Major Act of Terroism Hits U.S.

[Hijinx]

White American terrorist flies plane into building:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_467264.html

[Spinning Wheels]

White American terrorist flies plane into building:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_467264.html

He had a problem with the IRS so he crashed his plane into their building.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plane_crash_pilot

[bitteradjunct]

A suicidal plane crash by a lone looney, even into a govt building, should not be defined as terrorism. Discuss.

[Hijinx]

He had a problem with the IRS so he crashed his plane into their building.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plane_crash_pilot

A major act of terrorism--like I said.

Good thing the guy wasn't Muslim or we would have had to invade another country.

[Hijinx]

A suicidal plane crash by a lone looney, even into a govt building, should not be defined as terrorism. Discuss.

Oh, the hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spinning Wheels]

A major act of terrorism--like I said.

This could be debated.

Major? Define.
One guy. Is a lone attack considered terrorism?

[twelvedown]

An awful thing no doubt but can this guy really be called a 'terrorist'?
The Sept 11 hijackers. They wanted to terrorize people, make them scared, as well as kill people
This guy sounds like a psychotic geek who wanted to kill people.

[Spinning Wheels]

This guy sounds like a psychotic geek who wanted to kill people.

He wanted to kill IRS people.

[Hijinx]

This could be debated.

Major? Define.
One guy. Is a lone attack considered terrorism?

The guy deliberately flew a f*@#ing airplane into the side of a large building. Jeeez!

I think this should just lay to rest the whole myth of any "liberal" media in the States. None of the majors are using terrorist. It's "protester" or "suicidal pilot" or "disgruntled man" or "man with a grudge.

Okay, fine, the new standard has been set. From now on, 911 was just a few guys with a grudge that crashed a plane into a couple of tall buildings.

Next time any Muslim "terrorist" is caught with a stinky shoe on an airliner, he ain't a terrorist--he's just protesting. Got it?

[ひさしぶり]

Guess what?

He was disgruntled about his taxes...


GET IN LINE, YOU FOOL!!!

[shackle]

White American terrorist flies plane into building:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_467264.html

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Hijinx!!, wow, a white American doing something crazy!, you must feel like all your birthdays have come at once!!

Terrorist?, Not quite!, what organisation does he belong to? does he belong to a terrorist network with clear aims and goals? What are his demands? Sounds more like a lunatic pissed off with getting taxed and decided to take his anger out.

Wanna find real terrorists? Logs on to BBC, clicks on Middle East.... oh!, what a suprise, not another suicide bomber!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521475.stm

[Don Juan]

The guy deliberately flew a f*@#ing airplane into the side of a large building. Jeeez!

I think this should just lay to rest the whole myth of any "liberal" media in the States. None of the majors are using terrorist. It's "protester" or "suicidal pilot" or "disgruntled man" or "man with a grudge.

Okay, fine, the new standard has been set. From now on, 911 was just a few guys with a grudge that crashed a plane into a couple of tall buildings.

Next time any Muslim "terrorist" is caught with a stinky shoe on an airliner, he ain't a terrorist--he's just protesting. Got it?

yeah yeah we got it. muslims are peaceful little doves... oookey

[bitteradjunct]

My Oxford (Learner's) Dictionary defines terrorism as the use of violent action in order to achieve political action or to force a government to act.

Since it was a lone nut he couldn't really have been using his suicide to achieve political action or force a govt to act. Forcing the govt to take action scrapping his carcass out of the cockpit doesn't count.

I will agree with you if you want to argue the American media throws around the word terrorism far too much these days. The Fort Hood shooter should never have been labelled a terrorist. I wouldn't call the suicide bombing of the CIA base in Afghanistan a terrorist act either though plenty of newspapers did.

And I want body bags being ordered in bulk before I call anything a "major" attack.

[Hijinx]

Terrorist?, Not quite!, what organisation does he belong to? does he belong to a terrorist network with clear aims and goals? What are his demands? Sounds more like a lunatic pissed off with getting taxed and decided to take his anger out.

You fail to persuade. All terrorists must be a card-carrying member of some organization? I think the guy had a Blockbusters card--maybe a frequent patron card down at the local strip club--does that count?

[shackle]

My Oxford (Learner's) Dictionary defines terrorism as the use of violent action in order to achieve political action or to force a government to act.

Since it was a lone nut he couldn't really have been using his suicide to achieve political action or force a govt to act. Forcing the govt to take action scrapping his carcass out of the cockpit doesn't count.
.

This ^^^^

The IRA are terrorists, the ETA are terrorists, Al Qaeda are terrorists by DEFINITION.

This guy doesn't belong to a wider affiliation, he has no wider goals or politial aims. He is just one disgruntled guy that carried out some violence because he was pissed off! He is now dead, no-one gives a toss and he hasn't achieved anything! I am sorry to break it to you, but this is not terrorism!, Now go to bed!

[Hijinx]

yeah yeah we got it. muslims are peaceful little doves... oookey

What a bigoted statement that is. Yes, Muslims are peaceful--as much so as any other religion--you ******.

[Jacque_S]

It was workplace violence. Just like that Ft Hood thingie.

[Spinning Wheels]

It was workplace violence. Just like that Ft Hood thingie.

He didn't work there.

[Hijinx]

It was workplace violence. Just like that Ft Hood thingie.

Was the guy an IRS employee?

[Spinning Wheels]

Was the guy an IRS employee?

See above post.

[Hijinx]

C'mon folks on the right, just get it out of your system. When you say terrorist these days, you mean uppity sand n@##er.

[Don Juan]

What a bigoted statement that is. Yes, Muslims are peaceful--as much so as any other religion--you ******.

Do you feel u r so weak you need to add a swear word to give power to ur statement?

[Jacque_S]

Was the guy an IRS employee?

Did he have ties to anti-IRS organizations and believe that a millenia-old book justified his actions?

[Spinning Wheels]

[Beach Bum]

A major act of terrorism--like I said.

Good thing the guy wasn't Muslim or we would have had to invade another country.

Oh please Hijinx...we wouldn't have invaded another counry...we would've bombed them with remote control toys.

[mael]

Well fancy that!!! An American with the balls to do what he thinks is right.

A terrorist? Nah! He's a patriot. I hope many more will take this action against the illegal government orgs which swindle the citizens and suck the country dry.

I'll bet he was a "quiet" man. He just took all he could and more and finally got so angry and made the ultimate scrifice. There must be a lot more who feel like he did.

Cutting off the hands and heads of the Hydra might not kill the beast but while the Hydra's hands and heads are growing back there's a chance to get at the real problem.

My only regret about this incident is that he didn't do more damage to the system. If someone wants to make a statement like crashing into the IRS building then I wish they'd consider flying into where the most senior people are lurking.

[rainbowtokyo]

Well fancy that!!! An American with the balls to do what he thinks is right.

A terrorist? Nah! He's a patriot. I hope many more will take this action against the illegal government orgs which swindle the citizens and suck the country dry.

I'll bet he was a "quiet" man. He just took all he could and more and finally got so angry and made the ultimate scrifice. There must be a lot more who feel like he did.

Cutting off the hands and heads of the Hydra might not kill the beast but while the Hydra's hands and heads are growing back there's a chance to get at the real problem.

My only regret about this incident is that he didn't do more damage to the system. If someone wants to make a statement like crashing into the IRS building then I wish they'd consider flying into where the most senior people are lurking.

Ah the late night anti-semite and hater of blacks speaks again. I wonder if you pollute your kids minds with this kind of venom? Maybe they will outgrow you and finally understand that you are mentally ill and deserving of help. And let's hope you get help before you start killing jews and blacks, something you'd dearly love to do if only you had enough testosterone.

How's the job situation old boy? Work will set you free, as they say (just in case you forgot your teutonic history).

[mael]

Ah Newhigh.

I see the meds aren't working out too well. Well in your case it must be difficult.

Oh!

Check this video documentary about someone else who was pissed with the IRS:-

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9951995033689#

* (Not you Newhigh. It's got too many long words and your attention-span is too short. You just go on dribbling, ranting and playing with yourself in the corner of your mom's basement).

* I hope you get the dose of your medications right someday soon.

[Hijinx]

Did he have ties to anti-IRS organizations and believe that a millenia-old book justified his actions?

Anit-IRS organizations? Well, if he were an libertarian or Tea Bagger...


The man committed an act of terrorism, plain an simple. The only reason so many of you won't agree is because of the target he chose and his color profile.

[Hijinx]

I'll bet he was a "quiet" man. He just took all he could and more and finally got so angry and made the ultimate scrifice. There must be a lot more who feel like he did.

Hardly. The guy was a little whiny bitch who selfishly wanted the benefits of citizenship, but was too much of a tight-a$$ to pay. The country just became a better place with one less of his ilk. My only wish is that the next one just shoot himself in the head at home and not subject the country to any more terrorism.

[RexRepublican]

The kook was a LIBERAL that's all you need to know.

[Hijinx]

The kook was a LIBERAL that's all you need to know.

He was part of a shadowy anti-IRS group in the eighties.

[Hijinx]

Yep, I completely agree:

Terrorism in Texas: Why the Austin Plane Crash Is an Act of Terror



In the United States, the official definition of terrorism is codified by law. Pursuant to 22 USC § 2656f(d)(2), terrorism is "premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents."
As this definition indicates, there are five elements to any act of terrorism. A simple examination of the Austin crash clearly shows that all five elements were met in this incident.

1. Did the incident involve violence? Obviously.
2. Was the perpetrator a subnational or non-state actor? No doubt.
3. Was the target a noncombatant target? Absolutely.
4. Was the attack premeditated? Yes, although you have to read Stack's note to be sure of this.
5. Was the crash politically motivated? I can't see how, after reading his note, one can conclude anything other than this attack had a political objective.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/louis-..._b_469522.html

[bitteradjunct]

Someone else agrees with you:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...2/19/terrorism

[Hijinx]

Thanks. Good read.

[Aki mononoke]

Why is Hijinx allowed to control this debate? Why must this topic center around semantics instead of the actual issues? Oh yeah, because Hijinx is a moderator so we can't add him to our ignore list and must suffer his 10 offensive posts per day.

I read through part of the crasher's suicide note and it seemed like he didn't understand democracy at all. He talked about how he wrote to his representatives a lot but his concerns were never addressed by government; like his needs mean anything in a nation of 300m people. Individuals need to understand that they don't matter in a democracy, only the group matters.

It's a shame the tax system in America is so awful, but killing IRS workers is nothing but self-righteous murder.

[Hijinx]

I apologize for your suffering. I know there are some who can't possibly ignore the written word without the ignore list crutch. For your suffering, maybe we can GP canonize you or something--I'll looking into getting the feature added to the forums.

[shackle]

We can sit here all day picking through dictionaries, worrying about whether the action that man did constitutes as "terrorism" or not, it really doesn't matter!

A white American does something stupid, so how does this "LEGITIMISE" Al Qaeda?? Does this make 9/11 okay? Does this make 7/7 okay?? Does this make suicide bombings in Iraq (that let's face it, happen on a daily basis) okay??? because a white guy did it??

I don't care how you define this attack, whether you call it terrorism or not, at the end of the day, it DOESN"T justify Al Qaeda!

[Hijinx]

Nothing justifies wanton murder regardless of state or non-state affiliation.

[ひさしぶり]

For some reason, Wesley Snipes got asked what he thought about the dude who attacked the IRS building. No comment (yet) from Willie Nelson.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ory?id=9891609