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    I have always submitted two tax forms for my visa extensions and they have always accepted them never saying that one of them wasn't needed.

    The [ŏؖ (Tax Paid Certificate. Always has the city tax and prefectural tax at the top) & the ېŐڏ (Tax Declaration Certificate. Has a breakdown of earned income, exemptions and deductions).

    However I believe technically only one of them is required for the visa extension. Specifically the tax paid certificate ([ŏؖ).

    Does anyone know which form it is exactly and if the same form or both of them are required for the PR application?

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    Originally posted by Japan 9.0 View Post
    I have always submitted two tax forms for my visa extensions and they have always accepted them never saying that one of them wasn't needed.

    The [ŏؖ (Tax Paid Certificate. Always has the city tax and prefectural tax at the top) & the ېŐڏ (Tax Declaration Certificate. Has a breakdown of earned income, exemptions and deductions).

    However I believe technically only one of them is required for the visa extension. Specifically the tax paid certificate ([ŏؖ).

    Does anyone know which form it is exactly and if the same form or both of them are required for the PR application?
    When I did mine they wanted both and they wanted them for the last three years (I'd only taken the most recent ones and just had my year-end tax statements and residents' tax payment receipts for the other years). You absolutely must have the [ŏؖ apparently but they asked for the ېŐڏ as well. I think it may depend on the immigration officer since whenever I've been they all seem to ask for something different. So anyway, I ended up paying 1,800 at the ward office for 6 tax documents altogether.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bella Bowtruckle View Post
      When I did mine they wanted both and they wanted them for the last three years (I'd only taken the most recent ones and just had my year-end tax statements and residents' tax payment receipts for the other years). You absolutely must have the [ŏؖ apparently but they asked for the ېŐڏ as well. I think it may depend on the immigration officer since whenever I've been they all seem to ask for something different. So anyway, I ended up paying 1,800 at the ward office for 6 tax documents altogether.
      Last three years? lol That's not normal. I've given just the previous year's [ŏؖ before. I even submitted just my 򒥎 before and they were cool with it. But they seem to have stepped things up a bit so I've been submitting both forms to give them no reason to have me return to city hall.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Japan 9.0 View Post
        Last three years? lol That's not normal. I've given just the previous year's [ŏؖ before. I even submitted just my 򒥎 before and they were cool with it. But they seem to have stepped things up a bit so I've been submitting both forms to give them no reason to have me return to city hall.
        I'm not sure if they're stepping things up or whether I just got unlucky this time when I went to renew my working visa, but the guy I saw wanted all kinds of things that I'd never needed before, including receipts for payment of this (last) year's resident tax bill which I hadn't even received yet, despite me taking in receipts for the previous three years. I'd never actually needed the [ŏؖ before since I had the actual receipts but this time I did, and wanting evidence of payment of a tax bill before one has actually received it seemed pretty damned unfair to me, especially when you can't really get angry.

        I got a different person for my PR application and she was actually much less nit-picky, in a way I might even say that the PR application was easier than the working visa. Nevertheless, even though I had my newly paid [ŏؖ etc. from this year from the ward office, and the actual receipts of payment of both residents' tax and income tax from the past three years, the lady still wanted the [ŏؖ for the previous 2 years as well and gave me an addressed envelope to put the documents in. As I said, I ended up spending a fair amount to get these documents. My own (totally unfounded) theory is that since I don't have to pay re-entry anymore they're trying to get me in other ways....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bella Bowtruckle View Post
          I'm not sure if they're stepping things up or whether I just got unlucky this time when I went to renew my working visa, but the guy I saw wanted all kinds of things that I'd never needed before, including receipts for payment of this (last) year's resident tax bill which I hadn't even received yet, despite me taking in receipts for the previous three years. I'd never actually needed the [ŏؖ before since I had the actual receipts but this time I did, and wanting evidence of payment of a tax bill before one has actually received it seemed pretty damned unfair to me, especially when you can't really get angry.

          I got a different person for my PR application and she was actually much less nit-picky, in a way I might even say that the PR application was easier than the working visa. Nevertheless, even though I had my newly paid [ŏؖ etc. from this year from the ward office, and the actual receipts of payment of both residents' tax and income tax from the past three years, the lady still wanted the [ŏؖ for the previous 2 years as well and gave me an addressed envelope to put the documents in. As I said, I ended up spending a fair amount to get these documents. My own (totally unfounded) theory is that since I don't have to pay re-entry anymore they're trying to get me in other ways....
          Ah so maybe I should get three years of docs so they can't pull that stuff on me lol Submit this year's docs then if he/she says, "Oh we need your previous 2 years" then I peep into my bag and say, "Oh looky here! I just happen to have them!. Whatcha gonna say now B?!" :P

          Congrats on your PR. Envious.

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