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  • Refreshing & Uplifting; The Coke Side of Life

    * NZ male model-actor arrested over cocaine possession
    * The Price is Right

    NZ male model-actor arrested over cocaine possession
    CRIME JUL. 27, 2013 - 06:30AM JST

    TOKYO \
    A male model-actor from New Zealand who appears in TV commercials in Japan has been arrested on suspicion of cocaine possession.

    According to media reports, the suspect, identified as Kieran Price, 25, was stopped for a random search on the street in Tokyofs Roppongi district around the middle of this month. TV Asahi and the Yomiuri newspaper quoted police as saying that the suspect threw a plastic bag containing white powder away and tried to flee before being apprehended.

    An analysis of the bagfs contents showed it was cocaine, TV Asahi quoted police as saying.

    Japan Today
    When I mention the outrage against 'white profiling', please understand that I am referring to the vilification of cocaine.

    Last edited by NorthByNorthwest; 2013-07-31, 10:43 AM.

  • HibiyaLineLife
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    Bummer on the bust. People can kick and there is help in J-Land if one looks. Tokyo Cops can be annoying for sure. I got stopped on my bike over 15 times in three years.....

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  • Esoteric
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    Originally posted by paradoxbox View Post
    i believe cocaine is f*cked and i don't understand why anyone would do it.
    Because it feels f*cking great! But I've never done it in Japan, and never will, it's just not worth it. If I want to do drugs I'll go back home or visit a country where they are permitted.

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  • kurogane
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    Hard to disagree with any of that.

    BTW, I laugh at his stupidity, but not at his fate.

    Stupid people are there for entertainment, but that is not the same thing as actually enjoying the resulting ordeal he is subjected to.

    OTOH, I just reread the OP: Numptymate threw away the bag and tried to run, so not much danger of illegal search and seizure here.

    Whadda maroon.

    Still, it does help reinforce broader stereotypes of Kiwis, or at least, Kiwis in Japan.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by NorthByNorthwest View Post
    According to HAVOCSCOPE, Japan is #2 in the price of cocaine [second to Australia]:

    And if the price isn't outrageous enough the blow in Japan is crap so says rock star/drug expert Slash formerly of Guns and Roses.

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  • paradoxbox
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    i'm not debating whether or not cocaine possession is a stupid thing in a place like japan. i believe cocaine is f*cked and i don't understand why anyone would do it. and i believe that if you're caught with it, you deserve whatever you get.

    HOWEVER

    the law is there to protect people from police abuse. the law is important to protect us from the overreaching hands of the authorities. if we let them ignore the law whenever it's convenient for them, we're setting a dangerous precedent where police powers grow and grow until we've got nothing left.

    so while yes, being a cokehead and getting caught is definitely laughworthy, being caught using illegal tactics is no laughing matter. it must not be allowed. police must follow the rules.

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  • Old Style
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    Originally posted by Sterling View Post
    Mark L. Bronson: 1963 - 2007, former illustrious Partner of Skadden, Cocaine, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Tokyo

    "HIGH-flying" Tokyo Expat Dies From Apparent Cocaine OD
    But...but...'Coke Adds Life', does it not?

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  • kurogane
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    Bronson????

    Cocaine???

    Life imitates 'art'?????

    Death Wish?????






    Anybody else ever notice that Jeff Goldblum AND Freddie "Boom Boom" Washington are both in the original Death Wish?

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  • Sterling
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    Originally posted by Old Style View Post
    Thanks for the list! Just in time to plan our summer vacations!!!
    Mark L. Bronson: 1963 - 2007, former illustrious Partner of Skadden, Cocaine, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP, Tokyo

    "HIGH-flying" Tokyo Expat Dies From Apparent Cocaine OD
    Last edited by Sterling; 2013-08-18, 11:59 AM.

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  • Old Style
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    Originally posted by NorthByNorthwest View Post
    According to HAVOCSCOPE, Japan is #2 in the price of cocaine [second to Australia]:


    http://www.havocscope.com/black-mark...ocaine-prices/

    PRICE in U.S. DOLLARS
    1) Australia $300 per gram
    2) Japan $269.5 per gram
    3) Egypt $205.5 per gram
    4) Ukraine $189.6 per gram
    5) New Zealand $179.3 per gram
    6) United States $174.2 per gram
    7) Russia $174 per gram
    8) Moldova $155.4 per gram
    9) Norway $154.45 per gram
    10) Saudi Arabia $133.5 per gram
    11) Romania $132.5 per gram
    12) Estonia $127.2 per gram
    13) Iran $126.3 per gram
    14) Jordan $126.3 per gram
    15) Cyprus $119.2 per gram
    16) Philippines $119 per gram
    17) Pakistan $118.7 per gram
    18) Latvia $112.6 per gram
    19) Montenegro $111.2 per gram
    20) Sweden $110.6 per gram
    21) Greece $110.3 per gram
    22) China $106.9 per gram (Hong Kong)
    23) Finland $106 per gram
    24) Czech Republic $104.8 per gram
    25) Croatia $99.4 per gram
    26) Austria $97.3 per gram
    27) Indonesia $96.5 per gram
    28) Switzerland $95.6 per gram
    29) Bulgaria $94.9 per gram
    30) Ireland $92.7 per gram
    31) Italy $91.6 per gram
    32) Denmark $89.0 per gram
    33) Serbia $88.2 per gram
    34) Germany $86.9 per gram
    35) Thailand $86.0 per gram
    36) Canada $80.3 per gram
    37) Israel $80 per gram
    38) Zimbabwe $80 per gram (Crack)
    39) France $79.5 per gram
    40) Spain $79.5 per gram
    41) Albania $79.5 per gram
    42) Lithuania $78.9 per gram
    43) Turkey $78.2 per gram
    44) Hungary $72.1 per gram
    45) Belgium $67.1 per gram
    46) United Kingdom $61.5 per gram
    47) Portuga l$61.0 per gram
    48) Netherlands $58.7 per gram
    49) Cuba $56.7 per gram
    50) Poland $53.0 per gram
    51) Lebanon $40 per gram
    52) South Africa $32.7 per gram
    53) Nigeria $32.5 per gram
    54) Kenya $31.3 per gram
    55) El Salvador $24 per gram
    56) Paraguay $20 per gram
    57) Costa Rica $17 per gram
    58) Guatemala$13.3 per gram
    59) Brazil $12 per gram
    60) Haiti $10 per gram
    61) Chile $9.8 per gram
    62) Venezuela $9.3 per gram
    63) Honduras $9.2 per gram
    64) Dominican Republic $8 per gram
    65) Argentina $5.9 per gram
    66) Ecuador $5.0 per gram
    67) Peru $4.5 per gram
    68) Colombia $3.5 per gram
    69) Bolivia $3.5 per gram
    Thanks for the list! Just in time to plan our summer vacations!!!

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  • NorthByNorthwest
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    According to HAVOCSCOPE, Japan is #2 in the price of cocaine [second to Australia]:


    http://www.havocscope.com/black-mark...ocaine-prices/

    PRICE in U.S. DOLLARS
    1) Australia $300 per gram
    2) Japan $269.5 per gram
    3) Egypt $205.5 per gram
    4) Ukraine $189.6 per gram
    5) New Zealand $179.3 per gram
    6) United States $174.2 per gram
    7) Russia $174 per gram
    8) Moldova $155.4 per gram
    9) Norway $154.45 per gram
    10) Saudi Arabia $133.5 per gram
    11) Romania $132.5 per gram
    12) Estonia $127.2 per gram
    13) Iran $126.3 per gram
    14) Jordan $126.3 per gram
    15) Cyprus $119.2 per gram
    16) Philippines $119 per gram
    17) Pakistan $118.7 per gram
    18) Latvia $112.6 per gram
    19) Montenegro $111.2 per gram
    20) Sweden $110.6 per gram
    21) Greece $110.3 per gram
    22) China $106.9 per gram (Hong Kong)
    23) Finland $106 per gram
    24) Czech Republic $104.8 per gram
    25) Croatia $99.4 per gram
    26) Austria $97.3 per gram
    27) Indonesia $96.5 per gram
    28) Switzerland $95.6 per gram
    29) Bulgaria $94.9 per gram
    30) Ireland $92.7 per gram
    31) Italy $91.6 per gram
    32) Denmark $89.0 per gram
    33) Serbia $88.2 per gram
    34) Germany $86.9 per gram
    35) Thailand $86.0 per gram
    36) Canada $80.3 per gram
    37) Israel $80 per gram
    38) Zimbabwe $80 per gram (Crack)
    39) France $79.5 per gram
    40) Spain $79.5 per gram
    41) Albania $79.5 per gram
    42) Lithuania $78.9 per gram
    43) Turkey $78.2 per gram
    44) Hungary $72.1 per gram
    45) Belgium $67.1 per gram
    46) United Kingdom $61.5 per gram
    47) Portuga l$61.0 per gram
    48) Netherlands $58.7 per gram
    49) Cuba $56.7 per gram
    50) Poland $53.0 per gram
    51) Lebanon $40 per gram
    52) South Africa $32.7 per gram
    53) Nigeria $32.5 per gram
    54) Kenya $31.3 per gram
    55) El Salvador $24 per gram
    56) Paraguay $20 per gram
    57) Costa Rica $17 per gram
    58) Guatemala$13.3 per gram
    59) Brazil $12 per gram
    60) Haiti $10 per gram
    61) Chile $9.8 per gram
    62) Venezuela $9.3 per gram
    63) Honduras $9.2 per gram
    64) Dominican Republic $8 per gram
    65) Argentina $5.9 per gram
    66) Ecuador $5.0 per gram
    67) Peru $4.5 per gram
    68) Colombia $3.5 per gram
    69) Bolivia $3.5 per gram

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  • Esoteric
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    Originally posted by kurogane View Post
    He was carrying a bag of cocaine in Roppongi.
    Yeah. In Japan you should:

    A) Not carry cocaine.
    Or if you are determined to...
    B) Don't carry it in Roppongi

    The guy was probably too new to the country to realize how stupid his actions were. But if you don't know how a country works, then you should probably stick to point A.

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  • kurogane
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    Well said Ken.


    Originally posted by Esoteric View Post
    That's the theory, but do you have anything more on that? Has it ever happened in a trial? I wonder if the judge wouldn't place the value of social harmony (a non-drug society) over an individual's right to not be searched with no reason.
    Exactly. The theory. I am sure there have been cases of civil rights being protected from illegal searches and such, probably cases involving Japanese subjects, but given the innately conversative bias of most judges outside Osaka, you would have to be a fool to rely on that hope to get you out of a hole that you dug yourself. The whole civil iberties argument is deeply ethnocentric in its unwitting importation of Western bias.

    The guy was carrying a bag of cocaine in a highly policed area in Japan known for its drug trade. They once ruled the ban on the birth control pill consitutional because they argued it might negatively affect the birthrate. IOW, it wasn't unconstitutional to restrict an individual's reproductive choices because it was more important that they serve the needs of the nation. That is hardly a ruling that would suggest hope for a strict upholding of the formal constitution. The Japanese state is a moral agent (see Robert Smith), and Japanese courts are there to protect society and nation, not the individual, though it does happen as you noted.


    PB,

    These wiki references you mentioned: do any of them involve foreigners???

    Keep in mind that Japanese courts have ruled several times that foreigners, or non-Japanese, are not entitled to consitutional protections, though I believe those were immigration and refugee cases.

    At any rate, while I think the Japanese police do an excellent job in broader comparison and are mostly fine civil servants, if a bit clumsy at times, I fully agree with you from a civil liberties point of view, but it is very hard to feel any sympathy for this numpty they nabbed.

    He was carrying a bag of cocaine in Roppongi.


    What we really need to focus on is why so many antipodeans in Japan are such witless white bread numpties. It must be shocking to actual normal NZers and Australians who are used to the full range of non-idjits back at home.

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    We choose to live here and one of the unpleasant perks is not everyone is a fan of the gaijin.

    Now, all of the below might be true, but the fact remains J-authorities (like most everywhere) can make your life very miserable regardless of the law.

    A couple of gaijins get locked up based on an illegal search?

    So what?

    Good riddance.

    Like it or not we're basically second-class residents.


    Originally posted by paradoxbox View Post
    If you are stopped by the police for a random search you are not required to do anything. You are not required to comply with random searches. They are completely illegal.

    If they search you involuntarily without a valid reason (I.e. you were under legally justified surveillance and they caught you) and they find drugs the evidence will be thrown out at your trial as it would have been obtained by illegal means.

    The police are obliged to show proof of wrongdoing and you must be under reasonable suspicion of committing a crime for police to stop you.

    If police stop you without reason you have no reason to continue to talk to them. If they ask for your gaijin card or zairyu card just ask them why they think you're a foreigner just based on the color of your skin and tell them that you will be leaving the scene immediately if you're not under suspicion of a crime, and that if they obstruct you from leaving you will press charges. If the police officer pushes the issue I'd suggest calling a lawyer on the spot. You should also record any encounter with police and immediately notify them that you're recording them.

    Police attempting to take you into custody or attempting to search you without reasonable cause and without consent is illegal in Japan. You can sue.

    I absolutely loathe Japanese police and I have no problem telling them to f*ck off when necessary. They're not much better than the gestapo.

    Source: Japanese law
    http://www.houko.com/00/01/S23/136.HTM
    Last edited by Ken44; 2013-08-18, 01:54 AM.

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  • paradoxbox
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    There is precedent. See wikipedia. There are some cases from 2008-2010 where the exact scenario happened. Heads at the Tokyo Police rolled for their bungles.

    I would be surprised if they let this happen again, but then again maybe I wouldn't be, the Tokyo Police are morons that can't follow their own laws.

    See wiki for all of their idiotic mistakes. Things go downhill for them whenever someone with free time doesn't sign their forced confession paper. There's a reason they are fighting cameras in police stations so hard..

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