Sophia University vs Temple University Japan

[jsmooth23]

So, I was thinking which one is better to go to. I live on a military base in japan and I want to major in International business which university would be better? I know Sophia is a top school but that is only for the japanese people I don't know if it's the top for the FLA program which is taught in English. I am planning to stay for a year or two and get my japanese up then transfer to a school in the states. By the way I am both American and Japanese and i speak both languages fluently but my kanji isn't great so I hope to get my Kanji up in these couple years. So who ever knows which is better Sophia/Jochi or Temple as far as education, girls, the people, having fun, cost, dorms environment and anything else useful that would help me thankyou.

[WasedaChris]

sophia girls are known to be top tier. jussayin'

[KansaiBen]

This is the third thread you have started on the same topic.

Get a coin. Temple is Heads, Sophia is tails.

Give it a spin and see what happens.

Another word of wisdom from an old fart. Its not Sophia's or Temples job to entertain you and make sure you have a fun time. They are not there to provide you with fun and girls. An education and learning is what you make it. All they do is provide the content and the means to graduate. All the rest is a personal journey.

[jsmooth23]

This is the third thread you have started on the same topic.

Get a coin. Temple is Heads, Sophia is tails.

Give it a spin and see what happens.

Another word of wisdom from an old fart. Its not Sophia's or Temples job to entertain you and make sure you have a fun time. They are not there to provide you with fun and girls. An education and learning is what you make it. All they do is provide the content and the means to graduate. All the rest is a personal journey.

Actually, I posted this before the very first post I posted. I'm just trying to get as much information as I can and not just one person.

[kurogane]

Neither are particularly good universities, but they will accept anybody with a pulse and ready cash.

If your marks and such are good or better, check out the new English instruction programmes offered at real Japanese universities, like Tsukuba and such.

[Ansony]

So, I was thinking which one is better to go to. I live on a military base in japan and I want to major in International business which university would be better? I know Sophia is a top school but that is only for the japanese people I don't know if it's the top for the FLA program which is taught in English. I am planning to stay for a year or two and get my japanese up then transfer to a school in the states. By the way I am both American and Japanese and i speak both languages fluently but my kanji isn't great so I hope to get my Kanji up in these couple years. So who ever knows which is better Sophia/Jochi or Temple as far as education, girls, the people, having fun, cost, dorms environment and anything else useful that would help me thankyou.

Well at least you offered some criterion on which to rank...other comments here can be disqualified based upon the biases they all have toward what makes a university "good".

Education: sophia will likely offer you the standard one-way mindless lecture approach, some of which will come from Catholics priests. Temple will have some lecture, but learning will also be much more interactive (i.e. less time to sleep in class).

Girls: Quality vs quantity. Sophia is large, so lots to choose from. Temple is small (ave. class size 20). This means fewer to choose from, but stand outside the school one day and watch what comes out. Temple will do surprisingly, if not amazingly well in this area given its size. A fair number halfs...oops, bi-culturals, which can make for some incredible combinations.

The people: Who?

Having fun: Sophia will offer the standard "Let's Join the Tennis Circle", whereas Temple will offer fun closer to American style college parties.

Cost: Not sure. Temple may be a little more expensive though.

Dorms: Temple doesn't have dorms. Sophia likely does.

I was very happy to see that your have your priorities straight on how to choose a university.

[KansaiBen]

I was very happy to see that your have your priorities straight on how to choose a university.

He didnt actually mention whether he would learn anything at either of them. Pretty expensive way to party for four years.

[jsmooth23]

Well at least you offered some criterion on which to rank...other comments here can be disqualified based upon the biases they all have toward what makes a university "good".

Education: sophia will likely offer you the standard one-way mindless lecture approach, some of which will come from Catholics priests. Temple will have some lecture, but learning will also be much more interactive (i.e. less time to sleep in class).

Girls: Quality vs quantity. Sophia is large, so lots to choose from. Temple is small (ave. class size 20). This means fewer to choose from, but stand outside the school one day and watch what comes out. Temple will do surprisingly, if not amazingly well in this area given its size. A fair number halfs...oops, bi-culturals, which can make for some incredible combinations.

The people: Who?

Having fun: Sophia will offer the standard "Let's Join the Tennis Circle", whereas Temple will offer fun closer to American style college parties.

Cost: Not sure. Temple may be a little more expensive though.

Dorms: Temple doesn't have dorms. Sophia likely does.

I was very happy to see that your have your priorities straight on how to choose a university.

Thanks, that helped a lot by the way they offer dorms at Temple, I saw it on the website but you only can stay for 1 semester before you have to move to an apartment. I think I'm going to go to Temple for it's accreditation for both the U.S. and Japan. Have you been to either universities?

[jsmooth23]

He didnt actually mention whether he would learn anything at either of them. Pretty expensive way to party for four years.

Like I said I'm going to stay for a year or 2 then transfer to the states I'm also going to apply for scholarships and financial aid

[KansaiBen]

Like I said I'm going to stay for a year or 2 then transfer to the states I'm also going to apply for scholarships and financial aid

Like I said before, all Temple (and Sophia) does is provide you with an education and a piece of paper. The rest (girls/ social life) is stuff that you have to do for yourself. No point asking which is "better" when its the academic content that you should be worried about. If you have bad lecturers (and I have heard of that being the case even at Temple) you either suck it up or you complain to the Dean.

My experience having spent upwards of ten years in tertiary level learning is that it is what you make of it.

My guess is your worry is whether it will be money well spent or not.

For my part I had no regrets going to Temple, even though it left me 2 million yen poorer.

While I think of it, is the unspoken message here also "will I be able to get a job once I graduate with a Temple degree, and which is the best university to help me achieve that goal?" Its almost as if you expect that there is a social contract between you that you be able to find a job based on what you study at Temple or Sophia, am I right?

[Ansony]

He didnt actually mention whether he would learn anything at either of them. Pretty expensive way to party for four years.

Indeed, learning was not directly mentioned. He didn't ask, so I didn't offer any thoughts on it. If he feels like partying for 4 years, then that is his choice. I don't think it is a Potter's obligation to offer advice or mentorship on things that the OP didn't ask about...though some here do seem to feel obliged to do just that. What fun is going into university with your eyes wide open? He will figure out once in where and how he wants to divide his time. As an undergrad, I started 40% party/40% women/20% academics and then gradually shifted more towards academics by years 3 and 4...and I even got into graduated school...3 times.

And here we are talking about him like he's not even here....

[Ansony]

Thanks, that helped a lot by the way they offer dorms at Temple, I saw it on the website but you only can stay for 1 semester before you have to move to an apartment. I think I'm going to go to Temple for it's accreditation for both the U.S. and Japan. Have you been to either universities?

Happy to help. I've not been a student at either, but lets just say I have spent a fair amount of time at both, much more at Temple though. I am biased.

[KansaiBen]

And here we are talking about him like he's not even here....

Especially when daddy's probably paying for it. If its your own money you are usually more careful about how you spend your time and money. I paid my own way through grad school (Temple M.Ed) and a PhD so I didn't have much time for partying and mucking around.

[Ansony]

Especially when daddy's probably paying for it. If its your own money you are usually more careful about how you spend your time and money. I paid my own way through grad school (Temple M.Ed) and a PhD so I didn't have much time for partying and mucking around.

My pops covered most of my undergrad and seemed just as proud of my social feats as my academics ones (and the former were far more apparent). Both are, in my eyes and I guess my dad's, equally as important. If someone spends four years in uni and leaves having only achieved academic success, then they've only received half an education.

KB, grad school is a whole different kettle of fish.

[KansaiBen]

My pops covered most of my undergrad and seemed just as proud of my social feats as my academics ones (and the former were far more apparent). Both are, in my eyes and I guess my dad's, equally as important. If someone spends four years in uni and leaves having only achieved academic success, then they've only received half an education.

KB, grad school is a whole different kettle of fish.

Probably because he did the same things when he was at college. I know my kids will probably party and join clubs but as long as they pass their courses I don't have a problem with it. I have known cases where parents pulled their kids out of university because they were failing too many courses. All Im saying is keep your eye on the ball and know what you are going there for.

[Ansony]

Probably because he did the same things when he was at college. I know my kids will probably party and join clubs but as long as they pass their courses I don't have a problem with it. I have known cases where parents pulled their kids out of university because they were failing too many courses. All Im saying is keep your eye on the ball and know what you are going there for.

Yup, good old pops had an outstanding time in uni, I suspect. He also had a heck of a career. I agree that knowing what they are going there for is important. But perhaps we might disagree on the content of the "what". Academics is just part of the mix. A university is an organization much like any other. How we work our way in, out, through and between things is a huge part of the learning that will have very practical applications in a career. The difference between successfully picking up an intelligent woman in a college bar and smoozing ones way successfully through a job interview are slight...

[KansaiBen]

So who ever knows which is better Sophia/Jochi or Temple as far as education, girls, the people, having fun, cost, dorms environment and anything else useful that would help me thankyou.

To what extent is Temple is responsible for each of these and to what extent are you responsible for your own enjoyment of the experience? When I was an undergrad, I went out and made my own fun, my own friends and did not rely on Temple or my college to provide these for me.

My guess is kids of bicultural families attend Temple, they live at home, and I don't know whether or not temple has a hostel for freshmen, may pay to write them and ask. You can choose who you want to associate with. One of the joys of college life is that you become independent and you learn to "do your own thing" even if that means getting blotto at college parties.

[jsmooth23]

Indeed, learning was not directly mentioned. He didn't ask, so I didn't offer any thoughts on it. If he feels like partying for 4 years, then that is his choice. I don't think it is a Potter's obligation to offer advice or mentorship on things that the OP didn't ask about...though some here do seem to feel obliged to do just that. What fun is going into university with your eyes wide open? He will figure out once in where and how he wants to divide his time. As an undergrad, I started 40% party/40% women/20% academics and then gradually shifted more towards academics by years 3 and 4...and I even got into graduated school...3 times.

And here we are talking about him like he's not even here....

Uh...I said education which means learning right? Also you guys don't know me, thanks for the advice but yea I'm going to party, but school comes first and I get my priorities before I will go out and partying. You and KansaiBen don't know me so don't act like you guys do.

[Ansony]

Uh...I said education which means learning right? Also you guys don't know me, thanks for the advice but yea I'm going to party, but school comes first and I get my priorities before I will go out and partying. You and KansaiBen don't know me so don't act like you guys do.

Sorry jsmooth23, at that point in the conversation I believe we had moved on to principles rather than you personally. Thread highjacking is pretty common around here. I didn't have you down as a party hound, but the point being, it would be no big deal if you were. People approach university in their own way, as no doubt you will too. I hope it all goes well.

[kurogane]

Also you guys don't know me,

Once could simply be bad luck..................

You and KansaiBen don't know me so don't act like you guys do.

But twice can only be retardation.


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I suppose I should have known from your university choices you would be at best a plebby Ameridumb party prole.


Why not just get a trade???

People of your low breeding and defective mental abilities usually do better working your backs than your minds.

[KansaiBen]

Uh...I said education which means learning right? Also you guys don't know me, thanks for the advice but yea I'm going to party, but school comes first and I get my priorities before I will go out and partying. You and KansaiBen don't know me so don't act like you guys do.

So how does one quantify which school is "better"? Which school has "hotter" girls? Which has "better" parties? Which has "better" dorms?

What exactly do you want people to tell you based largely on their own subjective opinions and biases? I can only give you my own viewpoint as a former graduate of the the Osaka campus, I know nothing about Tokyo. It is unlikely you will get any further feedback of value here on studying as an undergrad. You will simply have to throw the chips where they may and go for it. You also need to decide whether you want a Japanese Bachelors degree or an American one and live with your choices, rather than expecting other people to make up your mind for you. It's your money, you decide how you best want to spend it. Thats all I can say.

PS My experience of Temple is that they tend to be more demanding in terms of coursework, completing assignments on time and actually studying. With Japanese universities by and large all you have to do is turn up, and Sophia wont fail you because they need your tuition money more than you need them. You have to imagine you are back in Philadephia and they wont let you graduate unless you actually put the work in.

[Ansony]

So how does one quantify which school is "better"? Which school has "hotter" girls? Which has "better" parties? Which has "better" dorms?

Given the variables your offered and going back to my day:

Better School = Parties with hot girls that end up in your dorm.

That was easy. Come on KB, give us a tough one.

[KansaiBen]

Better School = Parties with hot girls that end up in your dorm.

That was easy. Come on KB, give us a tough one.

Judging by the other thread about foreigners getting laid (or not) in Japan, I would not hold my breath too long on that happening in this lifetime.


Compared to the US parties here tend to be pretty tame affairs anyway.