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  • Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
    "There are 1535 unusable fuel rods in THAT storage, all together there are 11.825 according to Tepco on the 23. April 2012 (which have to be cooled) and then removed for safe storage. You need to remember that storage for nuclear waste is even without Fukushima and Earthquakes a completely unsolved problem! ...

    So – you are saying that there is no way to store unusable fuel rods and nuclear waste? I donft think that is the case. As after all, they are in storage at this very moment. Hyperbole maybe?

    Please help us out here – as surely you know your methods better than we. Could you please add to this definition of your namesake method?

    Anamophism: characterized by - overstatement, hysteria, irrationalism, fear mongering, hyperbole, reliance upon dubious sources, out of hand rejection of anything official

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    • Originally posted by TJrandom View Post
      .... Could you please add to this definition of your namesake method?

      Anamophism: characterized by - overstatement, hysteria, irrationalism, fear mongering, hyperbole, reliance upon dubious sources, out of hand rejection of anything official
      you can add: down-right pigheaded, stubborn, unsympathetic, unhelpful, vicious, and mean!

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      • Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
        "There are 1535 unusable fuel rods in THAT storage, all together there are 11.825 according to Tepco on the 23. April 2012 (which have to be cooled) and then removed for safe storage. You need to remember that storage for nuclear waste is even without Fukushima and Earthquakes a completely unsolved problem!

        The fuel rods are 4 meters long and weigh...... 300 kilo each! This means the weight that rests on the 4th floor of a ruin is 460 tons!!!!

        Should this collapse and the 1535 fall to the ground, they cannot be cooled, because the immediate radiation will be so strong that no one can get anywhere near it. (Except specialists like Kurogane and his friends)
        You figure out the short term consequences for Tohoku, Tokyo and the Pacific ocean. Don't even think about long term...."

        This is the reality that Kuragane and the other Tokyoites would rather not think about. 300kgs each!!! Thats crazy.

        A building collapse will do wonders for southern hemisphere real estate prices!
        OH GREAT WISE ALL SEEEING LEADER OF US ALL ANAMORPHIC
        PLEASE GUIDE US IN OUR TIME OF NEED
        THE DISASTER IS UPON US
        THE SKY IS FALLING
        THE NUCLEAR FIRES ARE BURNING
        PLEASE TELL US YOUR PLAN

        So, sh!t for brains, since you know everthing and your such a super genius, tell us your plan. And it better not be bend over and kiss your a/ss goodbye because you're all fukked!

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        • Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
          Hey I read some of Federer's posts. Full of shvte he was!
          You don't say
          Sorry though buddy. I have never done this before, but I have to put you on ignore. I tried in many ways to help to quell your fears, you know, keep you grounded to help you spend your time a little more wisely. My pappy told me "A wise man knows when to walk away because...

          sometimes you just can't fix stupid."

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          • Originally posted by edin“ú–{ View Post
            OH GREAT WISE ALL SEEEING LEADER OF US ALL ANAMORPHIC
            PLEASE GUIDE US IN OUR TIME OF NEED
            THE DISASTER IS UPON US
            THE SKY IS FALLING
            THE NUCLEAR FIRES ARE BURNING
            PLEASE TELL US YOUR PLAN

            So, sh!t for brains, since you know everthing and your such a super genius, tell us your plan. And it better not be bend over and kiss your a/ss goodbye because you're all fukked!
            We need an international intervention to make this issue *the* number 1 global environmental issue. TEPCO didnt even *weld* the tanks that are now leaking. TEPCO simply cant do it. Redirect your anger, not at me, but at the authorities that allow the entire future of Tohoku to rest in the balance.

            The nuclear industry, by downplaying the severity of the issue and leaving it in the hands of TEPCO rather than having an international, global effort places at risk the northern hemisphere. Better to downplay and cross the fingers than draw attention and admit the crisis.
            Last edited by Anamorphic; 2013-09-15, 01:34 PM.

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            • " You foreigners could never understand Japan and us Japanese, because you are not Japanese" !

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              • Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
                We need an international intervention to make this issue *the* number 1 global environmental issue. TEPCO didnt even *weld* the tanks that are now leaking. TEPCO simply cant do it. Redirect your anger, not at me, but at the authorities that allow the entire future of Tohoku to rest in the balance.

                The nuclear industry, by downplaying the severity of the issue and leaving it in the hands of TEPCO rather than having an international, global effort places at risk the northern hemisphere. Better to downplay and cross the fingers than draw attention and admit the crisis.
                http://isarrualde.com/blog/wp-conten...t-crisis11.jpg

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                • Just as a follow-up to my concrete cube discussion, I've concluded that there is no sustainable plan that is presently being executed. I can only conclude that the real plan is to hold the coolant in storage for a while until some of the radioactivity dies down, then they will dilute it with sea water, and then they will simply dump it into the ocean. They will make an argument that the radioactivity falls under some sort of arbitrary limit...and, that will be that. I am not a biologist, so I cannot predict the consequences for the ocean biosphere, but it might not be as bad as one might think.

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                  • Originally posted by John Grey View Post
                    Tepco did strengthen the pillars, but there are pictures from the air where you can that this is a ruin.
                    The question is, how strong does the earthquake have to be to bring it down. Most suggestions are around size 7....

                    Storing them on the fourth floor is but another example of the wisdom of the Tepco specialists, who also gave us the leaking water containers, because they were cheaper than the sealed ones. All the walls on the fourth floor of #4 reactor have been blown away by the explosion.... everything from there on up was completely blown away....

                    There are 1535 unusable fuel rods in THAT storage, all together there are 11.825 according to Tepco on the 23. April 2012 (which have to be cooled) and then removed for safe storage. You need to remember that storage for nuclear waste is even without Fukushima and Earthquakes a completely unsolved problem!

                    The fuel rods are 4 meters long and weigh...... 300 kilo each! This means the weight that rests on the 4th floor of a ruin is 460 tons!!!!

                    Should this collapse and the 1535 fall to the ground, they cannot be cooled, because the immediate radiation will be so strong that no one can get anywhere near it. (Except specialists like Kurogane and his friends)
                    You figure out the short term consequences for Tohoku, Tokyo and the Pacific ocean. Don't even think about long term....
                    Any chance of a credible link? It might be true but I need a bit more than "A guy on the internet said.." before I believe it.

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                    • Originally posted by Brown Cow View Post
                      Any chance of a credible link? It might be true but I need a bit more than "A guy on the internet said.." before I believe it.
                      Kind of strange this asking John Grey for a link, yet on another thread you are telling Anamorphic not to post links ! John boy is a more reliable poster than Anamorphic, so what gives. . In my opinion every one should always provide links !

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                      • Originally posted by TheHotCondom View Post
                        Kind of strange this asking John Grey for a link, yet on another thread you are telling Anamorphic not to post links ! John boy is a more reliable poster than Anamorphic, so what gives. . In my opinion every one should always provide links !

                        You do tend to see things in very absolute terms - Is that your military background?

                        Yes, of course, as a rule, people should post their sources if they make assertions of "new" fact otherwise I am disinclined to believe them.

                        However, Amamorphic is an exception. Having had experience of the kind of links he comes up with, I'd rather he didn't bother. His revelations can almost always be safely dismissed out of hand.

                        So there it is. A rule and an exception to that rule. Life is like that sometimes.

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                        • Originally posted by Majestic View Post
                          Yes, if you exclude the Austrian who was masquerading as a German while butchering a large part of the world in the first half of the last century. The Americans helped you Europeans out of that mess. You are welcome. And of course you have to conveniently shut your eyes to the genocide that was going on in the Balkans by some of your fellow Europeans. The US helped you out of that mess as well - and again, you are welcome.
                          Well, in WW2 the US only got involved because of their own interests and even watched the Japanese butcher their own people to justify that. How heroic!

                          Not to mention that all the (unintentionally) good things the US did is next to nothing compared to all the crap they are responsible for.

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                          • Originally posted by TheEngineer View Post
                            Well, in WW2 the US only got involved because of their own interests and even watched the Japanese butcher their own people to justify that. How heroic!

                            Not to mention that all the (unintentionally) good things the US did is next to nothing compared to all the crap they are responsible for.
                            TheFG rides again?

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                            • I'm sorry The Engineer, I don't know what you are talking about. I was responding to John's implication that Europeans were so morally superior that they would never dream of slaughtering their neighbors.

                              However, since you asked (?); if you dust off your history books, you'll find that the world was quite upset that Japan was running roughshod over China in the 30s. The world, through the League of Nations (a noble, well-meaning, but unfortunately ineffectual organization), protested. What ended up happening was that Japan left the League of Nations and continued to run roughshod over China. So much for pacifism as a strategy against fascism. Anyway, the US took the somewhat stronger, but still arguably humane decision, of cutting off certain supplies to Japan. And the rest, they say, is history. As to your claim that the US watched as the Japanese butchered their own people... I simply have nothing to add to that story. Its fantastical enough by itself.

                              As to your claim that all the good things done by the US failing to compensate for all the crap that the US has done - again, its certainly an interesting opinion. I'm sure there are many keen minds on this forum which share that view.

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                              • Originally posted by Brown Cow View Post
                                TheFG rides again?
                                Off topic I know but forgive me...whatever happened to that pussy hiding little punk Hisa?

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