What a lame thread! It should be entitled " Why losers and tossers need to justify their failed lives".
What a lame thread! It should be entitled " Why losers and tossers need to justify their failed lives".
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Well, it's too bad you can't seem to figure out how to cut loose in a bar. Try going with a friend and just talking w people. Some will know English, even if it is some older Japanese guy ojisan, it's still an in to girls (mores than being a angry hermit).
Also, ever try and learn Japanese? All women love to play the nurturing role, and being the foreigner in need works like a charm. If I had a penny for ever guy who's said they're learning Japanese or have been learning for a long time but can't hold a conversation in Japanese. Be that guy! Lol
Why not pick up women at the bookstore? There's an English section, and you know the girl can read at leastof course the Internet works too, but c'mon, get out and live a little, have some experiences and see what opportunities open up in reality.
And as you've read some pua stuff I'd hope you've gotten some confidence to approach women. Think of it as sales, and your selling yourself. In sales either you sell a product, or your target sells you on why they can't/won't buy. Don't accept no for an answer, stay persistent, and even get a little aggressive and pushy (in a outside your normal environment, don't sh1t where you eat)you'll find a happy medium that works well, but till then go out and make mistakes. Success is just the most recent result of thousands of prior mistakes anyway.
Good luck, make us proud, and post some stories![]()
It has been my experience that women will approach a man if there is something they want. But that doesnt mean that women are going to go up to a guy in a bar and ask for his number or try and seduce him. The game doesnt work that way. No matter how good looking or tall or allegedly successful someone is, women will not throw themselves at a man if he isnt absurdly rich or famous.
OP, you will die sad and alone. It amuses me greatly you were banned.
Lol, just because you ain't seen it doesn't mean it don't exist. And it's all attitude. Drop the sad attitude he has now, and start working toward something funtional and impressive, he can come around. 30 seconds can determine a night together given the right attitude. And good looking tall guys broker than a joke can pull girls all night unlike you, sad to say, and the rockafellers are still richer than you too, zannennagara, but get over it and start working on sheet you can control and hope for the best. Lol. Last girl I talked to I told her to plan a date and take me out since I did the same last time. It's only fair right, and they smart and it'll let u know about their thoughts and likes. Think about it. Funny thing is my friend who's much more a pimp than me called me a pimp.
I remain fully convinced you don't need game here, you just need the cojones to talk to women and be assertive all the time. The guys I see at bars that constantly pull only have one thing in common, they are assertive enough to flirt with the women that catch their eye and keep the conversation going. Japanese women don't like having to assert themselves over men in an overt way, in or outside a bar. I refuse to believe that anyone over 170cm and who is white can't get laid in this city. It's outright unthinkable.
I don't think it's even beauty that does it a lot of the time.
It doesn't happen every other week, but I am frequently bemused by the sheer number of Kvorka invitations I receive.
It reminds me of a bad country music song:
Some girls don't like me, but some girls do.
Here it is. WARNING: The following video involves the performance of country music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do think a lot of these same women assume I am either wealthy or powerful..............which doesn't say much for their species wide evolutionary competitiveness, or their social perception.......
The problem is.....................only 3% or less are even worth wasting an hour or 2 to get to Hoochy Poochy Land.
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Well, one time, we were leaving a club, and this girl that had approached him in the club earlier came running out calling for him. He went back, talked to her for a minute, then came back to my buddy and I who were waiting. She had said 'I was kind of hoping you'd come home with me'.
Another time, we were in a bar, and this chick I can only describe as amazing walked right over, sat down with us, and started talking to us... and by us I mean him. Thirty minutes later, they left, and he went back and banged her all night long.
Anytime I go to the clubs with this guy, girls are always approaching and talking. To say I'm not envious would be a lie, but he's one of my best friends, so I'm stoked for him. At least I can live semi-vicariously through him.
I was always referred to as good looking when I was younger, but that's not the same as the beautiful people. Things work differently for them.
The only thing in Japan that is harder than being a foreigner in Japan, is being Japanese in Japan.
I don't think you need to be absurdly good looking to get women to approach you, and even then it's the exception and not the rule. I have been at bars or clubs with guys that are literally male models and there are nights no ladies approach us.
I was thinking of putting myself out there, in trendy clothes and wearing a corset, but I decided against it, purely because I have a morbid fear of walking frames, false teeth, halitosis and dried up pvssy.
At my age, that's about all I'd attract.
Better off staying home with the child bride, who even now, only looks to be in her thirties.
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Anybody who claims Japanese women don't approach men (or at least western men) is either a blind fool or has hardly ever been to a bar or club in Japan.
I'm a good looking guy but by no means a male model. I've gone to bars and clubs big and small in Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe and small towns (both Gaijin type hangouts and otherwise). I've gone alone, with one or two other friends, and in large groups. I'd say I get approached a little over half the time I go out. It's usually preceded by a little bit of eye contact and perhaps a smile but I'm still talking about women I have never met or aren't part of the same group as I am approaching me. It doesn't always lead to getting laid (and no I don't just sleep with any woman I can get my hands on either) but it's clear that they aren't approaching just to practice English.
It may not be a cultural norm for Japanese women but it still happens all the time. Do some of you really not know that there are a ton of horny women out there, many of whom do not necessarily feel deep shame at the thought of asserting themselves (and yes I'm still talking about Japan here).
And let's also dispel the myth that it's only ugly women that do this. None of the ones that came up to me looked like super models but basically if you lined them all up it would look like a fairly typical sample of Japanese women in their 20s and 30s. many were average looking and some perhaps a bit less but many were also very attractive.
Most of the times I have been approached in bars here I have been alone or with a few friends. That said, most women will not approach a man in any country without some sort of social cue to approach. This is where eye contact is very important. Most women in general will not approach men, particularly the attractive ones. I have seen that often the guys that do get approached are the ones that have game or a good looking face. Both of which are much, much more important than money, power, athletic body or anything else. Without a good looking face, it's hard to get the super attractive women anywhere without a lot of game. That said, the super attractive women here probably aren't worth the effort.
In all countries women compete for the top 20% or top 10% of men. But these are not "decent" men. They are jerks and men who display signs of social, psychological and sexual dominance. Nothing to complain about, just the way things are.
The "decent" men get to clean up and pay for the princess but they don't get the ____.
Such as male prostitute or sperm donor?
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I think it's really easy to meet girls in Japan, specifically at train stations or on train rides. I met tons of people at these places. I also went up and talked to any girl who stared at me. They don't stare at you because you look boring. You just have to let the shyness go. I'm not saying it's gonna get you a girl every time but at worst it's just going to be practice which you can never have enough of.
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