Attack on Iran

[Jon84]

Um, think it was

God You're Dumb

as opposed to

God, you're dumb.

Ah!

My grammar sucks.

[Jon84]

Calm down. He was being a grammar nazi and my absence of a comma implied my statement was claiming that God was dumb.

What's happened to this site?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I get it, I made a grammatical mistake, and I am crying over the Grammar nazi etc etc. I feel we should leave such situations behind us now, don't you think?

No one is having a panic attack, so don't get worked up.

[Jon84]

'Tribal thing', what happened to you Ed?

Yeah, I have been wondering the same. We seem to have fallen out and he wished me dead I think.

[Pkl]

"Democrats Spines Can be found in the Elephant shaped graves of the Republicans."


Not trying to be a grammar nazi myself, but it does make me cringe when I see the incorrect use of the Anglo-Saxon genitive.

Shouldn't that be 'Democrat's Spines' (singular concept of a collective noun) or Democrats' Spines (plural concept of a collective noun) in your little sentence at the bottom of your posts?

C'mon, Skip. You're above hassling none-native speakers about grammar.

[Pkl]

I didn't know..... He writes good English for a NON-NATIVE speaker.

What's your excuse?

I don't need one, my stupidity speaks for itself.

[hemmingway]

Calm down. He was being a grammar nazi and my absence of a comma implied my statement was claiming that God was dumb.

Not quite.

Without a comma, the sentence was just ungrammatical. With the comma, there can be two interpretations:

One being that God is dumb, as in "Scipio III, you're dumb." However, that would imply that you were directly addressing that person as God.

The other being that the word God is being used as an exclamative as in "Feck, you're dumb."

[edin日本]

The Israelis may look good against the Arabs, who are good at eating, fecking and blowing themselves up, but the Farsis are a different kettle of fish.

'Tribal thing', what happened to you Ed?

Well, I'd call it that as the Farsi and the Wahib Bedouins have been at each others throats for centuries. The former is a proper ethnic grouping but the Sauds are indeed just one of the many tribes that make up the muddle that are the Arabs.

[edin日本]

How's the 'Canadian tribe' doing these days? They look like they're having a few integration problems with the recently arrived 'Chinese tribe' along the west coast cities?

Jeeeeeeeeessuuuuzz, I used to think you were quite clever, but a comparison of Farsis and Arabs is on par with a comparison of Japanese and Malay. They have, including religion, nothing in common.

They might look the same to you, but..................

Skippy,

Canadian tribe? Which one? The Nootka, Haida, Sarcee, Iroquois, Stoners, Geeks, Canucks, Oilers or Habitants? We have tribals everywhere you look in Greater Canuckistan and most of them have issues with the recently arrived Han, Bangla, Jhatti, Ashkenazi et al.

[Jon84]

"Democrats Spines Can be found in the Elephant shaped graves of the Republicans."


Not trying to be a grammar nazi myself, but it does make me cringe when I see the incorrect use of the Anglo-Saxon genitive.

Well, get over it. it's a quote. And yes, you are trying to be as benign as a grammar nazi and you want to show that.

But I forgive you.

Shouldn't that be 'Democrat's Spines' (singular concept of a collective noun) or Democrats' Spines (plural concept of a collective noun) in your little sentence at the bottom of your posts?

Yes. But i copied and pasted it from a blog.

I appreciate you trying to patronize me, i really do. But to show that there is no hard feelings, I will inform the girl who wrote the blog, ok?

Now stop being a minge and enjoy this thread.

[Jon84]

I don't need one, my stupidity speaks for itself.

Yeah.


But, English is my first language. Is this by any chance linked to any of our views on Iran?
Please don7t assume I am Arab just because my views don't contain desires to wipe all the Arabs in Iran.


The others,

This is just a question. If we want there to be the deaths of many civilians for our own safety, including the deaths of women and children. Don't we consider them less human and more dispensible than us?

If we long for the invasion without thinking how many would die, how many would suffer, how many innocent people will be abused by Iranian extremists and Occupants, and suddenly a bomb fulls on us and kills our wife and children, ripping their skins from their faces and collapsing their skulls, then would we have reaped what we sow? Would we deserve it as much as the Arabs or any victims of war??

I am concerned about the good soldiers who waste their lives for a greedy society and kill for nothing more than someone elses desire for control.
I concern over those who are not bitter and resentful and lazy who will see nasty things, realize intense pain and suffering and the side they are on. Also, the civilians, whatever race, who will suffer and get killed and raped by a group of merciless soldiers.

I saw a soldier holding a dead "arab" baby in his arms, and his face was white, his uniform was black- red. There was a whirlwind of involuntary confusion in my head and a lot of non sensual whispers coming from them.

Of course, the guy is dead now, so neither won anything, but ones name will be read out and will be mourned.

I am not judging, I just want your views on this.

[Jon84]

Skippy,

Canadian tribe? Which one? The Nootka, Haida, Sarcee, Iroquois, Stoners, Geeks, Canucks, Oilers or Habitants? We have tribals everywhere you look in Greater Canuckistan and most of them have issues with the recently arrived Han, Bangla, Jhatti, Ashkenazi et al.

Like in Australia, America, etc the trends are similar and typical. Natives are less represented and have had pretty much everything that did represent them taken away. Now, they have to be grateful. If they still lament the government for whatever reason, majorities usually tell them to get over it and be grateful.

Also, of course minorities are going to have issues, they government isn't actually going to prevent them or deal with them properly.

People will stand back and say; well these groups are just being primative and childish.

It is exactly the excuse we use on the Arabs. It is in order to blame all conflicts and unwarranted, primative aggressions on them, just so we feel less bad for things we do.

I am not taking sides, nor campaigning for them, but just saying how things are. I just study it.

Also, such excuses of minorities at each others throat is why people, even descent self claimed none bigots who have a variety of western friends of different race, turn a blind eye on both sides of the situation in the middle east. They become biased because it is socially ok to do so.

In our defence; we are desensitised because we are or have not been there (well, I have). We have been told by the all knowing media that all Arabs are terrorists, so it is ok to assume such things, it ain't our fault right?
We only know about the pain they have caused and the pure, great westerners they have taken from us.
We have been told that they are lunatics and that if they become advanced they will nuke us and invade us and the little horrible kids will cheer.

So, I guess it is understandable why we make excuses, why we hate, why we would feel satisfaction from killing as much Arabs, women and children. Why we think that killing these subhumans is the right things to do because we have morals and they don't. Our government is pure and good and has been for thousands of years. We are good, fair people right? Doing the right thing, with our advanced, pure minds. We listen to our law, we do what the government says, we have never commited a crime like those arab dogs, right? Right!

Watch the vid I posted, it will give you a better insight into this topic and how biased it is because it is packed with westerners, few who have been to the middle east.

This is avers or unconscious prejudice. Not judging, just saying.

Some of you guys though, have made some good posts here.

[Jacque_S]

It is exactly the excuse we use on the Arabs. It is in order to blame all conflicts and unwarranted, primative aggressions on them, just so we feel less bad for things we do.

I am not taking sides, nor campaigning for them, but just saying how things are. I just study it.

Not taking sides? What a joke...everything you've posted on this thread has been apologia for islamic imperialism, whether it be ObL's arid, constipated variety or the very overt one of the Iranian mullahs. Answer these questions: why should the mullahs in Tehran care who controls Jerusalem, considering Persia/Iran has never controlled the area? Why should the mullahs be supporting groups in Lebanon, populated by people who have no historic, ethnic, linguistic, or cultural connection to them?

[tora916]

Cheney and Bush are no better than OBL or Abadabadoo or whatever his name is. One man's Imperialism is another man's "spreadin' the word of democracy or the word of Allah. Pretty much BS however you cut it.

[lyzard]

God you're dumb.

Go tell that to the Lebanese. Go tell that to the Shia families in southern Lebanon. Go tell that to the families of the victims in the Sabra and Shatila massacres in 1982 just outside Beruit. The aftermath which I saw at first hand.

Normally I stay of this site but you have made the most ignorant and dumbest comment I have ever read on GP. Congatulations.

Ah, yeahh, sure, I'll do as you suggested, although I'm wondering, is not telling that to the Shia families in southern Lebanon the same as telling it to the Lebanese? Or, are you saying the Shia are not Lebanese? And if so, then why should I go tell them? And what will telling any of them do?

I also like that you "saw at first hand" the "aftermath"---right! Sure you were there! That is supposed to make your comments more believable because you "saw at first hand" the aftermath? To me--and this is only and opinion!! That is the most ignorant and dumbest comment I have ever read on GP--and for someone like you who "normally" "stay of[sic] this site"--it is interesting that you would use the word "most" to characterize my comment.

Anyway--let us assume, to patronize you, that Israel DID invade Lebanon--so what? And why did not the other Muslim countries help out? Or, were they shaking in their camel fur lined towel rags, and fearing the wrath of Israel? I am shedding a tear for the Lebanese right now, by the way.

[Pkl]

Yeah.


But, English is my first language. Is this by any chance linked to any of our views on Iran?
Please don7t assume I am Arab just because my views don't contain desires to wipe all the Arabs in Iran.

Actually, I assumed you were a non-native because I know what your last username was. We'll leave it there. I didn't mean to start a disagreement.

[edin日本]

Ah, yeahh, sure, I'll do as you suggested, although I'm wondering, is not telling that to the Shia families in southern Lebanon the same as telling it to the Lebanese? Or, are you saying the Shia are not Lebanese? And if so, then why should I go tell them? And what will telling any of them do?

I also like that you "saw at first hand" the "aftermath"---right! Sure you were there! That is supposed to make your comments more believable because you "saw at first hand" the aftermath? To me--and this is only and opinion!! That is the most ignorant and dumbest comment I have ever read on GP--and for someone like you who "normally" "stay of[sic] this site"--it is interesting that you would use the word "most" to characterize my comment.

Anyway--let us assume, to patronize you, that Israel DID invade Lebanon--so what? And why did not the other Muslim countries help out? Or, were they shaking in their camel fur lined towel rags, and fearing the wrath of Israel? I am shedding a tear for the Lebanese right now, by the way.

When Isreal invaded Lebanon it was for the express purpose of securing their border and putting down the Palestinian incursions into Israeli territory. Once they were mired in Lebanon they began backing the Christians with the express purpose of setting up a puppet government.

At that time Lebanon was in the midst of a civil war that was brought on by religious strife aided and abetted by the Syrians, the Iraqis and the Iranians through their various proxies. Israel, of course had to jump on that bandwagon which only made things worse.

Presently, Lebanon has settled down and is rebuilding their infrastructure but, this was only acheived after they became puppets of Syria.

[Jacque_S]

Presently, Lebanon has settled down and is rebuilding their infrastructure but, this was only acheived after they became puppets of Syria.

Correction. Progress on this front has only come as the Lebanese have pushed back against the Syrian fascists. Little Boy Assad and co will get theirs one day. It'll be a blood Baath, and to the extent that it'll be Baath blood it's something to look forward to.

[tora916]

Well if you're not an apologist for the Arabs and the Iranians then you're an apologist for the Israelis. In any case you're an apologist for a theocracy. Man I can just see Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson tossing their last meal in their graves.

[hemmingway]

why should the mullahs in Tehran care who controls Jerusalem, considering Persia/Iran has never controlled the area? Why should the mullahs be supporting groups in Lebanon, populated by people who have no historic, ethnic, linguistic, or cultural connection to them?

Their reasons are perhaps not unsimilar to the concern and support for various groups which the US has shown in such places as Israel, Latin America and South East Asia.

[Jacque_S]

Their reasons are perhaps not unsimilar to the concern and support for various groups which the US has shown in such places as Israel, Latin America and South East Asia.

What reason is that?

[hemmingway]

What reason is that?

Geopolitical interests.

[edin日本]

Correction. Progress on this front has only come as the Lebanese have pushed back against the Syrian fascists. Little Boy Assad and co will get theirs one day. It'll be a blood Baath, and to the extent that it'll be Baath blood it's something to look forward to.

Being that as it may be, the situation as it stands in the ME is that there are two countries, Syria and Iran who have designs on uniting their neighbours under one flag. The iranians dream of recreating the Persian Empire as it was at the time of Darius and the Syrians would like to unify the ME, Turkey and all the stans under one flag.

Ahhh, for the heady days of Empire Building!

[tora916]

Here's how Israel would destroy Iran's nuclear program

Israeli government ministers and Knesset members who will help make the decision about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities do not have to wait any longer for a preparatory briefing by the Israel Air Force.

They can read about all the possible scenarios for a strike on Iran, and about the potential risks and chances of success, in a study by Abdullah Toukan and Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

Never before has such an open, detailed and thorough study of Israel's offensive options been published. The authors of the 114-page study meticulously gathered all available data on Israel's military capabilities and its nuclear program, and on Iran's nuclear developments and aerial defenses, as well as both countries' missile inventory.
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After analyzing all the possibilities for an attack on Iran, Toukan and Cordesman conclude: "A military strike by Israel against Iranian nuclear facilities is possible ... [but] would be complex and high-risk and would lack any assurances that the overall mission will have a high success rate."

The first problem the authors point to is intelligence, or more precisely, the lack of it. "It is not known whether Iran has some secret facilities where it is conducting uranium enrichment," they write. If facilities unknown to Western intelligence agencies do exist, Iran's uranium-enrichment program could continue to develop in secret there, while Israel attacks the known sites - and the strike's gains would thus be lost. In general, the authors state, attacking Iran is justified only if it will put an end to Iran's nuclear program or halt it for several years. That objective is very difficult to attain.

Read article here:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085619.html

[Jon84]

Not taking sides? What a joke...everything you've posted on this thread has been apologia for islamic imperialism

No, you are programmed to think that in order to defend your one sidedness. It is easy for you to argue with someone on the opposite side.

We all know that A member on your opposite side flamed me for supporting Israel despite otherwise. I think you know that. I think you are pigeon holing me because my views don't fully support you. Isn't that right Jacque?

Everything I have posted has not been in support of Islam. That is a pathological exaggeration and it shows because I have not written of such support.

Why lie Jacque, why lie? You know lying is bad. What is wrong with your thinking. Why exaggerated, why lie? I am curious. Show me evidence that I support Islam and imperialism and that I have not flamed both your side and western islamic supporters (LN).

Do it. If you can't, you will confirm yourself as a patholigical, sick liar.

whether it be ObL's arid, constipated variety or the very overt one of the Iranian mullahs. Answer these questions: why should the mullahs in Tehran care who controls Jerusalem, considering Persia/Iran has never controlled the area? Why should the mullahs be supporting groups in Lebanon, populated by people who have no historic, ethnic, linguistic, or cultural connection to them?

Because such wars caused by israel, have given hardliners in Arab countries incentive, hatred and excuses to impose their extreme hardline policies.

Like i said, Iran's government sucks, so does Israels. but why should I agree with you hating all arabs? I don't hate all Jews. Why do groups care about Jerusalam? Why did the Israelis care about Jerusalem?

Actually, read up why they care about jerusalem. I think its all a dumb war and all I can see is Arabs trying to take back their homes in vain and hardline arabs using this as an opportunity to radicalize people.

Read up how Israel became Israel. Read up the wars in the middle east. Actually do your own research instead of referencing zionist or American sources which are biased.

The reason why Arab militants are reacting or offending is because Israel is imperializing. By stating that Arabs have lost their homes and continue to do so (I have seen it with my own eyes and you have not) doesn't mean I support them or campaign for them, jackie.

Forget about culture or history, this is about control and settlement and terrortory and power. Israel have nuclear weapons, the wars are due to resistance against imperialization, one which the Arabs are losing anyway.

If I was being one sided, I would be supporting the Iranian government, but I just show concerns for the "troops" and the native "civilians" like i stated.

Why didn't you read that part Jacque? because you wouldn7t have been able to accuse me of things you are accusing me of now.

WHy? I will only show you how you are a patholigical liar and do so because you need to pigeon hole me in order to counter someone who doesn7t fully agree with you.

You are weak, but I like that, it makes me feel clever.

[Jon84]

Here's how Israel would destroy Iran's nuclear program

Israeli government ministers and Knesset members who will help make the decision about whether to attack Iran's nuclear facilities do not have to wait any longer for a preparatory briefing by the Israel Air Force.

They can read about all the possible scenarios for a strike on Iran, and about the potential risks and chances of success, in a study by Abdullah Toukan and Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

Never before has such an open, detailed and thorough study of Israel's offensive options been published. The authors of the 114-page study meticulously gathered all available data on Israel's military capabilities and its nuclear program, and on Iran's nuclear developments and aerial defenses, as well as both countries' missile inventory.
Advertisement

After analyzing all the possibilities for an attack on Iran, Toukan and Cordesman conclude: "A military strike by Israel against Iranian nuclear facilities is possible ... [but] would be complex and high-risk and would lack any assurances that the overall mission will have a high success rate."

The first problem the authors point to is intelligence, or more precisely, the lack of it. "It is not known whether Iran has some secret facilities where it is conducting uranium enrichment," they write. If facilities unknown to Western intelligence agencies do exist, Iran's uranium-enrichment program could continue to develop in secret there, while Israel attacks the known sites - and the strike's gains would thus be lost. In general, the authors state, attacking Iran is justified only if it will put an end to Iran's nuclear program or halt it for several years. That objective is very difficult to attain.

Read article here:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085619.html

Yikes. So this guy thinks thinks that If Israel are making nuclear weapons it is OK to initiate an attack? Didn't Iran state that it is making nuclear ower for other uses? Shouldn't they wait until they find enough evidence to suggest that they are making nuclear weapons?

If they are, then Iran lied; Israel would have confirmed a lie and thus have justification since, if one lies about the use of nuclear power, then they have dangerous intentions.


If israel does have a good enough reason then the iranian government is at fault for lying and should explain themselves. Alos what is sinnister is the planning and sinario analysis israel had made.

By all means, if justified, destroy the Nuclear facilities (it isn't justified yet so really Israel shouldn't be talking about it or exaggerating). Then call the government to explain themselves and put them on trial. However, it would be unwize and imperialistic to appoint a western puppet as head of state.

If they invade iran, I could only see another Iraq and this time most people will be on the same side of the republicans when they support Iraqs invasion. civilians will continue to suffer and Arabs will continue to lose their homes.

Israel will gain influence in war torn Iran and thus why do we cry about bringing troops home from Iraq when they will be in Iran which will be like iraq?

What saddens me is, because who said they care about the troops, only care about their security.

BF said something along the lines of Those who trade freedom for security deserves neither. In other words, they deserve to suffer too and they are undeserving.

I can't support Iran because I don't know if they are going to use nuclear power for nuclear weapons. I can't support Israel because it has imperialized since it became established in the 40s and has caused wars since then and also has an itching desire to spread. It also has been influencing other allies.

[Jon84]

Well if you're not an apologist for the Arabs and the Iranians then you're an apologist for the Israelis. In any case you're an apologist for a theocracy. Man I can just see Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson tossing their last meal in their graves.

Jacques no patriot. Although he things he is.

I hate people who say they are patriots and admire BF because he was one of the founding fathers yet go against everything he had said, slowly destroying everything he made.

To me, these people are subhuman because they have given away their minds and their individuality and wisdom.

Excuse my words.

[azri]

well it's clear that neither iran nor israel are willing to bust a move on each other.

thank goodness for american patriotism. the US hasn't gotten a war right since world war 2.

[Jacque_S]

Being that as it may be, the situation as it stands in the ME is that there are two countries, Syria and Iran who have designs on uniting their neighbours under one flag. The iranians dream of recreating the Persian Empire as it was at the time of Darius and the Syrians would like to unify the ME, Turkey and all the stans under one flag.

Ahhh, for the heady days of Empire Building!

Perhaps the problem then isn't that the British were there in 1917, but that they weren't in 1867.

[Jon84]

well it's clear that neither iran nor israel are willing to bust a move on each other.

Israel is planning, but any wrong moves can cause an international outcry and make the UK govn't, the US gov't and the Israeli govn't very unpopular and other counties will use it their advantage and I don't just mean Arab countries.

Not everyone is in a fantasy coma, so planning will take longer than they hoped. Israel really wants to continue increasing territories.

thank goodness for american patriotism. the US hasn't gotten a war right since world war 2.

Thanks to US patriotism, the US government can do what they want, get influenced by whoever they want, and appoint who ever they want without people standing against them. They have theDemocrats and the Republicans making sure that they can do what they like.

There is corruption all around and many US citizens are to afraid or cynical to stand up to the gov't who is suppose to serve them, and in the UK, people are catching the government out on their corruption because they gov't there thinks Brits think like Americans and that the societies are the same. It's not, britain is smaller, people actually travel and learn things without experiencing too much disinformation, and they hate their government.

Right now, there is on equiery into corruption within parliament. And ISn't the PM still an unelected leader.

Considering how messed up things are, I find it hard to believe people are turning a blind eye. I guess most people are getting retarded.

[Jon84]

Perhaps the problem then isn't that the British were there in 1917, but that they weren't in 1867.

Not replying to me because you know I know you are a liar and proof is all over this thread, hence you are replying to less threatening members? I comprhend. When you are ready with a pack of lies and any back up, be sure the let me know please. Remember, there7s stuff from here I can copy and paste that has countered every lie you have said here.

Come on now, why not answer my question? It is pretty straight forward. I'm sure it won't make all that you have said to me and others right now seem like poo. Well, that isn't a guarantee but fingers crossed yeah?

Thanks

[edin日本]

Perhaps the problem then isn't that the British were there in 1917, but that they weren't in 1867.

Were they not? Of the western empire builders, the British were the most invested in the ME during the 19th century. After the fall of the Turkish Empire the British were in the enviable position of having experts on site so to speak who could influence the new rulers.

[Jacque_S]

But it wasn't as direct as in India, at least not until much later. Perhaps they'd be better off today if it had been.

[edin日本]

But it wasn't as direct as in India, at least not until much later. Perhaps they'd be better off today if it had been.

Anything is possible but, I don't really think the camel jockeys are easy to influence.

[Jon84]

But it wasn't as direct as in India, at least not until much later. Perhaps they'd be better off today if it had been.

Anything is possible but, I don't really think the camel jockeys are easy to influence.

Comfort talk?

I'm sure imperialization over dark faces was all the rage a century ago and has it's golden past times, but it isn't really a debate when you are doing it with someone who agrees with you.



I am all four licking each others wounds once they have both been ruffed up and are left investing in the pain of their path and themselves, but could you at least ...debate about the topic.

I plain don7t like the Israeli government hence why I point out their mistakes. I certainly don't deny how lame the Iranian government is.

I do accept that both of your views exist and are shared because you are angry and sad. I can understand why you dislike the iranian government; so do I.

But do you guys have to be racist and talk as if you are at a facist evening meeting;picking points in history where successful bigotry has occured? As a away of milking such hatred into a mass of self gratification and power which you really don't have? I mean, I would feel a lot better if you guys just said that you hate towel heads and you wanted to rape them, cut off their heads and Sh!t down their necks.

I have friends who have said that, and it is their views, but they don't beat around the bush and act gay about it. Just say you hate coloreds so people will know how to debate with you.

Debating with someone who shares the same lack of judgement and views, is kind of easy and safe to do. Like when women talk about what they hate about men when there are no men around to defend them.

I accept your views, and know what you are as that is exactly how some family members I have who are fascists talk.

But, don't mind me, heal each others wounds, the ones I and some others here have inflicted.

If it makes you feel better, if If iran gets invaded, well I wouldn't batter an eyelid, because i think all this is all jokes and you are the butt of them, as well as the arabs.

More war means more economical problems meaning also, problems for you too. You guys want revenge for something you are not apart of, for nothing, then I be aware that after this happens the goal that will be achieved won't satisfy you because your goal is bloodshed, not solution.

Thanks for your input though. You guys are certainly among many and If i was among many, like the pro islamist or the self loathing, bored, closeted imperialists who hate brown people, then I wouldn7t feel so unique.

I am glad there are people who act the same and who are totally controlled, because it makes me and others feel they have a more valuable existence and a freer mind, even if that's not the case.

Regards.

[edin日本]

Comfort talk?

I'm sure imperialization over dark faces was all the rage a century ago and has it's golden past times, but it isn't really a debate when you are doing it with someone who agrees with you.



I am all four licking each others wounds once they have both been ruffed up and are left investing in the pain of their path and themselves, but could you at least ...debate about the topic.

I plain don7t like the Israeli government hence why I point out their mistakes. I certainly don't deny how lame the Iranian government is.

I do accept that both of your views exist and are shared because you are angry and sad. I can understand why you dislike the iranian government; so do I.

But do you guys have to be racist and talk as if you are at a facist evening meeting;picking points in history where successful bigotry has occured? As a away of milking such hatred into a mass of self gratification and power which you really don't have? I mean, I would feel a lot better if you guys just said that you hate towel heads and you wanted to rape them, cut off their heads and Sh!t down their necks.

I have friends who have said that, and it is their views, but they don't beat around the bush and act gay about it. Just say you hate coloreds so people will know how to debate with you.

Debating with someone who shares the same lack of judgement and views, is kind of easy and safe to do. Like when women talk about what they hate about men when there are no men around to defend them.

I accept your views, and know what you are as that is exactly how some family members I have who are fascists talk.

But, don't mind me, heal each others wounds, the ones I and some others here have inflicted.

If it makes you feel better, if If iran gets invaded, well I wouldn't batter an eyelid, because i think all this is all jokes and you are the butt of them, as well as the arabs.

More war means more economical problems meaning also, problems for you too. You guys want revenge for something you are not apart of, for nothing, then I be aware that after this happens the goal that will be achieved won't satisfy you because your goal is bloodshed, not solution.

Thanks for your input though. You guys are certainly among many and If i was among many, like the pro islamist or the self loathing, bored, closeted imperialists who hate brown people, then I wouldn7t feel so unique.

I am glad there are people who act the same and who are totally controlled, because it makes me and others feel they have a more valuable existence and a freer mind, even if that's not the case.

Regards.

I'm too old to be politically correct. But seeing as you've drunk the Kool Ade and are determined to kiss and make nice with the likes of bin Laden, Kim Jong Il, al Assad, Khadafi, al Bashir, Ali Khameni and the rwest of the backstabbers, I'd suggest you wear a good protective vest, watch out for concealed weapons, check your wallet, jewelly and the gold fillings in your teeth after making out with this bunch.

BTW which idiot are you, Beavis or Butthead?

[Lovelynice]

I'm too old to be politically correct. But seeing as you've drunk the Kool Ade and are determined to kiss and make nice with the likes of bin Laden, Kim Jong Il, al Assad, Khadafi, al Bashir, Ali Khameni and the rwest of the backstabbers, I'd suggest you wear a good protective vest, watch out for concealed weapons, check your wallet, jewelly and the gold fillings in your teeth after making out with this bunch.

BTW which idiot are you, Beavis or Butthead?

Hmmm.... what a load of crock you posted.

By the way, you seem to prove that suspicion that racist trolls are ignorant fools; you can't even spell correctly. An occassional typo is tolerable, but your post is littered with mispellings. You really would have a more credible argument if you just stuck to the facts, but instead you rely on emotional argument and recycled propaganda.

[lyzard]

There will be no attack on Iran unfortunately, unless they provoke Israel, god willing. But historically, every country that has attacked Israel has suffered greatly later. Look at the conditions in Egypt, Libya, iraq, to name a few countries. Iran does not want to end up any worse than it is, so they will be good little smart muslims and obey Israel.

[paijingod]

There will be no attack on Iran unfortunately, unless they provoke Israel, god willing. But historically, every country that has attacked Israel has suffered greatly later. Look at the conditions in Egypt, Libya, iraq, to name a few countries. Iran does not want to end up any worse than it is, so they will be good little smart muslims and obey Israel.

Don't forget the ancient Roman empire. They attacked Israel and went under just a few centuries later.

[Hijinx]

Don't forget the ancient Roman empire.

Who could forget them? They put on quite a show.

[lyzard]

Who could forget them? They put on quite a show.

The circus?