Need some martial arts advice!

[highvoltage]

Scrap the traditional stuff and go straight for K1.

No repression there, just 30 seconds of grappling followed by an interminable dry hump.

Plus you get to do it with muscular HIV positive steroid addled drug addicts in stretchy girly boxer shorts.

Yum.

Thanks Kuro - I will try it. As an added bonus I'm sure there will be some lycra-cladded semi naked muscle man waiting to clamp onto me shouting "I OWN you BIYAtCH".

A bit like prison then really... except you pay a monthly fee...

[銕銕銕]

Thanks Kuro - I will try it. As an added bonus I'm sure there will be some lycra-cladded semi naked muscle man waiting to clamp onto me shouting "I OWN you BIYAtCH".

A bit like prison then really... except you pay a monthly fee...

I heard in prison you pay daily, at shower time.

Diva might know more about this.

[highvoltage]

I heard in prison you pay daily, at shower time.

Diva might know more about this.

I await comment, Diva

[leer0y]

Ive just moved to tokyo and im interested in learning a martial art. I thought it would be ok to resurrect this thread as its essentially the same subject.

What im looking for is this; i like training at the gym but i get bored quickly just doing reps with weights etc. i want to learn a martial art that will teach techniques about punching and kicking and im interested in learning about rolling around on the floor. Im interested in learning how to punch, kick with power and technique and if possible, develop strength too.

Id like to spar too but coz i dont know anything yet i want to do something thats pretty low contact at first.

Basically i want to go somewhere where i can stay fit and make friends but learn about punching and kicking from someone thats not a mentalist and somewhere where i wont get beat up by nutters.

Im thinking about mma, but if someone else can recommend something please let me know.

thanks

[JayJay]

Ive just moved to tokyo and im interested in learning a martial art. I thought it would be ok to resurrect this thread as its essentially the same subject.

What im looking for is this; i like training at the gym but i get bored quickly just doing reps with weights etc. i want to learn a martial art that will teach techniques about punching and kicking and im interested in learning about rolling around on the floor. Im interested in learning how to punch, kick with power and technique and if possible, develop strength too.

Id like to spar too but coz i dont know anything yet i want to do something thats pretty low contact at first.

Basically i want to go somewhere where i can stay fit and make friends but learn about punching and kicking from someone thats not a mentalist and somewhere where i wont get beat up by nutters.

Im thinking about mma, but if someone else can recommend something please let me know.

thanks

Many arts will help with kicking and punching, Karate, Tae Kwon Do or Mauy Thai for example. However ground work and rolling is limited.

Rolling is more Judo or Aikido. I don't no much about it but Brazilian Ju-Jitsu seems interesting.

Shorinji Kempo does punching, kicking, locks, throws and rolling but the kicks are more like kung-fu (more speed than power) and it doesn't focus on strength or fitness all that much (just speed, technique and pressure points).

As for not training with nutters, best to drop in and view a training session and sus out the enviroment for yourself.

[Derukugi]

Im thinking about mma, but if someone else can recommend something please let me know.

Sounds like Daido Juku is for you, but that is not all that widespread.

Alternatively, maybe a combo? Kyokushin Karate for kicking and Judo for rolling around and sticking your nose in male sweat-drenched dogis.
That would certainly keep you in shape.

[leer0y]

Thats great info thanks!

Now to my next question... ive had really low fortune finding out about gyms and dojos on the net for some reason. maybe im not using the right keywords or something.

Can someone point me in the right direction? (either with links or gym/dojo names) Im interested in all the suggestions that have been made so far. A website with a list of places and whats practiced would be perfect but i'll be buggered if i can find one. I'm living near shimokita so im pretty central in Tokyo.

Also i should mention that i'd like to get lessons (pref. in english) and then be able to practice on bags or with others. also i want to go by myself to practice in my own time (or train somewhere where experienced people give hints to goons like me training at the next station) and somewhere will sane people is of great importance. It would be good to go somehwere that i can meet others too, as ive just moved to Tokyo.

[Derukugi]

Daido Juku headquarters is in Ikebukuro:
http://www.daidojuku.com/eng/index.htm

I don`t think there is a centralized list of dojos and what they do; especially not in English. You can thumb through the yellow pages and see what comes up.

But really, if you want a) instruction in English and b) free time to punch bags and practise, you really narrow down your choices a lot. (To zero, perhaps?)

Maybe befriending some GIs and finding a Western style gym on a base is a better option for you.

[leer0y]

Has anyone ever heard of or been to this gym?

http://metropolis.co.jp/tokyo/recent/body_and_soul.asp

For a beginner like me, who wants to try a variety of martial arts disciplines (punching, kicking, and groping about on the floor) it seems quite good.

Let me know if its sh!t or good, i'm gonna take a look sometime soon.

[pacific_traders]

The Genbukan Ninpo and Kokusai Jujutsu Hombu Dojo is located in Saitama. Look into it if you're interested. It's difficult training, very traditional, but lots of payoff in the long-haul.

[UltimateGaijin]

daido juku.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01_kQd8pOus

kyokushin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0pMyMnXDkQ

shotokan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQ2KS3qoLs

[Derukugi]

That`s a pretty cautious Shotokan kumite you selected there, Mister ultimate Gaijin.

Shotokan can be a lot more energetic, for example like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5___D5b6Zw

[Nanbanjin]

daido juku.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01_kQd8pOus

kyokushin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0pMyMnXDkQ

shotokan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQ2KS3qoLs

The Japanese guy Tanaka in the Shotokan clip was the all Japan Champ and World Champ several times during the seventies.

I had him over for dinner at my parents' place in Sydney when I was a kid.

[UltimateGaijin]

That`s a pretty cautious Shotokan kumite you selected there, Mister ultimate Gaijin.

Shotokan can be a lot more energetic, for example like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5___D5b6Zw

its been taken down

[MasOyama]

That's pretty bad ___. I'd never heard of it before.
Anybody here do it?

[UltimateGaijin]

i might be joining

[emanyueru]

if the op wants something with standup and groundwork, that builds good physique there's really only mma to go for. considering the level of mma training available in tokyo it would be stupid not to do it.
judo is out of question because it doesnt have striking, karate and tkd are quite pointless since they develop bad habits and don't contain any grappling (dont give me any ____ about the wristlock u show for ur grading is grappling, it isnt)

i got good recommendations for yuki nakais gym, dont remember the url. check www.deepgym.com and www.shibukichi.com as well.

Training instruction is straight forward enough for you to understand without being a japanese speaker and you will probably pick up some japanese along the way.

Piece of advice, be very humble and don't try to show off as a beginner. Listen and show respect and noone will be giving you a hard time. If you show up in a gym with professional fighters with a bad attitude, well suit yourself.

[UltimateGaijin]

if the op wants something with standup and groundwork, that builds good physique there's really only mma to go for. considering the level of mma training available in tokyo it would be stupid not to do it.
judo is out of question because it doesnt have striking, karate and tkd are quite pointless since they develop bad habits and don't contain any grappling (dont give me any ____ about the wristlock u show for ur grading is grappling, it isnt)

i got good recommendations for yuki nakais gym, dont remember the url. check www.deepgym.com and www.shibukichi.com as well.

Training instruction is straight forward enough for you to understand without being a japanese speaker and you will probably pick up some japanese along the way.

Piece of advice, be very humble and don't try to show off as a beginner. Listen and show respect and noone will be giving you a hard time. If you show up in a gym with professional fighters with a bad attitude, well suit yourself.

karate is a generic term., wot u wrote is like saying "food is bad for you"

[Derukugi]

judo is out of question because it doesnt have striking, karate and tkd are quite pointless since they develop bad habits

Wow, a man of firm opinions! Want to take that up with Hidehiko Yoshida or Nicholas Pettas that Judo and Karate are "out of the question" and "pointless"?

Groan...

[emanyueru]

karate is a generic term., wot u wrote is like saying "food is bad for you"

No it's not. If you want to do stand up and grappling mixed karate doesnt offer that. Karate is a striking art. I know there's heaps of Karate styles, but they're all striking arts. You cant compare it with MMA neither.

[emanyueru]

Wow, a man of firm opinions! Want to take that up with Hidehiko Yoshida or Nicholas Pettas that Judo and Karate are "out of the question" and "pointless"?

Groan...

Haha here we go. I do judo myself and it has some pretty good sides to it apart from the extremely rigid rule system that takes a lot of the fun stuff away (newaza, shoulder locks, leg locks etc). But it doesnt involve striking as well, that's why it's out of the question for the op.
All these guys have trained for the event they're participating in and we're talking about two great fighters here who started doing what they did long before MMA was around in it's present form. Nicholas Pettas I can promise you, has done a lot of Muay Thai to complement his Kyuokushin (since it's very different with gloves and strikes to the face allowed), Yoshida is an olympic level judoka and a great grappler, but nothing spectacular as an MMA fighter. His judo however, is exceptional.
If you want to train something mixing standup and grappling in a coherent way it's a lot more logical to do MMA straight off than starting in another art. If you want to become good at MMA you train MMA, if you want to become good at Judo you do that (no doubt it can benefit your MMA game but it doesn't transfer directly to MMA style grappling).
Since the poster wanted a mix between striking and rolling i thought the choice was obvious. If he listed different preferences i wouldn't necessarily have answered MMA though. Does this make it more clear?

[Derukugi]

Well, what do you know!
emanyueru is on Youtube, practising his MMA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydsQLITwi7E

[emanyueru]

Well, what do you know!
emanyueru is on Youtube, practising his MMA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydsQLITwi7E

You can do better than that

[Aliencoins]

Taryn Loveman runs the El Sol MMA dojo in Mitaka.
Map and contact: http://elsolmma.com/contact_en.htm
About Taryn Loveman: http://elsolmma.com/Instructorinfo_en.htm

[UltimateGaijin]

No it's not. If you want to do stand up and grappling mixed karate doesnt offer that. Karate is a striking art. I know there's heaps of Karate styles, but they're all striking arts. You cant compare it with MMA neither.

learn English moron. you arent even understanding wote u write.

when speaking in English about MA, "bad Habits" mean doing things you shouldnt, like dropping hands, sticking chin out, being flat footed

[emanyueru]

learn English moron. you arent even understanding wote u write.

when speaking in English about MA, "bad Habits" mean doing things you shouldnt, like dropping hands, sticking chin out, being flat footed

I'm not a native English speaker so I guess you'll have to have patience with me making small grammatical errors from time to time, make sure to check your own spelling while you do so though. You can put a comma after "mixed" and see if it starts to make more sense?

I know what bad habits mean, i haven't disagreed on that point. What the ____ are you talking about? Your post makes no sense whatsoever in this context.

[UltimateGaijin]

I'm not a native English speaker so I guess you'll have to have patience with me making small grammatical errors from time to time, make sure to check your own spelling while you do so though. You can put a comma after "mixed" and see if it starts to make more sense?

I know what bad habits mean, i haven't disagreed on that point. What the ____ are you talking about? Your post makes no sense whatsoever in this context.

im talkin about this crap post. i was expalining to you what "bad habbits" meant, and that karate is a generic term, and give you another explanation. your response to my post about "bad Habbits" had nothing to do with that. If you post a reply, stay on topic.
u r mixing two points. Bad habbits and lack of cross training.


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Originally Posted by UltimateGaijin
karate is a generic term., wot u wrote is like saying "food is bad for you"

No it's not. If you want to do stand up and grappling mixed karate doesnt offer that. Karate is a striking art. I know there's heaps of Karate styles, but they're all striking arts. You cant compare it with MMA neither."

[nickels]

The only ones in this thread not at least partially retarded are JBS3009 and the op.

[JBS3009]

The only ones in this thread not at least partially retarded are JBS3009 and the op.

Thanks, that means a lot

[Shiver]

Hi everyone. I have two questions: 1) What do you think is a nice martial art to learn while in Japan? and 2) Where can I find dojo and lessons? I was thinking of taking aikido--does anyone know anything about this martial art. I am living in Saitama now and work in Tokyo.

Thanks.

kyokoshin karate and Judo are the best Japanese martial arts however, I recommend you take up Muay Thai as It's overall effectiveness is greater than the other two and as far as think are some good gyms dotted around.

I can't wait to get to Japan so I can go to a live K-1 max event. ooooh I'm getting goose bumps just thinking about it.

rip PRIDE

[Aliencoins]

If you are interested in finding a Ki Society aikido dojo, visit:
http://kiaikidojapan.blogspot.com/

[ziggie]

for you will be to find (a) qualified instructors.

you should research and find the Headquarters, for instance for Aikido or Karate or Judo or Kendo, - a truly japanese martial art sounds a good idea - check out where are their headquarters, and then go and see for yourself if you like what you see, the best in any case would be to train at headquarters if you can, you will have the top class instructors and training, otherwise go to a dojo they recognize, where you can acquire solid basics for a start.

by searching the web you will find easily all the headquarters locations. You will find for all morning and afternoon/evening classes.

for shotokan karate you can check the JKA site

http://www.jka.or.jp/english/about/europe.html

What is the best martial for you will depend on you, but all martial arts are physically demanding (and mentally challenging). Definitely go for a japanese martial art with japanese instructors.

PS: Those native english speakers are not very tolerant or kind to non native speakers.