Who's a 'Flyjin'?

[what's it to you ?]

Don't get me wrong, you are a tit, bit you are not a rockspider like monkeyweakpenis..

I just had a few cones and umm..I got it now. Good point.
Thanks for sharing. Can I just suggest.... that your _____ is not your enemy. Don't fight it. Liberation awaits you.
Bless.

Wow - peeeenis is censored on Gaijin pot. Things are worse than I realised. What the FUUCK is wrong with this SHITHOLE? ____-ME!

[what's it to you ?]

Your defense stance is understandable in a preventative measure. Shut up though and live alone with the guilt you feel.

The willows shall sway forth and do so as it is the means of gonadic twang. Come hither horned toaster and seer the crumb!

[what's it to you ?]

And evidence in defense of our arguments...? Well... Can't be arced educating people who clearly are from the wrong stock.

arced? You mince a mean metaphor baby! groove!

[what's it to you ?]

live

I like this. It's zen and I think it draws both sides of the debate into a common thread - entwining us all. Genius.

[thefan]

You gonna pay me?

Just as I thought- You're Blowin it OUT YOUR ARSE.....poor show.

pay you to find out something you want to know?

[what's it to you ?]

pay you to find out something you want to know?

No, I just want to know if you made that up in post 383. It's not the information itself that interests me.
I want you admit that you made that statement up to suit your argument. That's all.
You had a go at the flight crew on BA. Shouldn't you show some reason?

[kuri]

Wow, what a hero! You deserve a g***amn medal, or at least a pat on the back. Having the presence of mind in a situation like this to abandon whatever responsibilities you have here so that others can have more "electricity/resources" is truly a commendable, selfless - even heroic - act.

wot responsibilities r u referring to apart from family which i dont have in Japan? freeing up resources for others to use is a responsible thing to do. more responsible than sitting whinging about those who left (which is not only or mainly gaijin btw). Use that whinging time to deal with all those pressing "responsibilities" that you must have in Tokyo.
I have nothing against those who stayed, everyone has their reasons. Whingers and finger pointers, get a fukin life.

[cornedbeefkarma]

From my understanding I can only conclude that the likes of you have failed to make a decisive decision one way or the other - to leave or stay.

Your understanding is very poor then, because I, like 99.9% of the other people in Tokyo have already made a "decisive decision" to stay as there is no reason to leave!

And you are coping with this inner conflict by resorting to a common psychological defense - called denial. It goes like this:
If you conclude that leavers have made a rational decision and have taken themselves out of harms way then it reasonably follows that you yourself have made an irrational decision and you remain in harms way.

In denial about what exactly? Wouldn't I have to be in some sort of danger to be in denial? Your attempts at psychology are laughable. If you laugh at someone who runs away from a child with a water pistol then that is only because you yourself are in denial about your own fear of children with water pistols! The only tiny flaw in this theory is that, well, water pistols are not dangerous so there is no reason to be afraid of them. There has been no reason to be afraid of radiation in Tokyo and well, the vast majority of people, unlike you, aren't afraid of it. With your Junior High School cod psycho-analysis skills you should be able to get your head around that!

Hey, why aren't you taking measures against being abducted by vampire aliens? Uh-oh, looks like you are in denial!

It is therefore in your interest to conclude that "flyjin" are irrational cowards. This protects you from facing your own fear which would in itself be rational (see the irony?)
This has been the only motivation I can identify for anyone to indulge in this silly act of finger pointing and labeling.

I'll give you another motivation: because it is quite amusing. Seeing people panic in itself is not so amusing but seeing the subsequent tying themselves in knots of self-justification and trying to boast about their martial arts skills and the internet "beatings" they have been dishing out has been hilarious. A much needed tonic in the awful days following the devastating earthquake and tsunami.

Further, I am not going to try reasoning with the likes of you - because you are essentially in denial which by its nature makes reasoning pointless.

I am certainly glad that you are going to give up reasoning. I think it is often a good thing when people decide to give up things they are obviously just not very good at.

[twelvedown]

Man, There were like NO gaijin in Tokyo today. I was all over (not shibuya but Asakusa etc) and there was barely a honky to be seen! It was great!

It will be interesting....I was talking to my buddy who's with one of the big Japnese banks and I asked him if there would be some sort of reckoning for the business people, embassy staff etc who fled and he shook his head and did that Japanese intake of breath and said " Oh, Yes, I am afraid that may be the case" meaning " yeah, you can put the mothering house on that."

I wasn't even here at the time by the way so I ain't judging....
.....except to say those who fled are a bunch of ill-informed hysterical cowards with zero loyalty to Japan.

[Jakebullet]

I just had a few cones and umm..I got it now. Good point.
Thanks for sharing. Can I just suggest.... that your _____ is not your enemy. Don't fight it. Liberation awaits you.
Bless.

Wow - peeeenis is censored on Gaijin pot. Things are worse than I realised. What the FUUCK is wrong with this SHITHOLE? ____-ME!

The willows shall sway forth and do so as it is the means of gonadic twang. Come hither horned toaster and seer the crumb!

arced? You mince a mean metaphor baby! groove!

I like this. It's zen and I think it draws both sides of the debate into a common thread - entwining us all. Genius.

Keep your obsessions to yourself.

[Jakebullet]

Your verbage may make you feel good, but is lost on me. I get that you're aim is to insult - but not much more, sorry.

Well, what I was trying to say was nobody really cares that you are a flyjin except you, because you keep trying to defend you seem hell bent on defending what you did. Just leave it alone.

You are a bore.

[Otokichi]

Man, There were like NO gaijin in Tokyo today. I was all over (not shibuya but Asakusa etc) and there was barely a honky to be seen! It was great!

Based on work colleagues, I would think gaijin numbers in Tokyo have recovered quite substantially compared to, say, two and a half weeks back. The majority have now returned, though there are still some holdouts in HK and Sydney of which I'm aware.

However, in saying that, I was out partying in Ebisu and Nishi-Azabu on Friday night, and gaijin numbers are still very thin on the ground

[trip_hop]

Visited my local hair/ make salon over the weekend, the manager was both pleasantly surprised and quite concerned, he'd heard that all the foreigners had left Japan, and he himself had not seen a foreigner for a couple of weeks. Explained that some were required to go by their bosses, e.g. banksters and expat execs; some had children whom they were concerned about; a few were worried from the sensationalist media reporting, but most of the long-term residents who actually lived here were staying.

His biggest complaint was that he and his friends had all lost a substantial amount of money with the collapse of the value of TEPCO shares, seems they all belonged to a local investment club. Suggested he look out for construction and housing companies in Tohuku...

[what's it to you ?]

Well, what I was trying to say was nobody really cares that you are a flyjin except you, because you keep trying to defend you seem hell bent on defending what you did. Just leave it alone.

Very good, but I don;t fit the category - "flyjin" -sorry to take the steam out of your central point.

You are a bore.

Oh you're sore aren't you? So I'm a bore now! Well I've entertained you enough to keep replying!

[what's it to you ?]

Keep your obsessions to yourself.

Well that's up to you....why don't you put me on ignore. No difference to me!

[what's it to you ?]

Your understanding is very poor then, because I, like 99.9% of the other people in Tokyo have already made a "decisive decision" to stay as there is no reason to leave!



In denial about what exactly? Wouldn't I have to be in some sort of danger to be in denial? Your attempts at psychology are laughable. If you laugh at someone who runs away from a child with a water pistol then that is only because you yourself are in denial about your own fear of children with water pistols! The only tiny flaw in this theory is that, well, water pistols are not dangerous so there is no reason to be afraid of them. There has been no reason to be afraid of radiation in Tokyo and well, the vast majority of people, unlike you, aren't afraid of it. With your Junior High School cod psycho-analysis skills you should be able to get your head around that!

Hey, why aren't you taking measures against being abducted by vampire aliens? Uh-oh, looks like you are in denial!



I'll give you another motivation: because it is quite amusing. Seeing people panic in itself is not so amusing but seeing the subsequent tying themselves in knots of self-justification and trying to boast about their martial arts skills and the internet "beatings" they have been dishing out has been hilarious. A much needed tonic in the awful days following the devastating earthquake and tsunami.



I am certainly glad that you are going to give up reasoning. I think it is often a good thing when people decide to give up things they are obviously just not very good at.

I just skimmed this response. Seems you still don't get it, and it doesn't look like you will. No matter really. Why do you keep posting ?

[Jakebullet]

Very good, but I don;t fit the category - "flyjin" -sorry to take the steam out of your central point.



Oh you're sore aren't you? So I'm a bore now! Well I've entertained you enough to keep replying!

Pffft....fool

[Jakebullet]

I just skimmed this response. Seems you still don't get it, and it doesn't look like you will. No matter really. Why do you keep posting ?

Just quit while you are behind. Your ill fated thread was obviously a complete disaster that has been no help to anyone. Are you this lame in real life? You must be a translator right???

[FrostbiteFalls]

Does it sound like many of them are going to be coming back? As an aspiring living-in-Tokyoer, I've got to say the prospect sounds pretty nice! For those of you still there: don't worry, I'll try not to get in your way.

[Jakebullet]

Does it sound like many of them are going to be coming back? As an aspiring living-in-Tokyoer, I've got to say the prospect sounds pretty nice! For those of you still there: don't worry, I'll try not to get in your way.

A lot are not coming back and yes the prospects are good. Get your CV out there NOW!

[zzz]

Does it sound like many of them are going to be coming back? As an aspiring living-in-Tokyoer, I've got to say the prospect sounds pretty nice! For those of you still there: don't worry, I'll try not to get in your way.

You know, Japan is already 98.5% Japanese. There are few if any (North Korea only, maybe) more racially homogenous places on Earth. At the beginning, as a foreigner living in Japan, that can be cool... but after living here a few years you really start to miss and thoroughly appreciate all the wonders of cultural and racial diversity. So I for one am saddened by the fact that we're going to have less foreigners here.

[what's it to you ?]

Just quit while you are behind. Your ill fated thread was obviously a complete disaster that has been no help to anyone. Are you this lame in real life? You must be a translator right???

Whooa! Settle down! Now you're responding to replies directed at other posters.
I thought I was boring you! Seems you can't get enough!

[what's it to you ?]

Just quit while you are behind. Your ill fated thread was obviously a complete disaster that has been no help to anyone. Are you this lame in real life? You must be a translator right???

First, this isn't my thread. Second- my aim is not really to help anyone. You read to much into everything and fail to read what is in front of you carefully enough.

[spacetiger]

I just skimmed this response. Seems you still don't get it, and it doesn't look like you will. No matter really. Why do you keep posting ?

You're the guy who's scared of JetStar & loves Sea Shepherd, aren't you? You must be rapt that one of your Watermelons (Green on the outside, Red on the inside) got elected to the Senate in NSW.

[Jakebullet]

First, this isn't my thread. Second- my aim is not really to help anyone. You read to much into everything and fail to read what is in front of you carefully enough.

Thats right. yours was the other pissy thread about flyjin.

[what's it to you ?]

You're the guy who's scared of JetStar & loves Sea Shepherd, aren't you? You must be rapt that one of your Watermelons (Green on the outside, Red on the inside) got elected to the Senate in NSW.

Here's another one reading too much into things!
Jetstar is a bit off topic - but will mention a little update for your benefit (since you care) - recent news is that even the pilots are afraid of Jetstar these days...but hey, what would they know! Just ask a Gaijin ! LOL

Amazing!

[what's it to you ?]

Thats right. yours was the other pissy thread about flyjin.

That's right. Well done.

[what's it to you ?]

A lot are not coming back and yes the prospects are good. Get your CV out there NOW!

Hey - Ever find yourself wanting to appear more knowledgeable?
Easy, just make stuff up.

Love it! Careers advice....what did "they" tell you "they" weren't coming back or something?...whoever "they" are.!

[Andun]

Foreigners have different stakes

By FRANCESCO FORMICONI
Tokyo

I totally agree with R. Gurumurthy (“Bad habit of judging foreigners,” April 10 letter) since I was living in Hong Kong at the time of the SARS epidemic, and Japanese expatriates were the first ones to flee town and the last ones to come back. The difference was that people in Hong Kong welcomed back the expatriates after SARS, because they realized that foreign managers and investors bring wealth and opportunities, while in Japan they seem to be tolerated at best.

I didn't leave Japan in recent weeks because Japan is the place where I have decided to live, but I can understand that for expatriates who stay in Japan for a limited time, there is no point in taking unnecessary risks. I think the Japanese had better distinguish between the two groups and maybe grant semi-citizen rights to those who call Japan their home.

[Tokoton]

who's a fluckin' flyjin?

Nope. Not me. I'm fine where I am.

[Effected After]

I was the Flyjin. It was a great time. But now I'm just a lowly back-in-Japanjin.

[cornedbeefkarma]

Interesting article about the returning flyjin here:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...249128570.html

It will be interesting to see how long the returned flyjin will keep up this bleating about loving their families so goddamed much as an excuse for turning and running as fast as their little legs could carry them.

[なるほど]

Interesting article about the returning flyjin here:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...249128570.html

It will be interesting to see how long the returned flyjin will keep up this bleating about loving their families so goddamed much as an excuse for turning and running as fast as their little legs could carry them.

This was posted by steki47 (post #19) when it first came out almost a month ago, when the term was first coined. Not sure how you missed that.

This morning's read:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...DS=japan+tokyo

"Flyjin" is in paragraph three.

[cornedbeefkarma]

This was posted by steki47 (post #19) when it first came out almost a month ago, when the term was first coined. Not sure how you missed that.

Realised it was an old article but I didn't know it had been posted before. Must have just not clicked on the link back then.

[Tokoton]

I was the Flyjin. It was a great time. But now I'm just a lowly back-in-Japanjin.

Why did you come back?

[Ken44]

I was the Flyjin. It was a great time. But now I'm just a lowly back-in-Japanjin.

I was an "already-out-of-the-country-postponed-my-return flightjin" and had a great time as well.

Alas I too am now just another lowly back-in-Japanjin but my semester has started off on a good note so that`s nice.

[Effected After]

Why did you come back?

Because I like it here.

[Tokoton]

Because I like it here.

Yeah, I get that.

What I meant was, what has changed since you left and came back? I remember reading that you left because you feared for your family's safety. You do not anymore?

[Effected After]

I left because I had no clear information on whether there was a risk or not. Watch from afar. I've decided the risk looks pritty minimal for now. Still watching though.

[Tokoton]

1. Do you think you have contributed to a negative image of foreigners in Japan?

2. Do you think you still have the right to speak your mind on anything Japanese?

3. Do you think people around you will see you as a tourist, not citizen anymore?

4. Do you think you should have stayed and help those in need instead of run?