Finance Job's In Japan

[shigusan]

What are the chances of securing a decent finance job paying 8 million + yen per year with all of the below.

JLPT N1
CFP (certified Financial Planner)
3 years experience in the field of FP
spouse visa in Japan.

Good chance?, or hard to get job? as most of the other posts on these forums seem to say.

[Shikata ga arimasen]

Not sure about the situation in Osaka, but if you have passed JLPT 1 (and can converse fluently in Japanese) and have a spousal visa, you should be able to find something if you give yourself a few months and are already in Japan.

Don't limit yourself to headhunters and try to network as much as possible (contact alumni who are in Japan, see if there are events with your Chamber of Commerce, etc).

Good luck.

[shigusan]

Hey, nah I havn't passed all of that yet. Still going to take a few more years before I have all of the above. But im just interested to know. I wouldnt mind working for a few years in Japan in my related discipline but if the salary is less than 8 Million yen its not really worth it. As with a CFP and 3 years experience theres quite a lot of jobs in Australia with 80k AUD salary's. CFP work with a good firm around 80-150k. Anyway I guess only way to find out is to give a go in a few years time. I have no intention of living long term in Japan but a few years wouldn't hurt.

Thanks for the info though much appreciated.

[well_bicyclically]

What are the chances of securing a decent finance job paying 8 million + yen per year with all of the below.

JLPT N1
CFP (certified Financial Planner)
3 years experience in the field of FP
spouse visa in Japan.

Good chance?, or hard to get job? as most of the other posts on these forums seem to say.

seeing as you are so special, doors should open wide just for you!

[shigusan]

seeing as you are so special, doors should open wide just for you!

who said I was 'so special' :P im assuming your refering to my comment 'as most of the other posts on these forums seem to say.'. However the other posts always get replies such as "no fluent japanese then no chance", "get certification will make things easier for you", "living in japan already will be easier" such and such. "what have you got to offer that a Japanese person doesnt already have" - thus I merely showed what I'm aiming for.

No matter, I was expecting some pretty hardcore sarcasm when posting this :-P

[well_bicyclically]

who said I was 'so special' :P im assuming your refering to my comment 'as most of the other posts on these forums seem to say.'. However the other posts always get replies such as "no fluent japanese then no chance", "get certification will make things easier for you", "living in japan already will be easier" such and such. "what have you got to offer that a Japanese person doesnt already have" - thus I merely showed what I'm aiming for.

No matter, I was expecting some pretty hardcore sarcasm when posting this :-P

I hope I have exceeded your expectations!

[shigusan]

haha not really i was expecting atleast alot more people to have plenty witty comments. But guess all those trollers seem to have left GP or have stopped trolling for the time being. What can you do :P

[trip_hop]

I think people are tired of seeing the same type of post again and again, and are out of comments. They've said it all. And they cannot predict the future.

Try some other sites dedicated to financial animals such as the banker's ball, which are replete with witty repartee, caustic criticism, and virtually no smatterings of jealousy, as they all chase massive bonuses and benefits, or at least a share of the pie, or maybe that should be trough?

[shigusan]

I guess what im really interested in, is in the last 24 months or so. If anyone has actually landed themselves a job in this industry. Of atleast know of someone who has. And exactly if it was an epic mission or only somewhat difficulty. While I have gone back and read most of the witty comments and advice from all GP threads, I didn't actually find anyone giving first hand advice thats relevant in the last two years. I havn't done a full thorough search though, just scanned the surface using the search function.

So this leads me to believe that

a) it is indeed incredibly difficult to get a job in this industry in Japan at the present time or
b) there are not a lot of finance specialists on Gaijinpot who have had to get themselves a new job within the last 24 months.

Either way it doesnt look that great in terms of if I wish to be a prospective employee for a Japanese firm. Its probably better I use my skills I gain in Australia. Anyway we'll see how I go.

Thanks for your inputs though. Witty or not :P

[well_bicyclically]

why not just take "NO" for an answer, and go back to kangaroo jacking.

[shigusan]

why not just take "NO" for an answer, and go back to kangaroo jacking.

Thanks for your very useful input. :-P

[well_bicyclically]

... I have no intention of living long term in Japan but a few years wouldn't hurt.....

you would not be hired in Japan for this reason.

if you can get an (Aussie) bank to transfer you here temporarily, then you would be good to go.

[shigusan]

Thanks for actually providing something objective. How long do the Japanese company's actually expect you to work for them. I mean assuming I plan to spend a good 5 years working for one, is this deemed 'too short'?. I know obviously I would need to commit a significantly longer amount of time than a simple 1 year contract with an ecc school, considering additional training and the requirements for the finance industry in Japan.

How long are the actual contracts working for these financial firms in Japan?

[JCB]

Chances are reasonable I would say that you could get that kind of money.

[schroeder]

What are the chances of securing a decent finance job paying 8 million + yen per year with all of the below.

JLPT N1
CFP (certified Financial Planner)
3 years experience in the field of FP
spouse visa in Japan.

Good chance?, or hard to get job? as most of the other posts on these forums seem to say.

The only way to find out for sure is to try. Plenty have been said in previous posts about this. Everyone is different and just because lots of people say it's hard, doesn't mean it will be hard for you.

Dress well, be professional and good luck.

[Anonfornow]

The only way to find out for sure is to try. Plenty have been said in previous posts about this. Everyone is different and just because lots of people say it's hard, doesn't mean it will be hard for you.

Dress well, be professional and good luck.

Im that very person. 4 months into my job at IB IN Tokyo...
No degree
No J skills
base of 12 million.

ANYTHING is possible. NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK. HARD WORK & TIMING.. gl
No grudge against the highly educated BUT at the end of the day it's how YOU apply yourself. Majority of people who work for me are highly educated, would I employ them. NOT A FECKING CHANCE !.. (too blinkered)..
I await the heat - LOL

[Jakebullet]

What are the chances of securing a decent finance job paying 8 million + yen per year with all of the below.

JLPT N1
CFP (certified Financial Planner)
3 years experience in the field of FP
spouse visa in Japan.

Good chance?, or hard to get job? as most of the other posts on these forums seem to say.

Finding a job shouldnt be hard if you have all this. As you said though you dont right now and may take a couple of years. If you want the 8 mill a year it is possible but you will have to work hard in a financial advisory company or a headhunting shop. You can make your money there! They can make a packet but they have to work hard for it.

If you havent got your CFP yet don't bother. Get a CFA and go into finance I would suggest. I guess I might get trolled for suggesting it though.

[shigusan]

Finding a job shouldnt be hard if you have all this. As you said though you dont right now and may take a couple of years. If you want the 8 mill a year it is possible but you will have to work hard in a financial advisory company or a headhunting shop. You can make your money there! They can make a packet but they have to work hard for it.

If you havent got your CFP yet don't bother. Get a CFA and go into finance I would suggest. I guess I might get trolled for suggesting it though.

Hey, thanks for your input. In particular I don't really want to become an analyst the hours are way too long, and id rather not become a pet that works as a slave for an associate who in turns works for a vp who makes all the money :P I am aware that a CFA will make a great deal more money in general as an employee of a company though. But apart from that I like the role as a planner as i can steer people in the right direction for those who don't have the technical knowledge to do it themselves. Anyway still a few more years till im done with my studies, im just working on doing my masters as the moment. I'm not too reliant on the the upfront money in the event that I do decide that I want to spend a decade or so in Japan as i'm not 20 fresh out of uni, and thus don't really have a short time frame to find a job like a lot of other newcomers to Japan, I could easily head to Japan and stay a few years until I land myself a good job with self funding (how long i stay though would definitely depend on the opportunity cost of searching for a job verses the loss of potential income i could of gained as a CFP in Australia though).

I'm pretty confident that in the event that I do go to Japan I can get my hands on a decent position paying a bit of money. I'm quite well experienced in the field of business, and have a very professional attitude, but I guess theres only one way to find out :P - head there and try for myself. As someone else said, just cos some people find it incredibly hard doesn't meant it will be incredibly hard for me. This kind of industry i assume is definitely more of a case-by-case basis, rather than the hoards who flock to Japan to teach english for a year.

Thanks for your input though :-)