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  • #31
    Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
    This is interesting... Fascism in action!
    Never mind that. Please clarify your position and answer my question. Are you fearful of GM food because it is:

    1. Dangerous to health and/or
    2. A conspiracy by the Global Illumuniati to control our minds and/or
    3. Controlled by a monopoly supplier and/or
    3. Immoral/and or against God's will

    At the moment I can't work out what it is you actually have against GM food. You take it as a given that it is a BAD THING. But why?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Brown Cow View Post
      Never mind that. Please clarify your position and answer my question. Are you fearful of GM food because it is:

      1. Dangerous to health and/or
      2. A conspiracy by the Global Illumuniati to control our minds and/or
      3. Controlled by a monopoly supplier and/or
      3. Immoral/and or against God's will

      At the moment I can't work out what it is you actually have against GM food. You take it as a given that it is a BAD THING. But why?
      The same reason as most countries including those in Europe, where there are NO commercial GMO crops...

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      • #33
        That is no answer, meaning that you personally do not know what you are against !

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
          The same reason as most countries including those in Europe, where there are NO commercial GMO crops...
          What's your answer?

          Actually what you claim isn't true (fancy that) a GM maize (MON 810) and a GM strain of potatoes called Amflora are approved for cultivation in the EU and about six countries are growing them commercially. Pretty much everyone is allowing the product to be imported even if they ban the growing of it.

          The main fears in Europe seem to be:

          1. Genetic flow into other crops which can be managed through regulation
          2. Objections from other agricultural producers. In the case of the maize, beekeepers claim that the crop damages the bee population along with the maize borer population. Although there is no good evidence for that, small farmers have a huge political influence in some countries.

          You are aware, aren't you, of things like the potato famine in Ireland. Developing crops which are resistant to disease and pests is hardly a bad idea.

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          • #35
            I meant for human consumption...Amflora is not for human consumption (used for paper) and has very limited coverage. MON 810 has been banned in many EU countries due to environmental concerns, and is primarily used in animal feed...

            So basically, GMO crops grown for human consumption in the EU are minimal. Rejected by the people of the EU and relegated to a minor role in animal feed and industrial apps...

            But, back in the States, there is enough GMO goodness to go around!

            So hey, dig in to the GMOs, drink the fluoride and give your kids all the vaccinations! Your choice.

            GMOs have been universally rejected in the EU. Nobody wants them. This is demonstrated in the abysmal public opinion surrounding the issue and the severe restrictions on their use in the EU.
            Last edited by Anamorphic; 2013-09-11, 10:49 PM.

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            • #36
              But back to the topic of this thread, Fukushima:


              http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98A0HX20130911

              Reuters: Radiation levels spike at Fukushima nuclear plant \ 15 times higher than on Sunday at same location \ Tepco still wants to dump in Pacific

              Tritium levels spike at stricken Fukushima nuclear plant

              [...] 64,000 becquerels per liter on Tuesday from 4,200 becquerels/liter at the same location on Sunday. [...]

              A Tepco representative told reporters on Wednesday [it] could not rule out the possibility that last monthfs leak had contaminated the groundwater. [...]

              [This] threatens to scuttle Tepcofs plans to build a bypass to route groundwater away from the plant and release it into the Pacific [...]

              Tepco Vice President Zengo Aizawa stressed the importance of the bypass on Wednesday [...]

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
                I meant for human consumption...Amflora is not for human consumption (used for paper) and has very limited coverage. MON 810 has been banned in many EU countries due to environmental concerns, and is primarily used in animal feed...

                So basically, GMO crops grown for human consumption in the EU are minimal. Rejected by the people of the EU and relegated to a minor role in animal feed and industrial apps...

                But, back in the States, there is enough GMO goodness to go around!

                So hey, dig in to the GMOs, drink the fluoride and give your kids all the vaccinations! Your choice.

                GMOs have been universally rejected in the EU. Nobody wants them. This is demonstrated in the abysmal public opinion surrounding the issue and the severe restrictions on their use in the EU.
                Madmax, how old is your information?
                From:
                http://www.basf.com/group/corporate/.../amflora/story

                "The Amflora potato variety recently received European approval and commercial cultivation will begin in 2010. This makes it the first genetically modified crop to receive this approval in the EU since 1998. An application has also been filed for the food and feed approval of Amflora, to allow the pulp to be used in animal feeding. Prior to this, Amflora was tested for several years as part of field tests in various locations in Europe. The crop was studied in detail in terms of its yield, nutrients, the composition of the tuber and environmental impact. The results were clear: the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) repeatedly concluded that Amflora is just as safe for people, animals and the environment as any conventional starch potato."

                Why won't you show all that you have learned by your consistent posts and answer the questions instead of simply copy/pasting numerous articles?

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                • #38
                  Just saw a cool little section in News Japan about one Nashi farmer in Fukushima-ken, and his struggle with ensuring radiation doesnt affect his livelyhood. 34million yen worth of topsoil removal and replacement with clean soil, tree cleaning etc (covered by govermnent)

                  He was worried that the soil replacement would change the flavour of the pears, but they came out sweeter than expectations. And of course he had them tested... 0.83bq/kg (a number that until recently wasnt even measurable. Of course that number is enough to make panic merchants claim they would cause instant cancers, but being less than 1/100th of Japan's food radiation limits (less than a thousandth of EU/US limits), i wouldnt think twice about eating them. They looked delicious!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Anamorphic View Post
                    But back to the topic of this thread, Lunacy:

                    .....


                    Tritium levels spike at stricken Fukushima nuclear plant

                    ....
                    yea, we really cannot abide all that extra hydrogen in the environment. It is so unnatural...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by tokyo_dom View Post
                      Just saw a cool little section in News Japan about one Nashi farmer in Fukushima-ken, and his struggle with ensuring radiation doesnt affect his livelyhood. 34million yen worth of topsoil removal and replacement with clean soil, tree cleaning etc (covered by govermnent)

                      He was worried that the soil replacement would change the flavour of the pears, but they came out sweeter than expectations. And of course he had them tested... 0.83bq/kg (a number that until recently wasnt even measurable. Of course that number is enough to make panic merchants claim they would cause instant cancers, but being less than 1/100th of Japan's food radiation limits (less than a thousandth of EU/US limits), i wouldnt think twice about eating them. They looked delicious!
                      I agree. But according to Madmazx here, ANY number above 0.000 causes us to hack up a lung, our eyes to bug out, to grow a leg out of our ears, and our gonads to swell bigger than Fukushima-ken nashi.

                      See how he tried to bug out of the GMO issue, which BC schooled him on, with "back to the topic... Fukushima"?

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