Divorce on the cards????

[rainbowtokyo]

I'm wondering whether it's possible that your wife might have Post Natal Depression? That may explain the loopy behaviour. .

Good observation TT. Plenty of depression to be seen in Japan. Awareness is a huge issue and it is unfortunate that hardly anyone bothers getting treatment. I guess they are all too busy working. If she is this loopy now, imagine how she will be when menopause hits home.

Most of the money i have saved is in my superannuation (retirement fund) back in Australia which i don't have access to until i'm 65 and getting access to that, though possible, is quite difficult. Does anyone know if she has a right to any of that if we divorce??
Cheers

Your Super is safe. She cannot access it. Nor can you, in all but the most dire circumstances. The rules these days are pretty tight.

I'm really sorry to learn of your difficulties. Its weird how (in developed countries) its women who are the first to want to get married and the first to file for divorce.

Goodluck dude.

[Genkii]

Like I said before she sees you as a loser because you can't get a job. It doesn't matter if she has a good job herself. They expect men to earn more money. It's hardwired in their brains. She is embarrassed her husband is an ikumen and doesn't have a job. She doesn't want to loose face so she lost all respect and is playing with you in the hope you get tired and find a job.

It's this or she really have some mental problems.

Either way you should man up and if she gets irrational again you give her a hug and if that doesn't work then you slap her in the face because she deserved it.

[Vortex]

1) have had her back in this situation.....have always told my family as to why she is angry and stuck up for her and got apologies from them (but they weren't acceptable in her eyes). Have spoken to my sister again and got her to send another apology in the off chance this 1 will be acceptable.
2) same as 1 really but draw the line in having to stop speaking to any member of my family....she has a right to be angry with them for what happened and i don't argue that point...but telling me i have to stop speaking to my sister as she is angry with her just doesn't sit well with me.

It shouldn't.

Your wife, whatever her reasons or sense of grievance is trying to humiliate your family. Why let her do it? Do you seriously believe if you pulled this s.hit on her, she would find it reasonable? You're letting someone bully you by playing the culture card. Whether you speak to your sister is none of her business, even if the reason wasn't something as surrealistically trivial as this.

Your real problem is whether you're going to be able to stay married, and failing that, whether you'll be able to continue seeing your child. Not what your family did. If tomorrow you gave the wife everything she's demanding, do you think a problem like this wouldn't come up again? It's controlling behaviour, it's going to happen again and again, and you're ensuring that it will.

Christ, man.

[Genkii]

llbartlett,

I'm wondering whether it's possible that your wife might have Post Natal Depression? That may explain the loopy behaviour. I'm also wondering whether the appology she is seeking requires some kind of financial compensation. I'm not suggesting that should happen, but I don't really understand why she won't accept the mutiple appologies that have already been given. Obviously it's a cultural misunderstanding of some sort and perhaps the guy Liamoko has recommended, or someone like him, may be able to help you both to sort it out.

Hahaha. Funny how all weak guys say "Maybe it's a culture difference" All you guys are in denial.

[Effected After]

You're moron if you believe that. While I don't agree with some of the guys who blame their insecurities and weaknesses on cultural differences on the site here (i.e. cultureshock), anyone who is married to someone from another culture faces cultural differences, and sometimes some really big ones. I've been through a number of stunners through the years with my wife, and we have to work our way through them.

[Genkii]

You're moron if you believe that. While I don't agree with some of the guys who blame their insecurities and weaknesses on cultural differences on the site here (i.e. cultureshock), anyone who is married to someone from another culture faces cultural differences, and sometimes some really big ones. I've been through a number of stunners through the years with my wife, and we have to work our way through them.

I was only referring to the arguments in this topic not in general though.

I'm no expert at all, but it's clear this women is controlling her and he is not doing anything about it.

[Effected After]

And how many kids do you have?

[rainbowtokyo]

Sorry I don't understand. Why is it the women who always want to file for divorce?

Don't ask me why, I have no idea. The fact is that in most western countries, as many as three out of four divorces proceedings are formally initiated by women.

[spacetiger]

Maybe i should have put a TL/DR for you!!
What i asked was about alimony/lump sum payments and child support payments and what would be required of me if it ever comes to divorce.
As for caring about my super over my child.....all i said was my super is unavailable until i get to retirement so if a big payment was required i'm not sure if i could have done it in 1 lump sum.
I have already started the ball rolling for her future by putting money aside for her from my previous work.....by the time she gets to 18 hopefully she will have about yen80mil...whether she uses this for university or as spending money is up to her. This is on top of child support (if it ever has to come to that).

And as for grabbing my kid and jumping on a plane.....awesome idea!!! get charged for kidnapping....would make things so much better!!!!

I'm sorry, but I don't know what a TL/DR is. You seem a bit focused on the money side of things. Do you honestly think handing an 18 year old Y80 mil & saying "here ya go - knock yourself out" is a good thing? I was serious about taking your kid. As some others have pointed out, it's not kidnapping if you get away with it. Posession is 9/10ths of tha law. Even if she comes after you & it goes to court in Oz, at least it shows here you're serious about her being a freaky nut job & you've had a gutsfull. Should be a wake-up call for her. You night even get full custody if you roll out your rellies & evidence of the apologies they've already given for a transgression that is pretty much all in her head. What else are you goig to do? Lie on the couch & think of ways to apologise for her vindictiveness while you worry about how long you can stand it?

[KansaiBen]

Sorry I don't understand. Why is it the women who always want to file for divorce?

Because the man usually has a lot more to lose in a marriage breakup. House, car, pension, access to kids.

Heres 10 reasons many people divorce

http://www.top10stop.com/lifestyle/t...ts-from-the-us

[llbartlett]

I'm sorry, but I don't know what a TL/DR is. You seem a bit focused on the money side of things. Do you honestly think handing an 18 year old Y80 mil & saying "here ya go - knock yourself out" is a good thing? I was serious about taking your kid. As some others have pointed out, it's not kidnapping if you get away with it. Posession is 9/10ths of tha law. Even if she comes after you & it goes to court in Oz, at least it shows here you're serious about her being a freaky nut job & you've had a gutsfull. Should be a wake-up call for her. You night even get full custody if you roll out your rellies & evidence of the apologies they've already given for a transgression that is pretty much all in her head. What else are you goig to do? Lie on the couch & think of ways to apologise for her vindictiveness while you worry about how long you can stand it?

For future reference TL/DR = too long didn't read.
As for the money side of things....not worried about losing super....was just asking if my wife was entitled to any of it if we divorced as that is not the case in Australia and was unsure how how it went here.
As for my daughters money....i put that aside for her when i 1st found out my wife was pregnant to make sure he had a good start in later life.
I'm not sure if planning for my kids future is a bad thing.
Preferably she would use it for something smart like university but if she decides not to go hopefully can use it to set her selfup and not have to struggle.
Only time will tell.

[llbartlett]

Like I said before she sees you as a loser because you can't get a job. It doesn't matter if she has a good job herself. They expect men to earn more money. It's hardwired in their brains. She is embarrassed her husband is an ikumen and doesn't have a job. She doesn't want to loose face so she lost all respect and is playing with you in the hope you get tired and find a job.

It's this or she really have some mental problems.

Either way you should man up and if she gets irrational again you give her a hug and if that doesn't work then you slap her in the face because she deserved it.

If she was so worried about me getting a job and earning more than me then she should never have asked me to come here.
She always knew if i came here she would be earning more than me and she even told me work would not be eays for me to get.
If she was so focused on me earning more then would have been better for her to come to Australia where i was earning the same as what our combined income would be here.
And as said previously i have been looking for work since December...but have only been met with no response or rejections.
My skill set doesn't transfer well to here as i worked in management for a chemical company where is started from bottom in early 20's.
Unfortunately i didn't go to uni and have a degree which seems limit my options here as well.

[MrS]

Your wife needs to get a grip. She is being extremely childish and selfish about this white dress colour thing. It shows her up as being a vacuous airhead. There are far more important things to focus on in life than frickin' dress colour.

[Tink_Thinks]

Hahaha. Funny how all weak guys say "Maybe it's a culture difference" All you guys are in denial.

Well for a start... I'm not a guy! Secondly... What the hell would you know? Seriously... when you have some real life experience little boy, then you may be qualified to make a comment. Until such times, you would be doing everyone a favour by keeping your mouth shut.

[oxymoron]

Having waded through most of the advice, abuse etc in this thread, a lot of which appears to have come from younger posters who have never married, I can only offer a little advice from my own experience. I have survived two divorces and one successful marriage, so maybe have some idea what I'm talking about.

If a marriage is toxic, walk away! Whatever it costs you now is worth it. If you can get custody of your child legally, do it, because bitter wives have no compunction in turning your kids against you. They love to use them as a weapon. Sadly, my kids have all learned to hate me, thanks to the bullsh!t their mothers fed them. So, if you don't have custody, get used to that happening.

If you intend to snatch your child and run, illegally, don't do it, no matter how rational it seems at the time. Eventually, you'll get caught and will have to return the child, which is really going to mess with the child's head. You don't want to do that, even if it breaks your heart.

You're in a sh!tty situation, deal with it. Eventually, you'll find someone special and all will be good.

That's my two yen's worth.

[Genkii]

Your wife needs to get a grip. She is being extremely childish and selfish about this white dress colour thing. It shows her up as being a vacuous airhead. There are far more important things to focus on in life than frickin' dress colour.

Exactly she is insane. She should be happy their inlaw family booked a plane and showed up at your wedding. (I assume you two married in jp)

If she doesn't appreciate that then clearly she got some mental problems.

Just wondering. Where did you two meet?

[Genkii]

I agree with Jprerioro.

And if you're going to do it. Do it good. Ask the owner of this site to delete your forum account + posts (they will do so if you explain and be polite)

Once that's done remove all the evidence left from google cache. You can do so here: http://support.google.com/webmasters...answer=1663688

If you follow the steps it will be deleted within 1 day from the google cache.

Edit: You can delete the cache without being the owner. Only required chance is the topic must be deleted. Effected After I know you like to disagree with everything and everyone to fill that empty hole in your life. But I have you on ignore now. I should have done that earlier. Don't you get tired of yourself?

[Effected After]

I agree with Jprerioro.

And if you're going to do it. Do it good. Ask the owner of this site to delete your forum account + posts (they will do so if you explain and be polite)

Once that's done remove all the evidence left from google cache. You can do so here: http://support.google.com/webmasters...answer=1663688

If you follow the steps it will be deleted within 1 day from the google cache.

Only a site owner can have a site removed from google, with the exception of some copyrighted content.

[Effected After]

Yes, if the admin removes the page. But only site owners can do that, and google won't stop the indexing if the page is still there, without a request from the site owner.

[Effected After]

This tool is designed to remove content from Google’s index only if the site owner has already removed the page from the web or blocked it from search engines. If these changes haven’t been made, the process won’t work.

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[Effected After]

Why are you so ____ing dumb?

I said first ask admin to delete the forum account + posts

Then ask for page deletion.

Damn you so stubborn. Are you family of Kansaiben?

For a guy who is whining about his posts not being read, you sure seem determined not to read posts:

Yes, if the admin removes the page. But only site owners can do that, and google won't stop the indexing if the page is still there, without a request from the site owner.

Edit: I see you deleted your post.

[Genkii]

For a guy who is whining about his posts not being read, you sure seem determined not to read posts:


Edit: I see you deleted your post.

Oh my god you are so tiresome.

Again:

1. Contact the owner of the site directly (do a whois on gaijinpot.com)
2. Ask him to delete your account + posts (they will do so as they did with my previous name before)
3. Request deletion from google Google does not need permission from the owner of GP, they only require the content is not available anymore)

The request is the removal of a cached page. You can request a deletion of that so it doesn't show up in the search again.

Is it so hard to admit you were wrong?

Yes I deleted my posts because these are not relevant to the topic. You have a tendency to disagree with everyone and everything here just for the sake of disagreeing It's so sad.

[Effected After]

And again, for a guy who is whining about his posts not being read, you sure seem determined not to read posts:

Yes, if the admin removes the page. But only site owners can do that, and google won't stop the indexing if the page is still there, without a request from the site owner.

[thefg]

* She has tried to hit your child;

* She has threatened to drown the child when you are not at home;

* She is threatening self-harm unless you "fix the problem" you keep talking about.


Get my drift yet?


I am not telling you what to do, you already know what you "have to do".

Plan meticulously, have your friends and loved-ones on standby. You are going to have to get surgical with this one.

No room for error.

Private message me if you would like a solicitor's number - Espanol, English, 日本語　okay.

But Australia is your best bet.

Not from Queensland by any chance are you? If yes, contrast custody/protection laws in the various state and territories.

Clearly everything is against you in Nihon so getting yourself in to a position of strength is paramount.

Destroy everything that can compromise you in the event you are discovered. Plausible deniability is great, but her own self-incrimination is even better.

Start logistics preparation, and put pre-ops reconnaisance and information procurement in to action. You are going to war; wars come in many forms, not simply guns and cannons.

Get off this forum and stop wasting your time any further with "us" - the forum partcipants.

It is better for your sake that we don't publically hear from you until the operation is completed.

Perhaps you could start by deleting your threads on this topic.

Use logic for every increment - that is a given.

Don't allow yourself to be emotionally compromised. Plan smart, plan wise and there is a happy ending.

Ten years from now you are at a barbecue with your mates and your daughter, who is now blooming in to a beautiful young woman, is by your side; wouldn't that be nice.

End of (...)



Reperio

are you suggesting he should kidnap his kid?


if you are then you are an evil mother f_cker

thats just sick - evil


The dispute is between husband-wife - its got nothing to do with the kid-mother relationship


taking a kid away from its mother is evil (unless theres evidence kid is in harm)

and if thats what your insinuating I hope you get cancer and die you sick c-nt

(if its not what your insinuating then, never mind)

[thefg]

* She has tried to hit your child;

* She has threatened to drown the child when you are not at home;

* She is threatening self-harm unless you "fix the problem" you keep talking about.


Get my drift yet?


I am not telling you what to do, you already know what you "have to do".

Plan meticulously, have your friends and loved-ones on standby. You are going to have to get surgical with this one.

No room for error.

Private message me if you would like a solicitor's number - Espanol, English, 日本語　okay.

But Australia is your best bet.

Not from Queensland by any chance are you? If yes, contrast custody/protection laws in the various state and territories.

Clearly everything is against you in Nihon so getting yourself in to a position of strength is paramount.

Destroy everything that can compromise you in the event you are discovered. Plausible deniability is great, but her own self-incrimination is even better.

Start logistics preparation, and put pre-ops reconnaisance and information procurement in to action. You are going to war; wars come in many forms, not simply guns and cannons.

Get off this forum and stop wasting your time any further with "us" - the forum partcipants.

It is better for your sake that we don't publically hear from you until the operation is completed.

Perhaps you could start by deleting your threads on this topic.

Use logic for every increment - that is a given.

Don't allow yourself to be emotionally compromised. Plan smart, plan wise and there is a happy ending.

Ten years from now you are at a barbecue with your mates and your daughter, who is now blooming in to a beautiful young woman, is by your side; wouldn't that be nice.

End of (...)



Reperio

Ive archived this.

If he kidnaps the kid I will hand this into the authorities as evcidence that you aided and abeted in the commission of a crime


Your an evil horrible horrible person to even suggest this

[Genkii]

Ive archived this.

If he kidnaps the kid I will hand this into the authorities as evcidence that you aided and abeted in the commission of a crime


Your an evil horrible horrible person to even suggest this

Please report me also. My life is already boring as it is.

[thefg]

My life is already boring as it is.

clearly









.................................................. .................................................. .......

[Genkii]

thefg, is the government your friend?

I was not originally going to respond any further but perhaps a caveat is required for the symptomatic.

I will, however, delete my threads by the outlined date as, on this matter, I definitely plan to keep my word.

First, it is difficult to kidnap from your own parental custody - but since you are firmly on the side of the Japanese government and it's horrid track record on this one, I am going to elaborate.

You need not proceed in the manner you so describe.

Here is the canvass thus described, based on the data we have all been provided:

Japanese girl travels looking for a guy and decides she wants white babies (I presume the dude is Caucasian) and meets a compatible reasonably successful receptor who is climbing the corporate ladder in the chemical industry despite having not graduated from college/university. After no doubt bragging to her friends back home about her finding the one and preparing for her cinderella white wedding [take note of that colour for it becomes the "new evil" as we will learn later].

She forces him to give up his career because she is worried about losing her own nursing career (at least temporarily) after having her first newborn baby. *Take note: this is a big "red flag" indicator. A first time mother should be more concerned about nurturing her first newborn baby than worrying about whether she has to temporarily suspend her career. So far image is proving far more important to her based on several above-mentioned factors.

Afterward, she drags his sorry arse across to the other side of the planet, where he does not yet know the language and threatens to divorce him for not living-up to her desired image.

But don't worry he is still supporting the family with savings he has bought with him while performing most of the baby sitting responsibilities.

She continues to threaten divorce unless he completely severs ties with his family. *Take note: Another BIG "red flag" indicator.

He: Describes how he has saved money in a fund for his daughter's future education.

She: Blackmails him (see the family threat - divorce your family or I will divorce you), Manipulates him based on his current weak position - which she has engineered we should add. Finally she is proving to be extremely controlling, not only of him but of his family (at least).

She will likely divorce him, but not before his money runs out. Then she will likely milk him for everything else he has saved in other accounts/trusts, while simultaneously milking every bit of "moral utility" from her own friends and family for being a poor single mother. She will have the pity card up her sleeve, which she will likely exploit to full effect/her advantage. Of course this is speculation based on her previous and current behaviour. I am just looking at the data here like everyone else.

As for terms such as "evil", such terms belong to a pre-scientific worldview of which I do not correspond. It has not meaning to me. I have empathy and intellect that is all.

I really need you to catch up with me on this one.

There are many ways to do this if you plan smart:

Convince her to get on a plane with you back to Australia because your family wants to conduct a formal apology to her; this is likely to flatter her sense of entitlement and ego.

Tell her that your family wants to help assist with the children's start in life and would like to sign-over (donate) a new house to your name; money will make her move even if her ego won't.

Whatever it takes to get her on a plane.

Once you have arrived at the airport you have DOCS (Australia's Child Protective Agency) on standby, and a relevant judicial or police authority ready to serve against her an Apprehended Violence Order (AVO) [the equaivalent to a restraining order regime used in Canada or the UK], while your lawyer is awaiting for you both at the aiport for a speedy get-away to an undisclosed location.

Then you employ relevant surveillance systems/services to conduct information gathering while you prepare your case.

Obviously, there are now many legal options available to you as the ball is firmly in your court. But a strategy of exhaustion is clearly going to work in your favour. The longer the case drags out the more it costs her in hotel bills, legal fees and translator services. It is unlikely that she would have many contacts in Australia and your own friends are hardly going to roll-out the red carpet to help her based on her history.

The options are countless.


A. B. C.


Reperio

I love it when a plan comes together

[rainbowtokyo]

thefg, is the government your friend?

I was not originally going to respond any further but perhaps a caveat is required for the symptomatic.

I will, however, delete my threads by the outlined date as, on this matter, I definitely plan to keep my word.

First, it is difficult to kidnap from your own parental custody - but since you are firmly on the side of the Japanese government and it's horrid track record on this one, I am going to elaborate.

You need not proceed in the manner you so describe.

Here is the canvass thus described, based on the data we have all been provided:

Japanese girl travels looking for a guy and decides she wants white babies (I presume the dude is Caucasian) and meets a compatible reasonably successful receptor who is climbing the corporate ladder in the chemical industry despite having not graduated from college/university. After no doubt bragging to her friends back home about her finding the one and preparing for her cinderella white wedding [take note of that colour for it becomes the "new evil" as we will learn later].

She forces him to give up his career because she is worried about losing her own nursing career (at least temporarily) after having her first newborn baby. *Take note: this is a big "red flag" indicator. A first time mother should be more concerned about nurturing her first newborn baby than worrying about whether she has to temporarily suspend her career. So far image is proving far more important to her based on several above-mentioned factors.

Afterward, she drags his sorry arse across to the other side of the planet, where he does not yet know the language and threatens to divorce him for not living-up to her desired image.

But don't worry he is still supporting the family with savings he has bought with him while performing most of the baby sitting responsibilities.

She continues to threaten divorce unless he completely severs ties with his family. *Take note: Another BIG "red flag" indicator.

He: Describes how he has saved money in a fund for his daughter's future education.

She: Blackmails him (see the family threat - divorce your family or I will divorce you), Manipulates him based on his current weak position - which she has engineered we should add. Finally she is proving to be extremely controlling, not only of him but of his family (at least).

She will likely divorce him, but not before his money runs out. Then she will likely milk him for everything else he has saved in other accounts/trusts, while simultaneously milking every bit of "moral utility" from her own friends and family for being a poor single mother. She will have the pity card up her sleeve, which she will likely exploit to full effect/her advantage. Of course this is speculation based on her previous and current behaviour. I am just looking at the data here like everyone else.

As for terms such as "evil", such terms belong to a pre-scientific worldview of which I do not correspond. It has not meaning to me. I have empathy and intellect that is all.

I really need you to catch up with me on this one.

There are many ways to do this if you plan smart:

Convince her to get on a plane with you back to Australia because your family wants to conduct a formal apology to her; this is likely to flatter her sense of entitlement and ego.

Tell her that your family wants to help assist with the children's start in life and would like to sign-over (donate) a new house to your name; money will make her move even if her ego won't.

Whatever it takes to get her on a plane.

Once you have arrived at the airport you have DOCS (Australia's Child Protective Agency) on standby, and a relevant judicial or police authority ready to serve against her an Apprehended Violence Order (AVO) [the equaivalent to a restraining order regime used in Canada or the UK], while your lawyer is awaiting for you both at the aiport for a speedy get-away to an undisclosed location.

Then you employ relevant surveillance systems/services to conduct information gathering while you prepare your case.

Obviously, there are now many legal options available to you as the ball is firmly in your court. But a strategy of exhaustion is clearly going to work in your favour. The longer the case drags out the more it costs her in hotel bills, legal fees and translator services. It is unlikely that she would have many contacts in Australia and your own friends are hardly going to roll-out the red carpet to help her based on her history.

The options are countless.


A. B. C.


Reperio

Repeiro, you are my hero. In another life, your name was Machiavelli!

[thefg]

thefg, is the government your friend?

no I just dont believe anyone but a sick twisted monster would steal a baby away from its mother


this is what your supporting and proposing


what a simpleton like you doesnt get is the relationship between the mother and father have NOTHING to do with the relationship between the mother and her child.




to kidnap a baby from its mother is f_cking evil (unless baby is in danger) no matter what the mother has done to the father - no matter what. Thats beween mother and father.


Untill a man carries a baby for 9 months gives birth and breast feeds he is NATURALLY not as invested as the mother. To steal a child because you "dont like the way the mother behaved" is sick evil and unjustifiable


Your a horrible horrible sick and very stupid moron. I hope you die soon

Dont bother to reply Ive added You Genkii and Rainbowtokyo to my ignore list

[KansaiBen]

to kidnap a baby from its mother is f_cking evil (unless baby is in danger) no matter what the mother has done to the father - no matter what. Thats beween mother and father.
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Japanese women kidnap their kids from their homes/fathers all the time and often spirit them to other countries.. Don't see what makes it right just because of the parents gender.

[thefg]

Japanese women kidnap their kids from their homes/fathers all the time and often spirit them to other countries.. Don't see what makes it right just because of the parents gender.

and where did i say it was right?





lordy there are some dumb people in this forum...

[KansaiBen]

and where did i say it was right?

yet if the father does it its somehow wrong because you are separating kid from the mother. If mother does it its OK, seems to be your logic.

[thefg]

yet if the father does it its somehow wrong because you are separating kid from the mother. If mother does it its OK, seems to be your logic.

no sorry thats not a logical assumption based on what I said at all. Where did you learn logic.....


Saying kidnapping a child from its mother is wrong does not imply my stance is that its ok for a child to be kidnapped from a father.




It clearly is wrong. But taking a child from its mother is in most cases MORE wrong due to fact a mothers bond is in most cases closer.

[Meguroblonde]

what a simpleton like you doesnt get is the relationship between the mother and father have NOTHING to do with the relationship between the mother and her child.

To be more factual? The simpleton is you.

There are millions of bad mothers. Millions. Real witches. You may not have met them, but I would assume a quick google would turn up enough to turn your stomach.

You are always making stupid proclamations on here as though the world operates in black and white. It happens almost every time your fingers touch the keyboard.

Before you go simpleton in your reply, note that I did not say this particular dad should kidnap his daughter. I don't know enough to make that call. Neither do you.

[KansaiBen]

It clearly is wrong. But taking a child from its mother is in most cases MORE wrong due to fact a mothers bond is in most cases closer.

The mothers "bond" is because she carries the thing around for 9 months, shoves outside a small opening (like giving birth to a watermelon) and breastfeeds it for the first few years of life. When men learn how to bear babies instead of women it will be a cold day in hell.

I will add there have been cases in Japan of children physically abused by their mothers. One I know of was left outside on a balcony for 3 to 4 days as punishment and died of exposure. Kid was only about 7-8 years old. Another one threw her daughter off a bridge as she couldnt be bothered looking after her, and also murdered a neighbors son.

[Genkii]

To be more factual? The simpleton is you.

There are millions of bad mothers. Millions. Real witches. You may not have met them, but I would assume a quick google would turn up enough to turn your stomach.

You are always making stupid proclamations on here as though the world operates in black and white. It happens almost every time your fingers touch the keyboard.

Before you go simpleton in your reply, note that I did not say this particular dad should kidnap his daughter. I don't know enough to make that call. Neither do you.

Exactly. All women are evil fickle minded manipulative creatures from hell!

*charging flameshield*

[KansaiBen]

Exactly. All women are evil fickle minded manipulative creatures from hell!

All except mothers and grandmothers of course. Im sure they probably gave their men a run for their money in their day though.

[thefg]

To be more factual? The simpleton is you.

There are millions of bad mothers. Millions. Real witches. You may not have met them, but I would assume a quick google would turn up enough to turn your stomach.

You are always making stupid proclamations on here as though the world operates in black and white. It happens almost every time your fingers touch the keyboard.

Before you go simpleton in your reply, note that I did not say this particular dad should kidnap his daughter. I don't know enough to make that call. Neither do you.

well thats just a very stupid post by someone who clearly isnt too bright.

as with most cases of internet debates we are (obviously) taking about generalisations.

You call me a simpleton for arguing the case that (in general) women have a closer bond to their kids than men

And your evidence to support this is that there are some bad mothers and witches about.


You do understand that these two points are not mutually exclusive right?


If you truly believe that MOST mothers do not share a closer bond to their children than MOST dads you are either

1) Not a women (and certainly not one who anyone wants to bread with - clearly)
2) Do not know any women (who have had children)
3) A dumb blonde.....


From your handle - im going with 3.



You call me a simpleton for arguing that the relationship between mother and child has nothing to do with that of mother and father (when it comes to kidnapping)

If the mother is a total _____ to the husband but loves and cares for her kid - is it ok to kidnap?
If my business partner p1sses me off is it ok if i steel money from our company?

of course the answer is no. it doesnt matter how much you hate your ex, doesnt matter what she did to you - thats between husband and wife. you cant claim/steel the kid away because you dont get on with the ex or because shes a _____. the only justification would be as mentioned if kid is in danger in otherwords what matters is relationship between mother and kid! - get it now sweetheart?









You post is as stupid as it is full of venom - having your PMS?


Why dont you go get your nails done again sweetie - that might help with the cramps

[Meguroblonde]

I didn't read all that. You lost me at claiming I'm not too bright.

I called you a simpleton because you applied a generalization to an individual case.

Get it?