Illegal house party / law

[wernst]

If one were to throw an illegal houseparty and the keystones shut it down and arrest the organizer. Would he only be fined or facing jailtime?
What is the law on illegal parties?

[KansaiBen]

If one were to throw an illegal houseparty and the keystones shut it down and arrest the organizer. Would he only be fined or facing jailtime?
What is the law on illegal parties?

what exactly do you mean by illegal? Landlord doesnt give you permission?

Biggest problem will be one of noise or disturbing the neighbors or serving alcohol to minors. If anyone drinks and gets into a car to drive then the person who serves alcohol becomes personally liable.

[wernst]

what exactly do you mean by illegal? Landlord doesnt give you permission?

Biggest problem will be one of noise or disturbing the neighbors or serving alcohol to minors. If anyone drinks and gets into a car to drive then the person who serves alcohol becomes personally liable.

illegal as in no permission to use loud music or maybe illegal entry? (using an abandoned building or some abandoned warehouse )

Of course no minors allowed. Full ID check. Peoples own responsibility for driving I assumed. Are clubs responsible if a clubber drinks, drives and gets an accident?

[KansaiBen]

illegal as in no permission to use loud music or maybe illegal entry? (using an abandoned building or some abandoned warehouse )

there are noise restrictions after 10 or 11pm. If neighbors complain to the police then they have to act. If you are trespassing on private property then of course you will be arrested.

Are clubs responsible if a clubber drinks, drives and gets an accident?

The person who supplies alcohol to a minor or a person who drives a car while legally intoxicated faces a 500,000 yen fine and possible prison time. If you get into a car with an intoxicated driver the passengers will also be fined 500,000 yen as well as the driver who will probably lose his licence. The laws are very strict here on DUI. Do not mess with the cops on this issue as you will LOSE. Three years ago a drunk driver ran into the back of an SUV pushed it off a bridge and 3 young children died. They will show no mercy.

If you are a drunk driver no insurance company will go near you with a barge pole and you become personally liable for compensating anybody you hit or their families. We are talking tens of millions of yen here.

[wernst]

there are noise restrictions after 10 or 11pm. If neighbors complain to the police then they have to act. If you are trespassing on private property then of course you will be arrested.

I think the place will be pretty desolate so no neighbors to complain. What if its public property? for example a tunnel. or under the railtracks in Juso? (granted people living nearby)

The person who supplies alcohol to a minor or a person who drives a car while legally intoxicated faces a 500,000 yen fine and possible prison time. If you get into a car with an intoxicated driver the passengers will also be fined 500,000 yen as well as the driver who will probably lose his licence. The laws are very strict here on DUI. Do not mess with the cops on this issue as you will LOSE. Three years ago a drunk driver ran into the back of an SUV pushed it off a bridge and 3 young children died. They will show no mercy.

If you are a drunk driver no insurance company will go near you with a barge pole and you become personally liable for compensating anybody you hit or their families. We are talking tens of millions of yen here.

Oh I dont question how strict the law is, and I never want to mess with cops about drunk driving.
Are you talking about that incident on the bridge in Arashiyama?

HOW can clubs be liable when they cant possibly know if the clubber comes by car or not?

[KansaiBen]

I think the place will be pretty desolate so no neighbors to complain. What if its public property? for example a tunnel. or under the railtracks in Juso? (granted people living nearby)

Public property like a park is probably OK as long as you don't block cars or pedestrians. If police tell you to move or turn the music down then thats what you will have to do. Failure to do so means you are obstructing police in the execution of his duties.

The accident Im thinking of happened in Fu-kuoka.

HOW can clubs be liable when they cant possibly know if the clubber comes by car or not?

If someone is caught drink-driving the police will want to know where he was drinking and how he/she obtained alcohol. All fingers will point to you. If they are not driving a car, then it wont be a problem. The law also recently changed and even riding a bicycle intoxicated can get you into trouble if you are a danger to other people.

It is against the law to serve alcohol to some one who is driving.

I think there is also a service where a company will send someone to drive your car home if you have been drinking.

My advice would be to tell people to leave their cars at home, or have a shuttle bus service to ferry people to the site if its far from a train or bus station.

[hml]

A secluded place sounds good. It's hard to say how far the sound will travel without knowing the power you'll put into it, the distance to neighbors and how the terrain is laid out to block / distort / refract the sound.

It may be worth asking the po-po specifically about location and time.

As for alcohol, make it BYOB. Then fingers can point back to each person. But be smart and have designated drivers. It would suck to have to "remember what happened last time" at the next party if there was any kind of incident or accident.

Be sure to clean up.

[KansaiBen]

If one were to throw an illegal houseparty and the keystones shut it down and arrest the organizer. Would he only be fined or facing jailtime?
What is the law on illegal parties?

Im thinking if you are near Juso probably the best place is on a river bank say the Yodogawa river or that one that runs near Hanshin/Hankyu Ashiya station. Yodogawa there are usually no houses nearby and you can have BBQs etc.

[wernst]

Im thinking if you are near Juso probably the best place is on a river bank say the Yodogawa river or that one that runs near Hanshin/Hankyu Ashiya station. Yodogawa there are usually no houses nearby and you can have BBQs etc.

Ashiya? ok will check it out thanks.

[ttokyo]

If one were to throw an illegal houseparty and the keystones shut it down and arrest the organizer. Would he only be fined or facing jailtime?
What is the law on illegal parties?

I see two possibilites here :

a) This party is a really a 'public' and 'for profit' event, with e.g. entrance fee, hired DJ, etc. Then it would probably violate several laws.
b) This party is a 'private' event for friends. You're basically allowed to use your place as you want as long as you don't disturb the neighbors or commit any other crimes. A fine or even jailtime is rather unlikely unless serious problems occur. They would have to ask repeatedly first, e.g. 'to turn the music down' but not arrest people on the spot. But even if a drunk guest smashes the neighbor's windows or has a car accident due to drunk driving it is mainly the offender's problem.