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    Default Does white privilege exist in Japan?

    For those unfamiliar with the idea, it states that straight white males have the highest social, sexual and economic privilege in the world from birth. Typically this is an American ideal espoused by left-leaning political idealists in America. Do you believe that is also the case in Japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    For those unfamiliar with the idea, it states that straight white males have the highest social, sexual and economic privilege in the world from birth. Typically this is an American ideal espoused by left-leaning political idealists in America. Do you believe that is also the case in Japan?
    You really ought to do a bit of research before making up a definition for a construct that has been around as long as this one. Wiki will do it for you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    straight white males have the highest social, sexual and economic privilege in the world from birth. Do you believe that is also the case in Japan?
    Do straight, white males have the highest social status in Japan? Have the most sex? Have the most money?

    Are you on drugs? (no stereotype attached)

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    OP, are you trolling for Ame.otoko? He should be around momentarily to troll you back, in a never-ending troll trolling troll trolling troll trollfest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trichophyton-in-my-pants View Post
    Do straight, white males have the highest social status in Japan? Have the most sex? Have the most money?

    Are you on drugs? (no stereotype attached)
    Yes, the ones that work at investment banks probably do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathblob View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    Yes, the ones that work at investment banks probably do.
    How about the arab, indian, asian and black guys who work in investment banking?

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    What I am referring to is the assertion made by non-white gaijins that white gaijin "have it easier" in terms of finding employment, sex, social connections and so forth

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    What I am referring to is the assertion made by non-white gaijins that white gaijin "have it easier" in terms of finding employment, sex, social connections and so forth
    I see – sorta like if I, as a white geazer, assert that young J-guys have it easier getting J-gals, jobs in Japan, etc.? Maybe I could call this Nihonjinron… Of course it wouldn’t be – since Nihonjinron is a whole ‘nuther topic – but I could of course call it that and make any asinine assumption and question out of it.

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    Yeah, I suppose what I am after is how common is this thinking? Heard a few Nigerian guys in Roppongi lamenting how easy it is for "whitey" to come in and get girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trichophyton-in-my-pants View Post
    How about the arab, indian, asian and black guys who work in investment banking?
    They work there as a cleaner or watermachine refresher.

    Not high status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    Yeah, I suppose what I am after is how common is this thinking? Heard a few Nigerian guys in Roppongi lamenting how easy it is for "whitey" to come in and get girls.
    Well, I do know that there is at least one person who thinks this might be true… Wooshhhhhh.

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    I'm no more or less black than President Obama

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    Not to my knowledge. An east-Asian person can at least fake being Japanese if they don't f*ck up their language use, but whites get laughed out the room so-to-speak before they get a chance to open their mouth.

    If we're talking privileged country-of-origin (for instance, Americans getting less 3rd degree at immigration than certain other places), then there might be a case. But not for being white, at least not here in the last 20 years.

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    How Chinese Communists saw it 60 years ago:

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    Before Communism in 1950:


    After Communism in c. 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    What I am referring to is the assertion made by non-white gaijins that white gaijin "have it easier" in terms of finding employment, sex, social connections and so forth
    30 or 40yrs ago that might have been true but these days $$$ talks and the poor walk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    For those unfamiliar with the idea, it states that straight white males have the highest social, sexual and economic privilege in the world from birth. Typically this is an American ideal espoused by left-leaning political idealists in America. Do you believe that is also the case in Japan?
    Yes, I`d say there still is an advantage to being White and from a Western country in Japan. How much of advantage these days I`m not too sure. However, being blond (at least when I had a bit more hair....) blue eyed and from the States certainly did work in my favor over the years be it with the ladies or finding a teaching job.
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    Oddly enough,I've found that Japanese men seem to dominate in Japan

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    Quote Originally Posted by outkast View Post
    Not to my knowledge. An east-Asian person can at least fake being Japanese if they don't f*ck up their language use, but whites get laughed out the room so-to-speak before they get a chance to open their mouth.
    I was talking about this with a Korean friend.
    She said that Japanese know that she is not a native. I asked how they would know.
    "Well, my name is not anything like a Japanese name."
    I had to laugh. "Babe, they know I am a foreigner from across the street!"
    ozzijp will quote this and tease it because he's got nothing else to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolgaijin View Post
    For those unfamiliar with the idea, it states that straight white males have the highest social, sexual and economic privilege in the world from birth. Typically this is an American ideal espoused by left-leaning political idealists in America. Do you believe that is also the case in Japan?
    That concept does not apply to Japan due to 'survivor bias'. Most western guys are indeed college-educated professionals of some kind while the only place I've seen Africans are embassy officials or on the streets of Roppongi chanting 'topless-bottomless'. Funnily enough, India is still a poor third-world country, but all indians I meet are either well-paid IT programmers or work in restaurants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttokyo View Post
    That concept does not apply to Japan due to 'survivor bias'. .
    You're going to have to give us more than that, TT!!!!!!!!!!

    A short and succinct explanation would be fine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken44 View Post
    Yes, I`d say there still is an advantage to being White and from a Western country in Japan. How much of advantage these days I`m not too sure. However, being blond (at least when I had a bit more hair....) blue eyed and from the States certainly did work in my favor over the years be it with the ladies or finding a teaching job.
    Does this apply if I shave my head? I am about 187cm, blonde and from murika originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttokyo View Post
    Funnily enough, India is still a poor third-world country, but all indians I meet are either well-paid IT programmers or work in restaurants.
    And they all cheat on their taxes and get away with it!
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    As a non-white male, I would believe so, unfortunately. I get the impression they have it easiest out of all gaijin in Japan.
    But you'll likely see few, if any, brag about it lest they look haughty and arrogant. If my racial group was the most admired in Japan, I'd also want to act modest and say kindly that other races can have it great there too, with enough
    "dedication and hard work", sweet, encouraging words like that to give others hope!

    There was a story recently that China only prefers to hire white people to teach English there, as they are thought as the only group best suited to speak and teach it in return where they are admired and exotic.

    As whites lament of losing numbers and status in their own home countries to foreign immigrants, it feels like they can at least still find some refuge in East Asia.

    Quote Originally Posted by edin日本 View Post
    And they all cheat on their taxes and get away with it!
    Oh, I guess if ALL of them do it, I'm one of the "bad" Indians then. Sorry to disappoint my countrymen. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by ttokyo View Post
    Funnily enough, India is still a poor third-world country, but all indians I meet are either well-paid IT programmers or work in restaurants.
    What do you expect? Only the "strongest and best" of us Indians are able to make it out of their homeland and immigrate abroad. Not just anyone can make it. The same goes for Chinese and others as well. I've heard of many of my fellow Indians residing in Kobe for decades now and they are an extremely affluent community. I was internet friends with a girl who has been born and raised there her entire life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nerdydesi View Post
    I was internet friends with a girl who has been born and raised there her entire life.
    The Indian community in Kobe goes back quite a long way. Many were involved in the pearl business.

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