Eurabian Nights

[timely response]

Still haven't learnt to tie your own shoelaces? Perhaps it's too late to send you to remedial school? You'd have the dubious distinction of being the world's oldest sweathog.

Why don't you entertain us with some more of your "boots on the ground" some place else knowledge of accommodations in rural Afghanistan?

[timely response]

No wonder that Jacque has been so silent. Seems as though he,or one of his tin foil disciples, has been teaching courses at West Point.

US military course taught officers 'Islam is the enemy'

A course for US military officers has been teaching that America's enemy is Islam in general and suggesting that the country might ultimately have to obliterate the Islamic holy cities of Mecca and Medina without regard for civilian deaths, following second world war precedents of the nuclear attack on Hiroshima....

Dooley also presumed, for the purposes of his theoretical war plan, that the Geneva conventions that set standards of armed conflict, are "no longer relevant".

He adds: "This would leave open the option once again of taking war to a civilian population wherever necessary (the historical precedents of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki being applicable to the Mecca and Medina destruction decision point)."

His war plan suggests possible outcomes such as "Saudi Arabia threatened with starvation ... Islam reduced to cult status".

A copy of the presentation was obtained and posted online by Wired.com's Danger Room blog. The college did not respond to the Associated Press' requests for copies of the documents, but a Pentagon spokesman authenticated the documents. Dooley still works for the college, but is no longer teaching, said the joint chiefs of staff chairman, General Martin Dempsey. Dooley has refused to comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...se-islam-enemy

[edin日本]

Give it up! This thread is dead and Jacque_s is in the Kingston Penitentiary for going on an Islamic killing spree.

[edin日本]

Why don't you entertain us with some more of your "boots on the ground" some place else knowledge of accommodations in rural Afghanistan?

I'd really like to entertain you with a steel toed workboot to the head. Why don't you give the address to your 3rd World Hovel and I'll come administer it.

[timely response]

Give it up! This thread is dead and Jacque_s is in the Kingston Penitentiary for going on an Islamic killing spree.

It ain't dead if you keep responding.

[timely response]

I'd really like to entertain you with a steel toed workboot to the head. Why don't you give the address to your 3rd World Hovel and I'll come administer it.

You'd have to learn to lace your boots first... and then navigate your way out of your rocker.

[Ame.Otoko]

It ain't dead if you keep responding.

Why do you bother with these people? They are holier-than-thou trash, project their trash, and will forever remain trash.

As you have see with the Pentagon/FBI classes, what they really want to say has already been made quite apparent.

They will have their genocide - like they have in Iraq - and because they wear a suit and have white skin, this is alright. It will be 'strategic'.

They will have their rape - like with 14 year-old Abeer Qasim Hamza - and their courts will acquit them. Even though the b@stard Taliban do not sink to the depths of gang-raping little girls, killing her family before her, and shooting children in the head (then, burning their bodies), it will be alright - for they are white men in suits.

They will have their propaganda - like the necrophilia hoax they all lapped up - white Christian and atheists, united! - and engorge on it. This will be 'knowledge' - because they are white.

Leave it be. There is nothing to be done. They are in power. They create a new total war/genocide-worthy enemy every single generation.

They have ruled and colonized nonwhites for eight centuries. Billions of us have perished under them, and even for them - though they like to ignore how many of us they used for their 'Good War'. Are you really going to stop them?

[timely response]

Why do you bother with these people?

Which people? Jacque, Ed and the various others?

On some topics, I think that their viewpoints are not without some merit. On others, such as their fear of an impending "Eurabia", I disagree.

I'm not foolish enough to think that I will change their point of view. I write to expose their fallacies. The more they engage, the more they expose their "arguments" to examination. And it ain't pretty. It's even less convincing. Hopefully, it arms others with some facts with which to contradict the empty rhetoric of such people. After all, there are other people who read these pages. This thread is now at over 16,000 plus views. Not bad. Hopefully, it also provides some amusement as Jacque, Ed and co. descend into incoherent rants and expletives which really only serve to highlight the emptiness of their positions.

Even though the b@stard Taliban do not sink to the depths of gang-raping little girls, killing her family before her, and shooting children in the head (then, burning their bodies), it will be alright - for they are white men in suits.

I may not be a fan of western imperialism, but that don't mean I support the likes of the Taliban. Far from it. They are guilty of other despicable crimes.

[timely response]

Ha, the cowardly lion, on line right now, refuses to take the bait. That, and the deleted thread, says a lot...

[Ame.Otoko]

Which people? Jacque, Ed and the various others?

These white supremacist types whose holy race can do no wrong. Not by virtue of race, but by that of power. Who else?

Who else is getting away with raping little brown girls from Okinawa to Haditha and Sebrenica?

On some topics, I think that their viewpoints are not without some merit. On others, such as their fear of an impending "Eurabia", I disagree.

Equivalent to saying people who like Hitler and Milosevic, have an 'opinion'.

They also stirred BS falsities about non-whites with hooked noses and circumcised ***. Infact, the Nazis and Serbs both used that little circumcision trick to find their prey.

Today, the EDL does so by hunting families in halal fried chicken shops.

I'm not foolish enough to think that I will change their point of view. I write to expose their fallacies.

Yawwwwwwwwn. You do not expose the fallacies of those willing to use blatant lies - and be completely unapologetic about it. Everyone from Edin to KB gloated in the fake necrophilia 'news' thread. Because they can. Because their race dominates. Because they can celebrate death and wish it on others without consequence.

The more they engage, the more they expose their "arguments" to examination.

You seem to believe anyone cares. People in France protesting aren't making in a dent in the hardening white-supremacist nature of France, or Hiolland, Belgium and the UK. Exposing some of their social rejects in Japan on an online forum, you're telling me, will?

And it ain't pretty. It's even less convincing.

To who? No one important. George Bush was a war criminal. The marines who gang-raped 14 year old Abeer Hamza are war criminals.

Guess what they have in common? They are white; they rule the earth. Ergo, they both get away with their crimes.

I may not be a fan of western imperialism, but that don't mean I support the likes of the Taliban. Far from it. They are guilty of other despicable crimes.

What a stupid, idiot thing to say.It was implied whereanyone supported the Taliban?

Even more imbecilic to deflect away from the fact that white troops in brown countries commit even more wretched crimes than do their supposedly evil-to-the-bone enemies. Even the Taliban - b@stards they are , as I called them earlier - do not stoop to gang-raping little girls in front of their families and then killing the family in front of the girl while gang-raping her. They do not go on rampages shooting children in the head and burning their bodies like Robert Bales did. They don't cause leukemia rates higher than those in Hiroshima through the use of depleted uranium. That's all white 'benevolence'.

If the perpetrator is white, it's alright. Ergo, Robert Bales had PTSD, like the rapists of Abeer Hamza did.

White supremacists like Edin have what ground to stand on? Their troops are animals. Their leaders lead them into false war after false war. Their populations follow like sheep into each one believing one lie after another.

I'll tell you what ground they stand on - that of white domination and utter supremacy in this planet.

They have ground us under their heels for eight centuries. Eight centuries of their colonization, domination, and abuse. We will continue to be so ground. It will not stop and anyone who thinks - like you - that this can be changed, is pitiful.

[Deathblob]

Any raping done by US soldiers is noticed because it's the exception to the rule. You must be a complete and total tool to be unaware of the extent of the abuse of children in Pashtun society.

Not to mention the general case for Islam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_children

"hatta tutiqa'l-rijal, which means that the wedding may not take place until the girl is physically fit to engage in sexual intercourse. In comparison, baligh or balaghat concerns the reaching of sexual maturity which becomes manifest by the menses. The age related to these two concepts can, but need not necessarily, coincide."

[edin日本]

White supremacists like Edin have what ground to stand on?

Who you calling a white man? You GD stuck up Aryan! I hope the Black Panthers get ahold of you and cut your throat.

[timely response]

These white supremacist types whose holy race can do no wrong. Not by virtue of race, but by that of power. Who else?...

White supremacists like Edin have what ground to stand on? Their troops are animals.

Although there are quite a number of other adjectives which I would use to describe them, can't say that I've ever considered either Jacque or Ed to be white supremacists or racists.

Your penchant for unsubstantiated hyperbole is as ridiculous and about as convincing as theirs.

[Ghostlsyunny11]

I don't get it! Why all the hate against the muslims. I'm a muslim, does that mean you hate me too (most probably it does). Why judge a whole nation just because the media shows off a few extremists. I read that article about parents withdrawing their children from music lessons, WTH!! I listen to music, and I listen to it with full volume, nobody tells me sh!t. Have you guys ever known a muslim personally? I seriously don't understand why people hate us so much just because they see the media exploiting us.

[timely response]

Looks like there's no immediate need to worry about an impending Amerabia. Heroic citizens are out there defending the nation.

BTW, still waiting for credible demographic data to back up your claims of an impending Eurabia...

Former Marine: I burned Ohio mosque to avenge US troops

A former Marine from Indiana admitted Wednesday that he broke into a mosque in Ohio and set fire to a prayer rug because he wanted revenge for the killings of American troops overseas.

Randy Linn pleaded guilty to hate crime charges, saying he'd become enraged after seeing images of wounded soldiers in the news.

"Every day you turn on the TV, you see Muslims trying to kill Americans," said Linn, a truck driver from St. Joe.

When asked by a federal judge whether he thought all Muslims are terrorists, he answered: "I'd say most of them are."

A deal between prosecutors and Linn, 52, calls for him to be sentenced to 20 years next April. He pleaded guilty to intentionally damaging and destroying religious property and two gun-related charges.

U.S. District Judge Jack Zouhary told Linn that his acts were an attack on all places of religion and that the mosque was a symbol of peace.

"You are no better than the terrorists or extremists you sought to punish," Zouhary said.

Prosecutors said Linn drove about two hours from his home to suburban Toledo on Sept. 30 and broke into the mosque where he poured gasoline on the rug and lit it on fire.

He estimated that he had drunk 45 beers over several hours before he decided to drive to Ohio.

Linn had several firearms in his car and carried a gun into the mosque, which was empty at the time.

U.S. Attorney Steven Dettelbach said it was fortunate no one was there. "This is a man who had intolerance in his heart and acted with hate," he said. "We can count ourselves lucky."

Linn said he went room by room to make sure no one was in the building. "I was drinking a beer while I was doing that," he said.

A sprinkler system extinguished the blaze, leaving smoke and water damage in the prayer room of the facility, whose golden dome is a landmark along Interstate 75. No one was hurt.

Members of the Islamic center have been unable to use the building and expect repairs to be finished by the end of March.

Dr. Mahjabeen Islam, president of the Islamic Center, said its members been overwhelmed by support from the community and churches. But she was saddened by Linn's statements in court.

"It was heart-wrenching to hear him speak because the ignorance and intolerance is still palpable," she said. "This is an individual who knows nothing about Islam."

A woman who knows Linn had identified him in publicized surveillance images and contacted authorities, according to a court affidavit.

The woman told law enforcement officers that Linn had made comments complaining about the deaths of U.S. military members in the Middle East, recent attacks on U.S. embassies and Muslims' angry reactions to an anti-Islam video posted online.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Ava Dustin said Linn told his son two weeks before the fire that he wanted to burn down the mosque.

Linn said he started to have second thoughts when he drove home. "Coming back, I thought, `What in the heck did I do?'"

"I feel bad I did it," he said. "It's a little too late now."

http://www.stripes.com/news/former-m...roops-1.201347

[Majestic]

The real heroes in this case are the judge, jury, and the various prosecutors.

I think everyone will agree that it will be a joyous day indeed when the first anti-hate crime law is enacted in any Islamic republic. And it will be even more joyous when the first Islamic judge makes a similar judgment.

[caramellocap]

Why do you bother with these people? They are holier-than-thou trash, project their trash, and will forever remain trash.

As you have see with the Pentagon/FBI classes, what they really want to say has already been made quite apparent.

They will have their genocide - like they have in Iraq - and because they wear a suit and have white skin, this is alright. It will be 'strategic'.

They will have their rape - like with 14 year-old Abeer Qasim Hamza - and their courts will acquit them. Even though the b@stard Taliban do not sink to the depths of gang-raping little girls, killing her family before her, and shooting children in the head (then, burning their bodies), it will be alright - for they are white men in suits.

They will have their propaganda - like the necrophilia hoax they all lapped up - white Christian and atheists, united! - and engorge on it. This will be 'knowledge' - because they are white.

Leave it be. There is nothing to be done. They are in power. They create a new total war/genocide-worthy enemy every single generation.

They have ruled and colonized nonwhites for eight centuries. Billions of us have perished under them, and even for them - though they like to ignore how many of us they used for their 'Good War'. Are you really going to stop them?

You really are a sick little vegemite, aint you? As well as completely farking ignorant of human history. In your crazed head only white skinned people are apparently programmed to be killers, enslavers, etc.

But if you want to ignore centuries of invasions and colonisation by Asian people (the Mongols are the most graphically brutal example although the Huns who were closely related to modern day Koreans were very nasty too when they made their way into Europe), by Northern African Muslims (the invasion and occupation of Spain for centuries which left a legacy of cruel practices that stood out even in what were cruel times all over the world), and the good ol slave trade in Africa for far longer than whites by Arabic speaking peoples which had as a 'norm' boys and men for sexual slavery both in Muslim countries in Africa and outside, then go right ahead and bury your head with its disturbed brain in the sands of ignorance.

I could also teach you a history lesson about how white Europeans were enslaved and taken away to North Africa and other places, how Eastern Europeans came to be Muslims under threat of death because of Muslim invasions of their countries, etc etc but of course this is a reality you might have to acknowledge and so it cannot be tolerated.

You're a crazed bellend.

Oh and to others here shocked by the American bloke who burned a mosque - yeah, that's something to be condemned but it's absolutely normal for Christian churches to be burned down (sometimes with worshippers inside) in Pakistan and Egypt, and Indonesia has had more than isolated incidents of it too.

In Australia a church was burned down after demos at Cronulla Beach against Muslims going to Sydney's beaches and threatening to rape women in bikinis, actual bashing of lifeguards and intimidation of anybody who didn't come from thick as pigshizz, ignorant third world backgrounds of the kind those particular Muslims came from.

The Australian and international media focused on the white mob venting their fury, not something most of us Aussies endorsed but funnily enough the Muslim mobs who went on a rampage smashing in car windows of people at shopping malls in various suburbs and the burning of a church went on without much comment.

Of course the general politically correct view that's common goes like this: we can't offend Muslims because there are significant elements in those communities who will threaten, attack and even kill non Muslims for expressing their opinions. But this is agreeing to be blackmailed. When churches burn, when women are threatened for not wearing sacks and when a Japanese academic is murdered for translating The Satanic Verses in his own country, that means the Muslim bullies win because supposedly we just have to put up with it.

We're not allowed to be offended by this intimidation but fark help us if any Muslims feel offended even when it's based on zero offence by objective, rational norms. Absolute hypocrisy. Oh and you sick little vegemite - most Muslims are not what I'd call white. Go fark yourself you hypocrite.

[timely response]

The real heroes in this case are the judge, jury, and the various prosecutors.

I think everyone will agree that it will be a joyous day indeed when the first anti-hate crime law is enacted in any Islamic republic. And it will be even more joyous when the first Islamic judge makes a similar judgment.

Agreed on all accounts.

Kinda ironic, though, that the US would support brutal regimes like Saudi Arabia with backward, repressive Islamic laws, and that in many of the other places in the Islamic world where they or their proxies have meddled such as Iran have become more Islamic and more fanatical as a result.

[kurogane]

I'm not entirely sure about this, but wouldn't it be ironic if the US supported actual democratic reform and such in the region only to be rewarded with greater extremismszzs?

The result of hypocritical US foreign policy seems to be more of a case of just desserts, or, geographically speaking, just deserts.


Unless you think most of what Alannis Morrissette said in that song actually was ironic.

Which it wasn't.


But other than that, yeah.

What is ironic, however, is Americans complaining about religious extremism.

Now that is funny.

Anyways, good to hear the deed got done to the guy who did dastardly deeds. Most Mohammedans, like most Americans, seem like very decent people. Now if they would both just clean their own kitchens.

And get those nasty Phillistinians to leave those poor Israelis alone............

[Majestic]

@ Timely

I think people would find irony, or, maybe in this case what you mean to say is hypocrisy, no matter what course of action the US takes. And those same people are absolutely begging for self determination of the genocidal, suicidal, repressive Hamas - without even a trace of irony.

Is the US correct to support Saudi Arabia? Would the US and the Saudis be better served if the US withdrew support? In the vacuum left by a US departure, would the Russians or the Chinese step in to champion Saudi Arabian democracy? Is there any guarantee that the Saudi Arabians themselves wouldn't replace the royal family with an even more fundamentally Islamist regime?

I wish there were easy answers. I wish there were no such things as unintended consequences. Blaming the US for any action, and blaming the US for inaction, looks like the easiest thing to do. But when Obama gets the Nobel Prize for doing nothing, people don't like that either. As my mother would say, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope.

[Jacque_S]

I'm not entirely sure about this, but wouldn't it be ironic if the US supported actual democratic reform and such in the region only to be rewarded with greater extremismszzs?

Like the Alanis song, it's not and would not be ironic. The unstated assumption in this line of thinking is that there's an inherent violence to Those People. Taking smug satisfaction in other peoples' dysfunctions is one thing, but using them against others doesn't strike me as very progressive. What's worse is that the anti-Israel politically correct mulitkulti Left has zero affinity with muslims otherwise.

[timely response]

I'm not entirely sure about this, but wouldn't it be ironic if the US supported actual democratic reform and such in the region only to be rewarded with greater extremismszzs?

The result of hypocritical US foreign policy seems to be more of a case of just desserts, or, geographically speaking, just deserts.

That could well be the case initially. But if the US were to stop providing material support to repressive regimes, local populations might find it easier to unseat their political leaders. Not too many people enjoy living under a repressive regime.

There's a good interview with a member of RAWA, The Revolutionary Association of Women of Afghanistan, who discusses this very issue. And even though she acknowledges that things might initially become worse were NATO to pull out, she believes it would be easier for the Afghan people to deal with the likes of the Taliban as there would only be one enemy instead of two.

The NATO Occupation and Fundamentalism: An Interview with Miriam of RAWA

http://www.killingtrain.com/node/643

Unless you think most of what Alannis Morrissette said in that song actually was ironic.

Heard the name, but I'm not really familiar with her music so don't know what song you're referring to.

What is ironic, however, is Americans complaining about religious extremism.

Now that is funny.

Too true, in a sad sort of way.

[timely response]

@ Timely

I think people would find irony, or, maybe in this case what you mean to say is hypocrisy, no matter what course of action the US takes. And those same people are absolutely begging for self determination of the genocidal, suicidal, repressive Hamas - without even a trace of irony.

Hypocrisy in the support shown for oppressive regimes. Irony in that in many of the places where the US has meddled in the ME and Central Asia, they have become more fundamentalist.

Not too sure that anybody who is genuinely interested in peace in the ME is all that delighted in the support which Hamas has gained in recent years. However, the stranglehold placed on Gaza has ironically and predictably increased local support for Hamas.

Is the US correct to support Saudi Arabia? Would the US and the Saudis be better served if the US withdrew support? In the vacuum left by a US departure, would the Russians or the Chinese step in to champion Saudi Arabian democracy? Is there any guarantee that the Saudi Arabians themselves wouldn't replace the royal family with an even more fundamentally Islamist regime?

I wish there were easy answers. I wish there were no such things as unintended consequences. Blaming the US for any action, and blaming the US for inaction, looks like the easiest thing to do. But when Obama gets the Nobel Prize for doing nothing, people don't like that either. As my mother would say, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope.

There certainly aren't any easy answers. However, if the old playbook hasn't been producing the intended results, it hardly makes sense to continue following it.

[kurogane]

Hypocrisy in the support shown for oppressive regimes. Irony in that in many of the places where the US has meddled in the ME and Central Asia, they have become more fundamentalist..

No, no, I get your point, I just don't think it's ironic.

Sad, and even predictable, but not ironic.

Unless we can assume that US meddling has been positive and progressive in its nature, rather than supportive of repressive allies as a Machiavellian machinatory measure.

Were the current results the product of the former, then yes. But they aren't.

At any rate, what I mean is that unintended consequences are not in and of themselves ironic.

There needs to be a poetic twist there, and the poetry is sadly lacking.

And I don't even like poetry, except in prose.

[timely response]

Taking smug satisfaction in other peoples' dysfunctions is one thing, but using them against others doesn't strike me as very progressive.

Hmmm, from what I recall, you were attempting to defend US support for Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge after the full extent of their atrocities had become well known.

Vietnam was (not unreasonably) perceived as a threat. Imagine you're Thailand, the laziest, crassest people in Asia. Suddenly, the battle-seasoned veterans of what was then the world's 5th largest military show up on your doorstep, almost literally overnight. D'oh! This was also considered a sensitive time in US-China relations. For the US it would've been much more important to court China than to worry about the KR, who by then were out of power and confined to a thin slice of land on the Thai-Cambodia border.

http://forum.gaijinpot.com/showthrea...u-About-Israel

You also seemed to be in favour of aiding the rebels in Syria despite their open declaration to establish an Islamic state.

[timely response]

No, no, I get your point, I just don't think it's ironic.

Sad, and even predictable, but not ironic.

Unless we can assume that US meddling has been positive and progressive in its nature, rather than supportive of repressive allies as a Machiavellian machinatory measure.

Were the current results the product of the former, then yes. But they aren't.

At any rate, what I mean is that unintended consequences are not in and of themselves ironic.

There needs to be a poetic twist there, and the poetry is sadly lacking.

And I don't even like poetry, except in prose.

Fair enough.

I had meant that it was ironic in relation to their stated goals about spreading democracy and human rights, which many American citizens actually seem to believe.

However, it would be hard to imagine that the warmongers and policymakers believe what they say. It is simply for domestic consumption. And, in that sense, the outcome is not ironic, but readily expected.

[kurogane]

I knew what you meant, silly bunny.

I was just being anal.

But yes, by your account, it is.

And may somebody's God help those gullible enough to buy any of that, because mine is officially fed up.

[John Grey]

Fair enough.

I had meant that it was ironic in relation to their stated goals about spreading democracy and human rights, which many American citizens actually seem to believe.

However, it would be hard to imagine that the warmongers and policymakers believe what they say. It is simply for domestic consumption. And, in that sense, the outcome is not ironic, but readily expected.

"five-invasion-plots-three-continents-identical-lies"

"........Weapons of course: “could be used to contain sarin gas”, according to another U.S. official. Another added: “ … we are concerned about any move that might signal that they are somehow ready to use those chemical weapons on their own people.” (xii.)
“Déjà vu all over again”, as the saying goes.
Syria responded on 6th December: “Syria stresses again, for the tenth, the hundredth time, that if we had such weapons, they would not be used against its people. We would not commit suicide,” Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Al Maqdad told Lebanon’s Al Manar television … We fear there is a conspiracy to provide a pretext for any subsequent interventions in Syria by these countries that are increasing pressure on Syria.” Indeed. It would hardly be a first."


Very interesting to read it in a historical context:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/five-in...l-lies/5316537

[Jacque_S]

What influence did the US ever have in Syria or Libya?

[Jacque_S]

"Mega-mosque" coming....to Dublin, of all places:

City planners in the Irish capital, Dublin, have given the go-ahead for the construction of a sprawling mega-mosque complex that will cater to Ireland's burgeoning Muslim population.
...
The massive €40 million ($50 million) "Islamic Cultural Center" (tee hee) will be built on a six-acre site in Clongriffin, a new and as yet unfinished suburb at the northern edge of Dublin.
...
Although the number of Muslims in Ireland is relatively small (1.07% of the overall population), when compared to other European countries, the rate of growth of the Muslim population in Ireland has surged exponentially (1,170%) over the past 20 years, and Islam is now the fastest growing religion in the country. The total population of Ireland is 4.6 million.

According to Irish census data for 1991, the number of Muslims in the country was 3,875. After 1991, the Muslim population jumped, due to the arrival of Muslim refugees and asylum seekers from Bosnia, Kosovo and Somalia. According to the Irish census data for 2002, the number of Muslims was 19,147; by 2006, that number had swelled to 32,539. In the 2011 census, the number of Muslims was 49,204.

Ireland's Muslim population is projected to almost triple over the next twenty years, according to the Washington, DC-based Pew Research Center. A report entitled, The Future of the Global Muslim Population: Projections for 2010-2030 forecasts that there will be 125,000 Muslims living in Ireland by 2030.

[timely response]

"Mega-mosque" coming....to Dublin, of all places:

City planners in the Irish capital, Dublin, have given the go-ahead for the construction of a sprawling mega-mosque complex that will cater to Ireland's burgeoning Muslim population.
...
The massive €40 million ($50 million) "Islamic Cultural Center" (tee hee) will be built on a six-acre site in Clongriffin, a new and as yet unfinished suburb at the northern edge of Dublin.
...
Although the number of Muslims in Ireland is relatively small (1.07% of the overall population), when compared to other European countries, the rate of growth of the Muslim population in Ireland has surged exponentially (1,170%) over the past 20 years, and Islam is now the fastest growing religion in the country. The total population of Ireland is 4.6 million.

According to Irish census data for 1991, the number of Muslims in the country was 3,875. After 1991, the Muslim population jumped, due to the arrival of Muslim refugees and asylum seekers from Bosnia, Kosovo and Somalia. According to the Irish census data for 2002, the number of Muslims was 19,147; by 2006, that number had swelled to 32,539. In the 2011 census, the number of Muslims was 49,204.

Ireland's Muslim population is projected to almost triple over the next twenty years, according to the Washington, DC-based Pew Research Center. A report entitled, The Future of the Global Muslim Population: Projections for 2010-2030 forecasts that there will be 125,000 Muslims living in Ireland by 2030.

But you assured us in post #16 of this thread that "Bureaucracies in Europe simply can't be trusted to gather or provide such information."

So where do these demographic figures that have you wetting your pants come from? Surely not from the "European bureaucracies" which can't be trusted to collect them...


What was the forecast for the overall population of Ireland for 2030? At today's population level, the projected Muslim population would only be 2.7%... Guinness will be flowing in the pubs of Ireland for a long time yet.


How's your tinfoil suit coming along? Have you lined your bunker with tinfoil yet?