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Thread: Stealing Students

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    Quote Originally Posted by vallient View Post
    why do they pocket 1000\ of that (half of what you made) well they took all the risks and did all the legwork in building the business to begin with. If its so easy, your free to find out and start a school yourself.
    What they also forget is that you want to start pulling in more than you make in a salary that is after all your expenses are taken out. Most new schools dont even clear a profit in the first couple of years as they build up a student base from which they draw their revenues. All money they make goes back into covering shortfalls and covering costs. You likely wont be able to pay yourself what you are earning as a salary for quite a while.

    If you imagine that to make 250,000 a month profit from your business, you have to be pulling in at least double that so you can pay your overheads, salary, advertising, rent, and utilities Calculate how many students you need paying saying 3,000 yen an hour (say 12,000 yen a month, by 8 hours a day, 5 days a week to cover at least your overheads, never mind anything left over.You might have kids classes paying 20000 yen a month but that will be once or twice a week. You have to deal with student cancellations, finding new students, no shows.

    I think noobie teachers flatter themselves that they think they are indispensible to their students and the students will simply change horses because you decide to quit and work for yourself. Some will but the majority will not, and you will also find students will quit on you on a dime. A lot of your time is spent networking and prospecting for new students. Do you know where to find them and how to keep them once you have got them? What will you use to draw them in or are you going to teach them out of Starbucks? Real professional.
    Last edited by KansaiBen; 2012-04-16 at 10:52 PM.

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    I am curious as to what people think about students following teachers when they leave their schools, as opposed to teachers 'stealing' students. I know of a few similar situations with some teachers that i know, where they began teaching their old students privately after they were contacted by them after leaving their previous schools. Personally i see nothing wrong with this except that some of the larger schools have it written into the teacher's contracts that it is forbidden for teachers to teach any of their students within a set time period after leaving the school. Personally, i know a handful of my students will finish when i eventually leave at some point next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hml View Post
    Taking advantage of your relationship as a teacher to steal students is akin to seducing a student. A teacher's influence with students is very strong. It's very difficult to see one as unethical and the other not.
    You are correct. Therefore he should seduce the students as well to be consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChucklingJawa View Post
    I am curious as to what people think about students following teachers when they leave their schools, as opposed to teachers 'stealing' students. I know of a few similar situations with some teachers that i know, where they began teaching their old students privately after they were contacted by them after leaving their previous schools.
    Legally there might be some issues, but ethically I figure it's all good. Students have the right to spend their money where they want, and if they want to follow a teacher, that's their right. But it has to be initiated by the student.
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