Will having been a teenage Domintrix preclude me from getting a student visa?

[camusttedare]

Hello,

I really appreciate everyone's help and thank you in advance for the answers.

Several years ago, out of sheer adventurousness and youthful stupidity, I began working at a New York S&M club. There was no sex whatsoever; it was a real-deal place. However, several months into my dabbling with chains and whips, a squad of police officers broke down our door and arrested every Domme they found inside. Once on the inside, my lawyer informed me that the decoy claimed that we all agreed to have sexual intercourse with him--a complete and utter lie, of course, but it was their word against ours. I have, indeed, met with with the customer who then turned out to be a police decoy; he never mentioned sexual intercourse (he would be immediately ejected if he were to do so); i informed him that the things he did request--cross-dressing, as far as I remember--were not my specialty.

Long story short, I ended up pleading "no contest" to a prostitution charge, since, according to the legal counsel, the cops' word would be believed over mine. I put the nightmarish experience of dealing with New York's "finest" behind me and never had run-ins with the law again.

Now, i am about to graduate from college with a major in Translation Studies. I would like to continue pursuing my studies in Japan. However, I am afraid I will be denied student visa by the Japanese embassy. Would they consider "no contest" the same as conviction? Do I have a better chance to get a visa if I opt to lie on my application?

Thank you.

[Deathblob]

... (he would be immediately ejected if he were to do so)... Thank you.

You also spelled "ejaculated" wrong.

[camusttedare]

Definition of EJECT
transitive verb
1
a : to throw out especially by physical force, authority, or influence <ejected the player from the game> b : to evict from property
2
: to throw out or off from within <ejects the empty cartridges>

[camusttedare]

You cannot "ejaculate" someone. It's not a transitive verb-so, really, your insult is just dumb.

[KansaiBen]

Now, i am about to graduate from college with a major in Translation Studies. I would like to continue pursuing my studies in Japan. However, I am afraid I will be denied student visa by the Japanese embassy. Would they consider "no contest" the same as conviction? Do I have a better chance to get a visa if I opt to lie on my application?

Thank you.

You will be denied a visa if:

you have a drug conviction.

Convicted of a crime which results in a prison term of six months or more.

You are involved with organised crime.

If you have no conviction i.e it was dismissed without charge you will probably be OK.

What they dont know doesnt hurt them, if they ask if you have a criminal conviction, say no. There is also no way for Japanese immigration to check if you have a criminal record or not.

[camusttedare]

Dear Kansaiben,

Thank you very much for the answer!

[camusttedare]

I forgot to mention that the ultimate outcome of the case was Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal.

[KansaiBen]

I forgot to mention that the ultimate outcome of the case was Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal.

Which is a fancy way of saying your lawyers did a fancy plea bargain with the police/prosecutors and the charges will be dropped. probably because a first offence such as this would torpedo your career after graduation. If there is a clear case of entrapment or police lying to try and set you up the judge will probably drop the charges against you.

[camusttedare]

Which is a fancy way of saying your lawyers did a fancy plea bargain with the police/prosecutors and the charges will be dropped. probably because a first offence such as this would torpedo your career after graduation. If there is a clear case of entrapment or police lying to try and set you up the judge will probably drop the charges against you.

This was years ago. I now wish I had argued my case before the judge because the cops flat out LIED. However, at that time, I was a just a scared and tired college Freshman without any experience in dealing with the law; I was advised to plead "no contest" to the charges by a public attorney and simply did as I was told.

[KansaiBen]

This was years ago. I now wish I had argued my case before the judge because the cops flat out LIED. However, at that time, I was a just a scared and tired college Freshman without any experience in dealing with the law; I was advised to plead "no contest" to the charges by a public attorney and simply did as I was told.

Unless you want to spend a lot of money on lawyers and arguing it in court you are probably better off listening to your counsel and cutting your losses. thats what you pay them for after all.

Maybe I watch too much Law and Order but you are employing your lawyer to act in your best interests. Probably pays not to second-guess or Monday morning quarterback him/her in times like this.

There is such a thing as crooked and dishonest cops after an arrest, and they are only human too, believe it or not.

[Effected After]

KB - you do realize the girl is talking about this in the past tense, in her words, 'many years ago', right? You keep phrasing this as if it's a current situation she is facing.

[Effected After]

Maybe I watch too much Law and Order but you are employing your lawyer to act in your best interests. Probably pays not to second-guess or Monday morning quarterback him/her in times like this.

Free defense attorneys are generally new, with huge caseloads that they have to cover. Their advice is often the advice that will clear the case quickest for them, not necessarily in their client's best interests.

[camusttedare]

KB - you do realize the girl is talking about this in the past tense, in her words, 'many years ago', right? You keep phrasing this as if it's a current situation she is facing.

Yes, I was also a bit puzzled by this.

EA, do you think I should worry about being denied a student visa?

Thank you.

[Effected After]

I have no clue - I don't know much about them. But in your position, I'd apply and lie, and see what happens. Worst case scenario, they say no. It's not like you are going to get arrested again.

Edit: for the incident in question.

[KansaiBen]

Free defense attorneys are generally new, with huge caseloads that they have to cover. Their advice is often the advice that will clear the case quickest for them, not necessarily in their client's best interests.

As she was a broke student she can't afford her own lawyer at $200 an hour, she really doesn't have a lot of choice in the matter on how she gets defended. If you dont like it, you can always fire the lawyer and ask to defend yourself.

[apeman]

I call troll post. The NYPD does not waste its time even raiding sex clubs where actual sex occurs, let alone "real deal" places where the only thing going on is a little S & M.

[Effected After]

I just got KansaiBenned.

[Deathblob]

As she was a broke student she can't afford her own lawyer at $200 an hour, she really doesn't have a lot of choice in the matter on how she gets defended. If you dont like it, you can always fire the lawyer and ask to defend yourself.

Well, with all the money from the prostitution, you'd think she could have afforded a better lawyer.

[KansaiBen]

Well, with all the money from the prostitution, you'd think she could have afforded a better lawyer.

It was an S&M club not a brothel. Not only that its the pimps that make all the money not the girls who turn tricks.

[camusttedare]

I call troll post. The NYPD does not waste its time even raiding sex clubs where actual sex occurs, let alone "real deal" places where the only thing going on is a little S & M.

Wow, really? The NYPD wastes its money on all kinds of things, such as planting drugs on innocent people: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/ex-nypd-cop-we-planted-ev_n_1009754.html

And what exactly is "a little" S&M? Prior to my arrest, there was a serious injury in one of the other establishments in the Dungeon Districts; the client in question almost died (asphyxiation) and DA came under fire for allowing such S&M parlors to operate. However, as S&M is not illegal, cops had to claim it was actually a brothel. If you must know, I worked for a legendary dungeon that even has been a subject of a documentary. People who came to that place were absolutely not interested in "vanilla" sex--they would probably reject it if we offered.

[camusttedare]

It was an S&M club not a brothel. Not only that its the pimps that make all the money not the girls who turn tricks.

This commenter is a miserable troll. There is no point to reply.

Honestly, there is money to be made in S&M--but i wasn't trying. That was not my objective. First of all, I heavily screened my clients and worked only when I felt like it (in fact, i rejected the NYPD decoy); second of all, I did not bother to stay in touch with clients clients who had the potential to become regulars.

[KansaiBen]

This commenter is a miserable troll. There is no point to reply.

Honestly, there is money to be made in S&M--but i wasn't trying. That was not my objective. First of all, I heavily screened my clients and worked only when I felt like it (in fact, i rejected the NYPD decoy); second of all, I did not bother to stay in touch with clients clients who had the potential to become regulars.

People do the craziest stuff,Bernie Ecclestone, the owner of Formula One racing and one of the richest men in the UK was busted in an S&M scam with four prostitutes, they were dressed up in all the gear, Nazi uniforms etc whips and chains and he was tied up. Big news in the tabloids a few years ago. He admitted to it but said he had a right to do that stuff in private if he wanted to and the tabloids had invaded his privacy by reporting it. He got acquitted by the way.

There is no accounting for peoples kinky habits, as long as it's not paying for physical sex apparently.

[camusttedare]

People do the craziest stuff,Bernie Ecclestone, the owner of Formula One racing and one of the richest men in the UK was busted in an S&M scam with four prostitutes, they were dressed up in all the gear, Nazi uniforms etc whips and chains and he was tied up. Big news in the tabloids a few years ago. He admitted to it but said he had a right to do that stuff in private if he wanted to. He got acquitted by the way.

There is no accounting for peoples kinky habits, as long as its not paying for physical sex apparently.

Just to clarify--if there was no sex involved, the female participants of the scene are not called "prostitutes". They are called Dommes or Tops.

Certainly, there are absolutely no grounds to legally proscribe private behavior as long as it does not cause permanent injury to anyone. It's none of government's business.

[KansaiBen]

Just to clarify--if there was no sex involved, the female participants of the scene are not called "prostitutes". They are called Dommes or Tops.

Technically I can call up a call girl so she can listen to my problems and lend a sympathetic ear. I can pay her, dont have to have sex with her but technically she is still a prostitute by profession.

There may be call girls that will do S & M as part of their bag of tricks but as you say that doesnt mean all S&M women sell their bodies for money. Its no different than women in Harajuku dressing up as maids and anime characters to amuse their clients. The only difference is the moral approbation of society on what kind of behavior is socially acceptable or even legal.

[camusttedare]

Technically I can call up a call girl so she can listen to my problems and lend a sympathetic ear. I can pay her, dont have to have sex with her but technically she is still a prostitute by profession.

There may be call girls that will do S & M as part of their bag of tricks but as you say that doesnt mean all S&M women sell their bodies for money.

True, true.

[edin日本]

Just to clarify--if there was no sex involved, the female participants of the scene are not called "prostitutes". They are called Dommes or Tops.

Certainly, there are absolutely no grounds to legally proscribe private behavior as long as it does not cause permanent injury to anyone. It's none of government's business.

Bet to leave KB alone then, it's rumoured he likes to Top from the Bottom.

[KansaiBen]

Bet to leave KB alone then, it's rumoured he likes to Top from the Bottom.

You would be amazed what revs my engines, not that Im going to go into detail here.

[edin日本]

You would be amazed what revs my engines, not that Im going to go into detail here.

LOL

[Seattlegirl]

LOL

KB, there is a certain poster here who would probably love to hook up with you.

Have fun but no details, please.

[edin日本]

KB, there is a certain poster here who would probably love to hook up with you.

Have fun but no details, please.

I see you're getting out your leather catsuit and the trusty cat o' 9 tails.

[Seattlegirl]

I see you're getting out your leather catsuit and the trusty cat o' 9 tails.

Meow.

[camusttedare]

I'm pleased to see you guys are having fun with this. Would be nice to hear a few more opinions on my visa situation.

[KansaiBen]

I'm pleased to see you guys are having fun with this. Would be nice to hear a few more opinions on my visa situation.

At the end of the day thats all they are, opinions. We are not immigration, and have no say in who stays and who goes or what goes through the mind of an immigration official when issuing visas. In the end it comes down to dumb luck as to if they let you in the country or not.

[Shakes Spear]

I believe Kansai Ben had a similar incident at a Christchurch S & M (Shropshire and Merino) club.

In an attempt to spy on his wife, a young ewe from the South Island high country, Ben was mistaken for a john during a pre-dawn raid and spent two weeks in county lockup where he was "befriended" by a local Māori by the name of "Bubba".

[KansaiBen]

I believe Kansai Ben had a similar incident at a Christchurch S & M (Shropshire and Merino) club.

In an attempt to spy on his wife, a young ewe from the South Island high country, Ben was mistaken for a john during a pre-dawn raid and spent two weeks in county lockup where he was "befriended" by a local Māori by the name of "Bubba".

Agitator getting his jollies with his New Zealand girlfriend

[KansaiBen]

Shakespeare taking his date to the movies.

[KansaiBen]

New Zealand S& M club

[edin日本]

Meow.

I thought your butt was bigger

[camusttedare]

New Zealand S& M club

It's not for the sheepish.

[camusttedare]

At the end of the day thats all they are, opinions. We are not immigration, and have no say in who stays and who goes or what goes through the mind of an immigration official when issuing visas. In the end it comes down to dumb luck as to if they let you in the country or not.

Fair enough.

I really hope they will, in fact, let me in. Otherwise--there goes my entire life plan.