cold as winter in Alberta....
    perhaps this was all a conspiracy -- orchestrated by those Korean based Security Guards ....who were plotting all along to get to the guyfs dog ....
    Yes, obviously it never happened. Or its totally exaggerated. The victim is complaining and has no credibility at all. Just like that poor Ghanaian man who was deported and found dead on his airplane seat. After almost two decades in Japan, marriage to a devoted local woman and no evidence of criminality he deserved to die for overstaying his visa. Serves him right eh.

    You are a sick cOunt WB. I hope something like this happens to you someday. Might make you a humble person.

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    Well, lets get back on target regarding this.

    Some facts;

    The writer is a recognized journalist
    He is very critical regarding issues in Japan and a thorn in their side
    He has in the past p!ssed off the US regarding his support of Bobby Fischer and other issues, he doesn't dare transit the US
    It's not the first time he's been on the wrong side of the law–that actually happens a lot to non accredited journalists who don't toe the official line in Japan
    Possibly his visa had expired and as we all know visa runs have been made quite illegal

    The story has been up for a week on other sites, I haven't seen fit to mention it here because I wanted to see what the common man would say about it.

    And yes, I'm concerned because I've had more than my share of run ins with the Japanese authorities and left them looking stupid. That very likely puts me on one of the many lists that bureaucrats like to keep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edin“ú–{ View Post
    The story has been up for a week on other sites, I haven't seen fit to mention it here because I wanted to see what the common man would say about it.
    are you a common woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    ...Mr Johnsonfs visa status is unclear.
    Why is this unclear?

    Did he have a vaild visa or not?
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    Three day trip to Korea, eh? Visa status 'unclear'? Smells like a visa run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefan View Post
    are you a common woman?
    I just can't bring myself to use person, besides in French personne means a non entity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    For about four hours, I sat in limbo, unable to properly communicate with the outside world. Starving and tired, I couldnft think clearly.

    LOLOLOLOL Four hours?
    Before you say anything, prepare to shut the f_u_c_k up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    Yes, obviously it never happened. Or its totally exaggerated. The victim is complaining and has no credibility at all. Just like that poor Ghanaian man who was deported and found dead on his airplane seat. After almost two decades in Japan, marriage to a devoted local woman and no evidence of criminality he deserved to die for overstaying his visa. Serves him right eh.

    You are a sick cOunt WB. I hope something like this happens to you someday. Might make you a humble person.

    Everyone of us in Japan is here as a guest. Everyday we run the risk of being asked to leave. If you hold your life and loves in Japan dear to you, one must take steps to reduce the opportunities in which the government could ask you to leave.


    apparently JC is confused on several issues...... He has difficulty discerning people hating him and people thinking he is an arsehole. ......and apparently he does not realize that airline tickets sold on or close to the day of departure are a tad more expensive than those sold well in advance.


    .....RT. was it the part about the anal probe that got you all hot????
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    Quote Originally Posted by edin“ú–{ View Post
    I just can't bring myself to use person, besides in French personne means a non entity.
    what about common people ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefan View Post
    what about common people ?

    I might have some of their music on file. Just let me check my stack of DL'd cd's
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    it seems this guy has FINALLY explained his visa status. if i understand correctly, it seems that his work visa renewal was being processed and he expected that having the stamps and documents to prove that would mean that he could leave and reenter japan without a problem and without a valid reentry permit. now we/he knows that you cant count on doing that! if he had just included this bit in the beginning, he wouldnt have pissed off nearly so many people with all his BS about not telling us the details regarding his visa status. sure his story about his detention, etc. explores valid complaints about the deportation system, but it would have been nice if he wouldnt have so stubbornly refused to tell us this MUCH sooner!

    Though I had work visas dating back to 1989, and papers saying the government had acknowledged the receipt of my application to renew my work visa, I was detained at Narita airport and expelled. It was either bureaucratic incompetence, for which Japan has no shortage, or it was a back-handed way to kick a critical journalist out of the country.
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    So the guy tried to enter the country without a valid visa and was deported.

    As such, his complaints about the deportation process may be valid, but his complaints about the fact that he was deported are not. We all have a responsibility to keep up with the rules and regulations about out visa statuses. He didn't, and he only has himself to blame for that - which is why I'd assume he was being a little vague about his visa status.
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    Amnesty International has been very critical of detention procedures in Japan. But nobody pays much attention because most of the victims are from third world countries. They rarely complain. Now its happened to a Canadian......and a white man at that. We must be thankful for small mercies - thank goodness they did not beat or kill him.

    The death of the Ghanaian detainee barely a year ago was especially shocking. By all accounts he was an exemplary non-citizen, a family man who kept out of trouble. His Japanese wife is pretty distraught over the whole thing. Yes, he overstayed for almost 20 years........but did he deserve to die for it? Serves him right eh. He should have known better, being a guest and all that. I'm unsure if he has any children. But if so, serves em right as well......


    Some of you people have hearts of stone. I sincerely hope that this sort of thing happens to a few of the "serves-em-right" naysaysers on this thread. Might make you a bit humbler and compassionate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haildamage View Post
    it seems this guy has FINALLY explained his visa status. if i understand correctly, it seems that his work visa renewal was being processed and he expected that having the stamps and documents to prove that would mean that he could leave and reenter japan without a problem and without a valid reentry permit.
    Shouldn't they have told him that on the way out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    Amnesty International has been very critical of detention procedures in Japan. But nobody pays much attention because most of the victims are from third world countries. They rarely complain. Now its happened to a Canadian......and a white man at that. We must be thankful for small mercies - thank goodness they did not beat or kill him.

    The death of the Ghanaian detainee barely a year ago was especially shocking. By all accounts he was an exemplary non-citizen, a family man who kept out of trouble. His Japanese wife is pretty distraught over the whole thing. Yes, he overstayed for almost 20 years........but did he deserve to die for it? Serves him right eh. He should have known better, being a guest and all that. I'm unsure if he has any children. But if so, serves em right as well......


    Some of you people have hearts of stone. I sincerely hope that this sort of thing happens to a few of the "serves-em-right" naysaysers on this thread. Might make you a bit humbler and compassionate.
    There's no need to lecture–especially when you are afraid to take action. I did my part back in the days when people who refused to get fingerprinted for their little brown books were routinely taken into custody and physically forced to give up their fingerprints. Where were you and what were you doing then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by edin“ú–{ View Post
    There's no need to lecture–especially when you are afraid to take action. I did my part back in the days when people who refused to get fingerprinted for their little brown books were routinely taken into custody and physically forced to give up their fingerprints. Where were you and what were you doing then?
    You can take my freedom, but you cannot take my fingerprint!
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    if any of you really cared you'd get into politics in japan and make an issue out of it.

    the guy who wrote this particular story is a total loser and a liar, but the fact remains as everyone has pointed out, immigration in japan is full of thugs. the whole immigration bureau needs to be cleansed.

    the problem with tackling this kind of problem is that most people feel too strongly about it to represent it in a way that will get it changed.

    while you may actually feel totally enraged by the whole thing, you need to be able to bring the issue to the surface in a totally calm and collected way in order for anyone else to listen to you - native japanese born people just plain don't give a $hit. most people don't even care that the government lied to them about a nuclear disaster - let alone immigration issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paradoxbox View Post
    ...native japanese born people just plain don't give a $hit. most people don't even care that the government lied to them about a nuclear disaster - let alone immigration issues.
    Even Debito has packed it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowtokyo View Post
    Some of you people have hearts of stone. I sincerely hope that this sort of thing happens to a few of the "serves-em-right" naysaysers on this thread. Might make you a bit humbler and compassionate.

    Thank you for wishing I'll onto others. Sound Judeo / Christian ethic you got going there.... Keep it up.
    ... and thanks to you well_bicyclically, you helped me a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken44 View Post
    Even Debito has packed it in.
    Oh, fudge....packed it in....
    ... and thanks to you well_bicyclically, you helped me a lot.

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    "I told her to hug our dogs for me. At that point, I realised I might never see our 15-year-old dog ever again. My heart burst open like a seawall against a tsunami. Flowing with tears, I ran to the bathroom\to hell with asking the guards. I returned to my seat near the gate. I didnft even look at anyone. I just covered my face in my hands and cried."

    I was certainly close to tears after reading this piece of stunning journalism.


    Scandal? Oh, I can see the headlines now.....

    WORLD YAWNS AS WHINY BLOGGER EJECTED FROM JAPAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haildamage View Post
    it seems this guy has FINALLY explained his visa status. if i understand correctly, it seems that his work visa renewal was being processed and he expected that having the stamps and documents to prove that would mean that he could leave and reenter japan without a problem and without a valid reentry permit. now we/he knows that you cant count on doing that! if he had just included this bit in the beginning, he wouldnt have pissed off nearly so many people with all his BS about not telling us the details regarding his visa status. sure his story about his detention, etc. explores valid complaints about the deportation system, but it would have been nice if he wouldnt have so stubbornly refused to tell us this MUCH sooner!

    http://globalite.posterous.com/insid...ita-airp-91122
    That still doesn't make any sense. If you've applied to extend or change your status of residence, you can still leave and re-enter Japan with no problems, as long as your current status of residence is valid and is not a short-term visitor (tourist) visa, and you have a valid re-entry permit. So yes, if that's true he should have been able to leave and re-enter.

    Makes no sense.

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    If you leave the country while your visa application is in process, the application is canceled. Which is what appears to have happened to this guy.
    The only thing in Japan that is harder than being a foreigner in Japan, is being Japanese in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twelvedown View Post
    "I told her to hug our dogs for me. At that point, I realised I might never see our 15-year-old dog ever again. My heart burst open like a seawall against a tsunami. Flowing with tears, I ran to the bathroom\to hell with asking the guards. I returned to my seat near the gate. I didnft even look at anyone. I just covered my face in my hands and cried."

    I was certainly close to tears after reading this piece of stunning journalism.


    Scandal? Oh, I can see the headlines now.....

    WORLD YAWNS AS WHINY BLOGGER EJECTED FROM JAPAN.


    The prose certainly could use a bit of tidying up.

    Maybe: "My heart burst open like the end of a cheap Johnny cap against the onslaught of pent-up semen from a seaman on shore leave in a Manila brothel."
    I think it's true and that's good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    The prose certainly could use a bit of tidying up.

    Maybe: "My heart burst open like the end of a cheap Johnny cap against the onslaught of pent-up semen from a seaman on shore leave in a Manila brothel."
    Please don't mention that word.

    That Concordia cruise you sold me on...I slipped and fell in a big pile of Mediterranean seaman. It was quite a sticky situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twelvedown View Post
    Please don't mention that word.

    That Concordia cruise you sold me on...I slipped and fell in a big pile of Mediterranean seaman. It was quite a sticky situation.
    At least you didn't slip on the poop deck.
    I think it's true and that's good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hijinx View Post
    At least you didn't slip on the poop deck.
    Unfortunately that is where it happened.

    However I managed to get the seamen off fairly easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twelvedown View Post
    Unfortunately that is where it happened.

    However I managed to get the seamen off fairly easily.
    And all the while you were screaming "Vada a bordo, cazzo!"
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